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Old 01-26-2014, 01:03 AM   #1
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Exclamation Bedliner not adhering to PSC Bumper

For how many people that run Poison Spyder gear, I'm tempted to believe that perhaps my bedlining shop doesn't know what they're doing. So here's my problem:

I purchased a PSC Brawler Lite bumper in bare steel and whisked it off to a local bed lining shop to have it coated along with my tub. Well, the tub turned out wonderful but the shop was having all kinds of difficulty getting their product to adhere to the bare steel bumper, even after stripping off the storage oil with acetone. I advised them to try sandblasting it, hitting it with a coarser grit sander, and priming it with an etching compound, but they insist that they still can't get good adhesion. Their next course of action you ask? Nest it in a hay bale and set it on fire. They're operating under the assumption that there is some kind of sinister oil diffused into the steel and by setting it on fire, they will draw it out. Now I can understand their frustration, but the only outcome I can see from this is either warping the metal or compromising the steel through their home brew annealing operation.

Do any of you have any thoughts on this? This is sounding less like a bedlining job and more like an exorcism.

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Old 01-26-2014, 01:31 AM   #2
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That's crazy. I have had all my Poison Spyder components powder coated without a problem.

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Old 01-26-2014, 01:32 AM   #3
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I'm defenatley no expert but there is no way I would let my brand new bumper be compromised by "experiment"
Maybe it's time to take it to another shop or even start thinking about other coating options. With the amount of sand blasting that sounds like has been done, there could be a primer that might work and then try the liner? Donno just some late night thoughts.
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Old 01-26-2014, 07:37 AM   #4
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Their next course of action you ask? Nest it in a hay bale and set it on fire..

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Do any of you have any thoughts on this? This is sounding less like a bedlining job and more like an exorcism.
I would be on the look out for a new shop before I let them set my brand new bumper in a bonfire. Just me tho I suppose.

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Old 01-26-2014, 09:50 AM   #5
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Sure, its the whole "Bare metal" aspect. Strip the stuff off, blast the bumper, seal it with a good CRE epoxy then scuff the bumper and line it again.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:52 AM   #6
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You should be able to peel it off rather easily also. In the collision industry we could easily peel up complete bed rails and tailgates.
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Thank you for the input, folks. Krisbman, I will have them check out the epoxy primer for sure.

Though frankly, as I was cleaning up bolt holes throughout the tub; I noticed that the polyurethane bedliner didn't so much adhere to the surface as it did cohere to itself, forming a thick, ridged mold of the body that I could see coming up in large units like you describe in your experience at work. With a piece like a bumper, I'm wondering if I should just pull the plug on this operation and send it to get powder coated.

Hopefully they haven't lit up the funeral pyre yet.
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Thank you for the input, folks. Krisbman, I will have them check out the epoxy primer for sure. Though frankly, as I was cleaning up bolt holes throughout the tub; I noticed that the polyurethane bedliner didn't so much adhere to the surface as it did cohere to itself, forming a thick, ridged mold of the body that I could see coming up in large units like you describe in your experience at work. With a piece like a bumper, I'm wondering if I should just pull the plug on this operation and send it to get powder coated. Hopefully they haven't lit up the funeral pyre yet.
Personally i like powder coating myself. For one, its a helluva lot easier to clean that bed liner. For me thats the major factor since its on the outside of the jeep
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Thank you for the input, folks. Krisbman, I will have them check out the epoxy primer for sure.

Though frankly, as I was cleaning up bolt holes throughout the tub; I noticed that the polyurethane bedliner didn't so much adhere to the surface as it did cohere to itself, forming a thick, ridged mold of the body that I could see coming up in large units like you describe in your experience at work. With a piece like a bumper, I'm wondering if I should just pull the plug on this operation and send it to get powder coated.

Hopefully they haven't lit up the funeral pyre yet.
i had all my stuff bedlined. as you said.. it adheres to itself... so the bedline guys coated it all the way around. not just the front surface. they have to coat it all. or it won't stick.

been through what you're going through. and i love the look.. but if i have anymore trouble - i'm going the same way. i'm just going to powdercoat all of it in a wrinkle finish.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:50 AM   #10
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Thank you for the input, folks. Krisbman, I will have them check out the epoxy primer for sure. Though frankly, as I was cleaning up bolt holes throughout the tub; I noticed that the polyurethane bedliner didn't so much adhere to the surface as it did cohere to itself, forming a thick, ridged mold of the body that I could see coming up in large units like you describe in your experience at work. With a piece like a bumper, I'm wondering if I should just pull the plug on this operation and send it to get powder coated. Hopefully they haven't lit up the funeral pyre yet.
Yeah, i really believe thats part of what makes the stuff as tough as it is. While it may be easy to separate it from the substrate its very difficult to get the product itself to separate.

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