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Old 01-13-2014, 01:50 PM   #1
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Chrysler CEO Comments On Next Gen Wrangler

Looks like we are atleast 2 years away:

News: Sergio: Wrangler and Alfa

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Marchionne - The next-generation Wrangler is up for approval in the next 10 weeks.

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Old 01-13-2014, 03:39 PM   #3
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At least he admits he doesn't know the market. Says he doesn't know how many Wrangler owners don't take their doors off... I don't know any that haven't!

The news is actually good in the sense that it sounds like they want to mostly leave it alone.
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I bet 99% of owners have never removed the windshield.
How about another 90% that have never removed the doors.

If Jeep went to solid doors, non-folding windshield, and independent suspension on all four corners I would not be surprised or really care.

I have my LJ and I am good to go. My next 'off road' vehicle will be a buggy.
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I bet 99% of owners have never removed the windshield.
How about another 90% that have never removed the doors.

If Jeep went to solid doors, non-folding windshield, and independent suspension on all four corners I would not be surprised or really care.

I have my LJ and I am good to go. My next 'off road' vehicle will be a buggy.

I'm calling BS on your numbers.
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Wrangler Excerpt from full transcript

The full transcript is more interesting than the article. Here's the excerpt specifically addressing the Wrangler. Bolding is mine.

tldr; Redesign updates will improve technology, but keep fundamental capabilities, need to take weight out and improve power train, update the style without changing fundamentals. Biggest issue is making enough. Toledo builders are awesome. Wrangler will be produced there.

ps, today I learned Sergio is Canadian.

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Rob porsenski, wtlo tv in toledo, ohio so you know what i’m going to ask you about. As far as the toledo-built jeeps, the cherokee and the wrangler, talk about expectations for this year and where do things stand as far as redesigning the wrangler?

(Sergio's Answer) Let me deal with the most contentious part of what you said, which is redesigning the wrangler. That’s a term that i’ve forbidden from usage inside the house. I think redesign the wrangler is the riskiest thing you could do. So if you’re talking about substantially upgrading the wrangler to reflect the advancement in technology that we’ve had since its original launch, the answer is yes. If we take away any of the capabilities of the wrangler, i think we’ll kill that product.

i’ve had heated debates, by the way, inside the house about whether we should have a removable door or not have a removable door on the wrangler; whether we should be able to knock down the windshield in the wrangler or not knock it down. I don’t know how many people who own wranglers have ever done that. I know i’ve never done it on mine, but i’ve been told there are a number of people that actually do that to the vehicle so we can’t remove any of those attributes on the wrangler, and yet we’ve got to be able to do two things.

One, bring about a substantial light weighting of the vehicle because we’ve got to take some weight out. And secondly, we’ve got to improve its powertrain capabilities so it can do a variety of things with the rest of the powertrain story that we have within the fiat/chrysler world. And in the process, i think we’ll update design and style, but without touching the fundamental elements of the wrangler. You’ve got to be very, very careful. You can update it, but you can’t change it. If you take the nature of the wrangler out, you’ll kill it.

So that work is well under way. We’re going to make probably the final decision on this within the first quarter of this year and implementation is less than 24 months away. So i feel relatively comfortable that we’ve found sort of the solution to the puzzle.

The biggest issue that we have with the wrangler, as you well know, is capacity limitations. We can’t make enough. I’ve also made it clear that i think the response that we’ve had from the workforce of the wrangler plant has been nothing less than phenomenal. These people have worked around the clock. They’ve done incredible things to try to get us all the wranglers we need.

we’re still looking for ways to increase the output of that plant because one of the commitments we’ve made is never to produce a wrangler outside of toledo. So whatever wranglers are going to be made are going to be made there as long as i’m the ceo. They’ll not be built anywhere else. So i don’t know whether it gives you all the comfort you need on the wrangler.
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I bet 99% of owners have never removed the windshield.
How about another 90% that have never removed the doors.

If Jeep went to solid doors, non-folding windshield, and independent suspension on all four corners I would not be surprised or really care.

I have my LJ and I am good to go. My next 'off road' vehicle will be a buggy.
I would agree regarding the windshield but the doors I would say it is 50/50. That number may even be bigger if we talk about those that take the doors off and put on half doors or other options. When summer hits doors come off like leave drop in the Fall.
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Soooooo the government (we the tax payer) give Chrysler 4 billion dollars to bail them out........and they (Chrysler) then sell out to Fiat.....

This is good stuff!
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Soooooo the government (we the tax payer) give Chrysler 4 billion dollars to bail them out........and they (Chrysler) then sell out to Fiat.....

This is good stuff!
You are correct....and this has kept tens of thousands of Americans employed....
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You are correct....and this has kept tens of thousands of Americans employed....
And it sounds like Sergio knows what makes the Wrangler the Wrangler and is aware of it's cult status.

I'm not worried that the sky is falling like some of the folks in here do.

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Soooooo the government (we the tax payer) give Chrysler 4 billion dollars to bail them out........and they (Chrysler) then sell out to Fiat.....

