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Old 10-08-2013, 11:35 PM   #1
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Billy Jack's Jeeps

My daughter is taking karate classes and the teacher was ending class with some history of karate in the USA. He said there were 3 movies that launched martial arts popularity across the country. They were Kung Fu, Enter the Dragon and Billy Jack. I never heard of Billy Jack before, so I went and bought the collection on Amazon. BTW, he said the next important film was Karate Kid that changed everything to make it more for kids.

So, I watched the Billy Jack movies and found out he drives a Jeep!

In the first movie called "Born Losers" he drives this blue jeep with a tire on the side...


In the next movie "Billy Jack" he drives this red jeep...



So, who knows the history of these jeeps? What year and model?

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Old 10-09-2013, 08:13 PM   #2
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:40 PM   #3
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He was a man that would tear you a knew butt-hole.
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:49 PM   #4
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Thread-jack alert...
Billy Jack's style of martial art was hapkido. The guy who was his double in some of the fight scenes was a guy named Bong Su Han. Bong brought the style to the US from Korea, and my instructor was a student of his. What does this have to do with jeeps? Nothing
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Thread-jack alert...
Billy Jack's style of martial art was hapkido. The guy who was his double in some of the fight scenes was a guy named Bong Su Han. Bong brought the style to the US from Korea, and my instructor was a student of his. What does this have to do with jeeps? Nothing
I don't know but I could use a Bong right about now!
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Old 10-10-2013, 04:19 PM   #6
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Haha! Billy Jack was 'da MAN! Loved his movies when they came out...of course, I was only about 10 yrs old. But the Jeep driving tough buy made an impression! So tough, he didn't even need a roll bar on those Jeeps!!
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Old 10-10-2013, 04:54 PM   #7
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I think I remember the song "One Tin Soldier" being the theme song to that movie.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:42 PM   #8
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I think I remember the song "One Tin Soldier" being the theme song to that movie.
Do you have a guess on who the "one tin soldier" is in that song? I have some interesting answers, but I'll give y'all a stab at it first...

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The lyrics are abstract, so it can be interpreted in many ways...

*One of the best answers I read is the One Tin Soldier is the Dali Lama from Tibet. Tibet was a mountain kingdom with no treasure or resources, but in the 1950s China invaded and slaughtered them. Buddhism is "peaceful" and that's all they had in Tibet.*The Dali Lama went into exile after that. That is probably the closest real world event to the lyrics, but there's a few problems with the fit. The Dali Lama isn't a soldier at all and Buddism doesn't have a "judgement day" which was a main theme in the lyrics. Those things don't fit.

Another common guess is the One Tin Soldier represents "independent thought" so he didn't participate in the fight. However, the lyrics say he didn't ride away until after the bloody morning, so that doesn't fit either, IMO.

The One Tin Soldier could be "YOU", after seeing the fallacy of judgment and consequence of war, you will turn away from it. Tin soldiers are toys. You won't play war anymore. I like this answer.

Another answer is the One Tin Soldier is a vigilante. I like this answer best of all. After the valley people had killed the mountain people, they were obviously guilty of wrongful murder. The bloody morning is that the vigilante administers justice byslaying all the guilty valley people too. After the bloody morning, the One Tin Soldier rides off "alone" because everyone else is dead, and the moral is that war will continue until there is only one left. Like I said, I think is the best answer. In the context of "Billy Jack", it also fits that the One Tin Soldier is a vigilante, because Billy Jack is a vigilante. Since the song came before the movie though, I doubt vigilante was the Hippies' original intent, although they might have meant the part about one left in the end.*
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Old 10-13-2013, 09:04 AM   #10
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Back on topic about the Jeeps.
The first blue Jeep is a CJ5. You can tell by the dip in the metal on the fender above the rear tire. The CJ6 also has this feature, but the Jeep is 2 feet longer wheelbase. This blue one doesn't look extended, so it's a CJ5.

The red Jeep is a CJ3A. You can tell by the unique windshield to the CJ3A. Wipers mounted on the bottom and a middle vent on the bottom that could open.
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Yep! And these were before the rollbar days too....If I could count on it just being me in my Jeep, at all times, I might be tempted to take 'em off.
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Yep! And these were before the rollbar days too....If I could count on it just being me in my Jeep, at all times, I might be tempted to take 'em off.
The rollbars are removable??

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