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Old 05-27-2009, 10:33 AM   #1
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Can't decide between a JK & TJ

Hey guys, I'm still new to the whole Jeep thing and I have no idea what year to get. I tried searching but didn't find anything. I love the TJ cause of the 4.0, my old Jeep had one and it was defiantly a strong motor. The JK has the six speed though, and I assume it gets better MPG. I'm getting a Jeep as my everyday driver and I am on the interstate for about an hour every week. I figured yall could help me decide. I'm setting my limit to about $16,000 and I want under 40k miles. I've already narrowed down that I shouldn't get a Rubicon cause of the gear ratio, but other than that I'm in the dark on what to buy.

Whatever I get is going to be a huge turnaround from my two seater sports car that sits a few inches off the ground. I'm just ready to have a car that I can take the top and doors off of. I'm hoping this site will be informative and help me out with buying my new Jeep.



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Old 05-27-2009, 01:42 PM   #2
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Well, if you liked the 4 liter and want to stick with it, get a TJ. In 05 and 06 model years you can get a 6 speed manual. Don't assume that the 6 speed gets you much extra MPG unless you spend a great deal of time doing the double nickle in 6th gear.

The Rubicon's gear ratio is 4:11 due to the larger stock tires. Larger tires and that gear ratio is a good thing except for the fuel economy numbers suffer (just a bit) from (mostly) the weight of the bigger tires. Together, the tires and gearing makes it run like a stock X or sport with 30's and 3.73's.

You will pay more for a Rubi though but unless you need/want the extra capability, don't feel like you need to pay for it. If you are planning on wheeling the jeep and would ever "need" lockers (or a 4:1 transfer case or D44 axles front and back) then it's probably a good investment.

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Old 05-27-2009, 02:07 PM   #3
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Thanks for the input, I'm going to a car auction in the next few weeks and I'm probably going to get a Rubicon if I see one.
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Old 05-27-2009, 02:59 PM   #4
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The Rubi is a great vehicle. For your price range, the '05 or '06 is better if you can find one. I have an '05 se with the 4.0 and it is a great motor in the jeep, and gets better mileage than the inline 4. Goodluck on your search for the right one.
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:01 PM   #5
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im on the fence too.
on one hand the jk can fit 35s easy with a 4in lift and the tj needs at least 4 to run 33s and a bunch of other stuff to defeat drive line vibration.

on the other hand for the price of the jk i can dump a but load of stuff into the tj and have exactly what i want.

im going rubicon because i am lifting it and the factory upgrades will save me money and time. but 06 vs 07 im on the fence. if i get the jk im running 35s but im only going 33s with the tj.
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:03 PM   #6
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06 Rubicon owner here so yes, I'm biased.

My biased opinion is: keep the 1" of tire clearance and give me a TJ.
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:14 PM   #7
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i had a 02 x and loved it. ive been cherokeeing for awhile and am going back to the wrangler. the jk has made some pretty good advances as far as completely redoing the suspension to eliminate some of the tjs short comings. nothing very serious but it is the next generation and its not a step backwards. just different.

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Old 05-27-2009, 03:18 PM   #8
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Nope, not a step backwards. If I could get one with the 4 liter (or other inline engine), I'd be in.
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:28 PM   #9
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yeah i havent driven one with the v6 yet and def will before i make up my mind. i loved the 4.0 but am not going to turn down a good deal with a v6 if its worth it. i can find a 05-06 rubi for about 17000 with low miles an 07 will cost me about 22000. not sure if it would be worth it.
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:53 PM   #10
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I have a 2006 Unlimited and love it. I have 2 kids and am ALWAYS on the highway and it works for us. I drove both the JK's and TJ's before buying mine. I will say the JK's have more of a "car like" ride to me, meaning smoother and more refined. They also are wider (I think 5 inches total) and that gives them a little more room. That said, I wouldn't trade mine for one. I like the look and the more "Jeep" feel of mine and I have plenty of room with the extra room the Unlimited provides. Not to start a war, but my Unlimited feels a lot quieter and more comfortable than the other short wheel base TJ's that I drove, and I drove a lot before buying. I wanted one that the family could fit it, but couldn't get over the look of the 4 door Wranglers. I think they look good when they're lifted and have big wheels/tires, but I knew I wasn't going to have the money to do that right away so I went with the 2006 model. No regrets. I'm sure you'll enjoy either.
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yeah the LJ (guess it stands for Long Jeep) is high on my list to. the extra length would fit my out door lifestyle a bit better and would still look good on 33s and wouldnt need and driveline mod thanks to the extra length. i hate the look of the crew cab. that and my wife has a liberty so i dont need something like that. 2 dogs and camping gear for a week is a nessasary and roof racks are pretty much a no no. cant get the jeep letalone a tall one were i like to go. i can make the tj work but will require some moding and complete loss of the back seat. lj would save my back seat just in case i have a tag along.
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Old 05-30-2009, 03:26 AM   #12
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Well I'm really trying to get my Girlfriends step-moms Jeep. It's an 05 Rubicon that has only been in 4 wheel drive once just to see if it worked. I know I won't find something in that condition so I'm really trying to get it. She wants a convertible and my Z is not, so I'm going to try and sell it so I can buy hers outright.
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find a used z car convertable

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