This is good stuff!
Don't blaim Chrysler, yell at the guy with the big ears in DC, O whats his name
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Don't blaim Chrysler, yell at the guy with the big ears in DC, O whats his name
Oh God, there are so many things I'd love to yell at him for.....


I hope they don't screw up the new wrangler. Quite frankly, I doubt they will. I believe the biggest threat to the wrangler is stagnation, just keeping it completely unchanged and archaic. Improved drivetrains and factory clearance would be great, but I doubt they will rock the boat too much. Let's get some 35s on the rubicons stock, maybe an option to install 4.56s....
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I admit I haven't taken the doors off yet, but I have two young children and it's apparently illegal in PA anyway.
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Auto bailouts were well underway when Bush was still in office. Obama finished what was already started.
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I admit I haven't taken the doors off yet, but I have two young children and it's apparently illegal in PA anyway.
I'll have to remind the 1000 people a summer I see riding with no doors... If its illegal, the law is completely ignored by cops and Jeep owners alike.
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I admit I haven't taken the doors off yet, but I have two young children and it's apparently illegal in PA anyway.
You can still ride carriage style.
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I'll have to remind the 1000 people a summer I see riding with no doors... If its illegal, the law is completely ignored by cops and Jeep owners alike.
I think it's generally ignored. If I wanted to do it I would, just saying that technically, as written, it's a gray area at best and if they want to be pricks they can cite you for it.
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Let's see...Chrysler paid back the bailout loan with interest. The taxpayers did not "give" them anything.

I suspect an overwhelming majority of Wrangler owners never remove their doors. Up until we bought our 2013 Sahara last year I never noticed any Wrangler on the streets with the doors off. Now I've seen a few this past year but they are quite rare. We will be one of those who never takes them off.
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I doubt you will ever see a Wrangler that has color match fenders and top with its doors off.

You are truly missing a big part of the Wrangler experience.
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I will probably due it this summer, my only real concern is safety. And getting caught in a down pour, lol. Around here, you never know which way it's going to turn.
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I will probably due it this summer, my only real concern is safety. And getting caught in a down pour, lol. Around here, you never know which way it's going to turn.
The doors are not a safety issue. Right on the header of my soft top is a warning label. It clearly states that the top and doors are for protection from the elements only. Trust me no one will fall out.

As far a the rain, a little bit of water isn't going to hurt you. There are drain plugs in the floor.
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I doubt you will ever see a Wrangler that has color match fenders and top with its doors off.

You are truly missing a big part of the Wrangler experience.
I cant imagine not being able to take the doors off even with color matched fenders. The saddest day of the year is when I realize the doors have to go back on for a few months and the second is when the hard top goes on for the winter.
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I doubt you will ever see a Wrangler that has color match fenders and top with its doors off.

You are truly missing a big part of the Wrangler experience.
For one, it's my wife's DD. She prefers (as I would) driving to and from work in 95*F heat in the summer (and probably close to the same humidity level) here in the Midwest with nice, cool A/C on and not being baked by the hot sun.

Anyway, it is rare around here whenever I see any Jeep driving around with its doors off, painted or not.
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I hate button up day. Then the count down to a blizzard starts. If I don't get anything by the end of February, the count down to top and doors off begins.
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If they turn it into an FJ cruiser they will loose many people that buy jeeps simply because they are the only thing left that comes from the factory this way. I don't suspect them making too many cosmetic changes that takes the uniqueness away
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I doubt you will ever see a Wrangler that has color match fenders and top with its doors off. You are truly missing a big part of the Wrangler experience.
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Did any of you guys actually read what Sergio said?




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The doors are not a safety issue. Right on the header of my soft top is a warning label. It clearly states that the top and doors are for protection from the elements only. Trust me no one will fall out.

As far a the rain, a little bit of water isn't going to hurt you. There are drain plugs in the floor.
I am not not trusting anyone else to my children's safety thank you anyway. As I said, I will do it around town some time, but not for long trips or on the highway. I've see too many things get picked up and flung into a vehicle, there is no way it's not safety issue at speed, even if someone doesn't fall out.

I don't mind getting wet, but there is nothing inherently "waterproof" in all the fancy electronics in my Jeep, they will short out and corrode like any other metal, drain plugs aside.

I get the whole "dune buggy" appeal, but it's not the primary reason I bought a Wrangler.
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I doubt you will ever see a Wrangler that has color match fenders and top with its doors off.

You are truly missing a big part of the Wrangler experience.
Dudes like you are going to kill the Jeep spirit. Making assumptions about a large group of people you are dismissing. You should be embracing them instead.



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I doubt you will ever see a Wrangler that has color match fenders and top with its doors off. You are truly missing a big part of the Wrangler experience.
I have both. I also have a soft top and go without doors with the top down the vast majority of the spring though the fall....

The removable doors and convertible options were one of the biggest reasons I had for getting a wrangler. I realize I'm not like everyone else, but I'd sure hate to see them go away.

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