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Old 03-06-2013, 02:37 PM   #1
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I plan on building this into a Jeep rock crawler, but if I'm installing EVERYTHING on my list then I will be throwing away a TON of parts away that I spent money on and want to avoid doing ANY of that. What would be the best course of action for everything I want done? This includes buying just the body and working on it in a shop from the ground up. Currently I have no Jeep because I don't want to waste my time and money throwing away parts to just replace them.

I'm going overseas to do some work for 6 months and am going to have time to spend studying and researching so any manuals, guides, DIYs to suggest on how to accomplish all this would help me immensely!
  • State/federal laws on all of this
  • Size of 4dr jeep with only front 2 doors
  • If 4 doors, delete the rear 2 doors. If linexing, I should be able to permanently bolt half rear doors in place of the rear doors, angle grind smooth, apply a primer/sealant over the grinding and finish with linex as if doors were never there hopefully
  • Squared off roll bars/cage
  • LineX exterior tannish brown, army green, or go showy with an orange, yellow, or gecko
  • LineX tub, undercarriage, rock sliders, fenders, front/rear bumper, and roll bar black or contrast color to go with a showy orange, yellow, or gecko.
  • Hard top that extends from rear all the way to the front driver windows as a solid piece to hide that there used to be rear doors.
  • Bolted/welded on swing open rear exit door(s) on back of hardtop so that I can remove hard top WITH the door(s). (I believe still requires a 3rd brake light installed along top ridge of hard top for different state laws)
  • Remove spare tire arm off rear and bolt spare tire bracket to swing open rear door
  • 5 point harness front seats. Only 6' so preferablly a little height to it
  • Replace backseat with 2 bench seats, like these but with 3 or 5 point harness. I want to be able to fold the seats up out of way. http://www.raf.mod.uk/raflyneham/raf...Cargo-hold.jpg
  • If installing engine and tranny myself then go with a V8?
  • If v6 what pros/cons on bolting on a turbo?
  • Rock crawler sliders, fenders, skid plate, differential cover, front/rear bumper with front end tow winch, and headlight/taillight armor.
  • 35-40" offroading tires. For local area probably snow optional
  • I want a tall enough suspension lift that I can jokingly say "Keeps the fat chicks out" and I can rock crawl in without bottoming out but short enough I don't lose center of gravity. I don't understand the 2" 4" stuff. Do you only get 4"? Is it like 2 feet but has a 4" part? Confused easily.
  • Would an exterior intake even be suggested with that high of a lift if I were to hit a flood part of a trail?
  • What suggestions on the Driveline?
  • Any brake overhaul kits?

After all of the changes I actually want in a Jeep, I feel like I am wasting my money even buying one, because I just want aftermarket parts then custom work done. However, I want this to be my long term project. I don't want a bunch of guys in a shop putting this together and being their baby. I want to know that when I'm driving it around, it was done by hand and with the expert assistance of Wrangler Forum and personal friends. I've done some welding & torching in the past and a little bit of work on '72 bronco and '94 4Runner.

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Old 03-07-2013, 12:33 PM   #2
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Well looks like most of the work is done for me. There's already a kit that has rear door delete panels. Gotta contact company and look into just buying the panels instead of the like $5,000 conversion kit. I want a 2dr Wrangler the size of a 4dr is my problem.

MOPAR 77070049AB - MOPAR® JK-8 Pickup Conversion Kit for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door - Quadratec

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Old 03-07-2013, 02:01 PM   #3
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Too many questions to ask...

Could quick ones tho:
- which state do you have in mind? Might wanna start researching the legalities before deciding on much of anything. Each state is different and some are drastically different than others.
- do you have a budget in mind?
- what type of offroading are you interested in? You described the body in more than 1/2 of the bullet points so I'm not sure where you are headed with it.

Your project sounds very familiar I started with a Wrangler X model. Got the X 'cause I knew I'd be replacing a bunch 'o stuff in it sooner or later. You mentioned that you don't wanna get stuff that you'd be 'throwing away.' Don't consider it 'throwing away'...instead take the stuff out (my d30/d35 axles when I went to d60/14b for example) and sell them to recoup some of the costs.
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:05 PM   #4
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Have you spent time doing what you think your going to build for. My wants have changed since I first bought my jeep. I am no longer interested in hanging it all out on the side of a mountain. Did it and it was not as much fun as it use to be on my motorcycles and 30 years ago.
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:43 PM   #5
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My father and I used to go offroading in his bronco on hunting and camping trips all the time, so I've spent much time outdoors if that's what you mean. I also went a little too crazy in a stock '94 4runner, blew a shock out of it's bracket and broke radiator when I hit a like 2 foot dip going 20+ and threw the front end up into the air, then got a nice whip when the rear tires nailed it. But I'd push the limit as hard as I could on that thing going up hills and rocks. I did the repairs myself so wasn't too bad. As for the state, I'm currently in Nebraska looking on moving to Colorado. As for budget, this is expected to be a long term project and being a software engineer I've learned time and again if you don't have a requirements document, you can't complete a design document, and without a design document you will rewrite your software 10+ times to get it right.

And as for deciding what I want and changing it, I've been staring at every Wrangler that passes by for years now and picking out in my head what I like. I was dissapointed though that Jeep didn't produce a 2dr Wrangler with the body of a 4dr but as I pointed out in my above reply I found that Mopar sells something for that in a kit. I talked to a Quadratec representative asking if they would be able to sell parts to their kits and was told that Mopar handles that, not them. I'll get back on that later. Been busy all day.

I have a Mustang already that I enjoy for speed and show. Now I want something I can go climbing the side of a mountain just to get to the top so that I can find another mountain to climb. I've gone camping and/or hunting every year since I was born and need to now compete with my Dad's like '67-'72 Bronco he spends his time on. I never remember the year on it. We would go on small dirt paths hunting scraping against almost every tree is why I'd prefer the lining on exterior as well.
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:12 PM   #6
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I called a Mopar sales rep and he said he found the kit online, but couldn't find his parts book to give me information on ordering the inner and outer panels on their own for replacing the 2 rear doors... :\ I said I'll call another time

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