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Old 06-09-2011, 05:43 PM   #1
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best way to upgrade brakes

I'm looking to upgrade my brakes. 2001 sport manual.

Where to start, what brands to use, approx cost, diy or take to mechanic?

Any and all advice appreciated.

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Old 06-09-2011, 09:47 PM   #2
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rear disc brake conversion.. about 600 bucks.. you could get a ford 8.8 for about 6-800 with disc brakes already and a strong axle.. Just saying..

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Old 06-09-2011, 09:55 PM   #3
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how hard would the axle be to replace tho?
and does anything else need to be replaced with it?
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:11 PM   #4
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it's not hard at all. it depends on if you shorten it or not.
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Old 06-10-2011, 05:13 AM   #5
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I'm towing a boat and like to be a little more comfortable with stopping power. I have stock suspension, 3.73 rear, and 31s for tires. No plans to change any of those anytime soon.
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:38 AM   #6
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Don't know that I'd bother with the rear disc conversion if you're just looking for more power; most of the breaking power comes from the front. If you're staying with the stock setup, you might get enough benefit from upgrading to a good set of quality pads, such as black magic brake pads:

BlackMagicBrakes.com

If you think you definitely need more stopping power, one of the most popular upgrades is the Vanco big brake upgrade kit, which you can get from Savvy:

Savvy Offroad

(The Vanco kit from Savvy comes standard with blackmagic pads also, so you're covered there)

Its a bit pricey at $800, but its well worth it if you're looking for more stopping power. You should have no braking issues whatsoever after this upgrade, especially if you're just pushing 31s. My guess is the blackmagic pads alone would give you a significant upgrade, but the Vanco kit is definitely the way to go when you need more power. For reference, I'm running just the blackmagic pads on my 98 with just the stock braking setup and they lock up my 33s quite easily. The Vanco kit may be a future upgrade, but I certainly don't have a need for it anytime soon. Although with towing you may want the extra power; someone with more experience in this area may want to chime in.
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Don't know that I'd bother with the rear disc conversion if you're just looking for more power; most of the breaking power comes from the front. If you're staying with the stock setup, you might get enough benefit from upgrading to a good set of quality pads, such as black magic brake pads:

BlackMagicBrakes.com

If you think you definitely need more stopping power, one of the most popular upgrades is the Vanco big brake upgrade kit, which you can get from Savvy:

Savvy Offroad

(The Vanco kit from Savvy comes standard with blackmagic pads also, so you're covered there)

Its a bit pricey at $800, but its well worth it if you're looking for more stopping power. You should have no braking issues whatsoever after this upgrade, especially if you're just pushing 31s. My guess is the blackmagic pads alone would give you a significant upgrade, but the Vanco kit is definitely the way to go when you need more power. For reference, I'm running just the blackmagic pads on my 98 with just the stock braking setup and they lock up my 33s quite easily. The Vanco kit may be a future upgrade, but I certainly don't have a need for it anytime soon. Although with towing you may want the extra power; someone with more experience in this area may want to chime in.
Super helpful. Now just gotta decide which route to go.

I'm going to review the cost of putting brakes in trailer and may just use black magic pads
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i've never towed anything substantial with rear drum brakes and i'm no physics expert but i just had a thought. it was always my understanding that the rear brakes really only help control the vehicle under above normal braking. i don't know what my point is supposed to be but it just seems like you could loose some of that control if your front brakes are grabbing even stronger before your rears can get a chance to do their job. somebody correct me if i'm wrong.
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I can see what you're saying; I'm not sure that disc braking really provides any more braking power, I think the main benefit is their easier to change. I've towed many heavy loads with my grandfathers F-150 which has rear drums, and it brakes just fine. The rear certainly does brake, but its somewhere around a 60/40 or 70/30 front/rear braking ratio (at least on our Jeeps). Don't quote me on that, but thats what I remember from reading other posts on here and JeepForum.com

In my opinion, if you're towing something that is challenging the braking power and weight of your vehicle, than its time to get a trailer that has its own brakes.
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I can see what you're saying; I'm not sure that disc braking really provides any more braking power, I think the main benefit is their easier to change. I've towed many heavy loads with my grandfathers F-150 which has rear drums, and it brakes just fine. The rear certainly does brake, but its somewhere around a 60/40 or 70/30 front/rear braking ratio (at least on our Jeeps). Don't quote me on that, but thats what I remember from reading other posts on here and JeepForum.com

In my opinion, if you're towing something that is challenging the braking power and weight of your vehicle, than its time to get a trailer that has its own brakes.
I'm definitely looking into adding brakes to trailer.

In all honesty prolly don't need any of it. But its close to max towing capacity. Rather be extra.safe. I'm 25 and paid for jeep and boat myself. Paid cash for boat, at $7K, and rather spend couple hundred on brakes I don't need than money to fix or replace boat. Plus whatever collateral damage might occur. Bought first house last year and I don't have the extra means to not take safe route.
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No, I totally get why you're looking at upgrading your brakes, and in your situation its probably all you need. I just meant for those looking at hauling big loads. I try and spread the word about the blackmagic brakes anywhere I can; they're really awesome, and don't cost much more than regular brakes from autozone/advance.
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Black maic pads and centric rotors. They are a better combo than EBC yellow and centric rotors. This was proven by test conducted on jeep forum. Everyday people were able to lock up 35's. I have them at home to put on myself.

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