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Old 06-19-2011, 05:17 AM   #1
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Diesel jeeps

I'm sure this has been asked before but can any one tell me why chrysler won't offer us a diesel jeep in the U.S. Like they do in Europe ? I was just reading the specs of a diesel jeep and would love to have one but can't have one

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Old 06-19-2011, 05:20 AM   #2
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I have one & I love it! I think its to do with the emissions. I get taxed quite heavily due to the high emissions they emit! You can thank the tree huggers for that!

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So one can be bought in the states is it a special order to get one ? The reason I ask is I'm looking to buy a new jeep and want one
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So one can be bought in the states is it a special order to get one ? The reason I ask is I'm looking to buy a new jeep and want one
Sorry to have mislead you, I'm from the UK where the diesel option is available. I believe they are not available in the US due to the emissions.
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that sucks land of the free bs we are getting f@&$ ed
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Old 06-21-2011, 06:03 PM   #6
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From 1961 to 1965 a factory 4 cylinder Perkins diesel option was available. It was discontinued for lack of interest
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With all the discussion on this forum, and who knows how many on other forums, I can't imagine that Chrysler doesn't hear us. As for the emissions (on my soap box now), why is it that the rest of the world can have diesels but us tree hugging, stupid ar$$ americans think we're doing the environment a disservice by not allowing diesels. I am not a financial nor environmental expert but from a carbon footprint and financial standpoint, I would think the diesel actually has less footprint.

Give me the diesel sound in my jeep and I would love it! I would be waiting at the dealership when they announced they were available!!!
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Well then what about all the VW's?
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okay what i dont get is, the US govt wont let us have diesel jeeps cause they leave off to many emissions (which we all know its cause they will lose money on taxing gas cause we'll all get 30 mpg), but what about all the Semi trucks (18 wheelers) on the raod in the US, we have more semis on the roads then any other country, but its okay to have them on the road. Im pretty sure that a few thousand ppl with jeeps that run on diesel will send the world to complete destruction, and even if it does, ill go down smiling cause im getting 30mpg in my jeep.
sorry about the rant, just my opinion.

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Sorry to have mislead you, I'm from the UK where the diesel option is available. I believe they are not available in the US due to the emissions.
do they have muddy roads in the UK!? cause i might want to move there. Diesel jeeps and soccer all year round! my kind of livin!
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okay what i dont get is, the US govt wont let us have diesel jeeps cause they leave off to many emissions (which we all know its cause they will lose money on taxing gas cause we'll all get 30 mpg), but what about all the Semi trucks (18 wheelers) on the raod in the US, we have more semis on the roads then any other country, but its okay to have them on the road. Im pretty sure that a few thousand ppl with jeeps that run on diesel will send the world to complete destruction, and even if it does, ill go down smiling cause im getting 30mpg in my jeep.
sorry about the rant, just my opinion.

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it's definetly NOT because of emission, the diesel in Europe has been much cleaner for about 20 years and actually the diesel there is way cleaner than what we have here.
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U can get a diesel in any of the big three brand of pickup trucks if you really need a diesel. Almost all 2010 and later onroad diesels have had to go to urea injection to meet the 2010 federal emissions guidelines. 2013 will bring even stricter guidelines. I dought if the wrangler diesels were ever converted to use the urea treatment. Just like Cat, Chyrsler probably doesn't want to mess with the Feds anymore, and feel it's worth the expense just to sell a few wranglers. U can still get a new cat engine, the c15 block as international is putting their own emissions on them and selling them under the maxforce name, as a international brand engine. All this Crap started while bill was in the white house, and not even Monicas attention could keep him from passing all kinds of future federal mandeted emissions standards. Or we would probably have the diesel wrangler here now. Bill didn't inhale, and Hillary don't swallow!
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U can get a diesel in any of the big three brand of pickup trucks if you really need a diesel. Almost all 2010 and later onroad diesels have had to go to urea injection to meet the 2010 federal emissions guidelines. 2013 will bring even stricter guidelines. I dought if the wrangler diesels were ever converted to use the urea treatment. Just like Cat, Chyrsler probably doesn't want to mess with the Feds anymore, and feel it's worth the expense just to sell a few wranglers. U can still get a new cat engine, the c15 block as international is putting their own emissions on them and selling them under the maxforce name, as a international brand engine. All this Crap started while bill was in the white house, and not even Monicas attention could keep him from passing all kinds of future federal mandeted emissions standards. Or we would probably have the diesel wrangler here now. Bill didn't inhale, and Hillary don't swallow!
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do they have muddy roads in the UK!? cause i might want to move there. Diesel jeeps and soccer all year round! my kind of livin!
Yep, we have muddy trails too. I'm not a soccer fan myself, I would rather watch a game of baseball. However, we are heavily taxed just to breath in the UK, I would much rather live across the pond in the good old USA. I'd move to California tomorrow if it was an option.
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well seeing as how gm and fiat now share the ownership of the company that makes the diesel engines rumor has it that an American affordable priced diesel jeep might not be to far out of the question. They sure have the means to do it now but questions is will the hippies let us burn something other than veggy oil in them?
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Yep, we have muddy trails too. I'm not a soccer fan myself, I would rather watch a game of baseball. However, we are heavily taxed just to breath in the UK, I would much rather live across the pond in the good old USA. I'd move to California tomorrow if it was an option.

cousin, if you are looking to move to the US to avoid taxes, Cali is the absolute last place you want to move to.
Illinois is second to last.

You want nice weather, beaches, and low taxes? Texas or Florida.

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cousin, if you are looking to move to the US to avoid taxes, Cali is the absolute last place you want to move to.
Illinois is second to last.

You want nice weather, beaches, and low taxes? Texas or Florida.

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You might want to do a little research on how much the taxes actually are in Texas before you recommend it as a low tax state. It's true they have no state income tax but they definately make up for it in other ways. I'm pretty sure it beats California and Illinois though.

I could live in Texas if I wished as I own a place there. I choose to live elsewhere as the taxes are much lower even with a state income tax. Add in the fact that I have hundreds of thousands of acres of public land to roam around in as compared to having to have an owners permission to step off the road right-of-way in Texas.

As to the OP about diesel engines in Jeeps: I don't doubt that when the addition to the sticker price for the diesel is known it will kill a lot of the interest in having one. Additionally you will have to see a siginificent increase in fuel mileage just to offset the higher cost of diesel compared to gasoline and don't forget the cost of the urea either. I drive a diesel truck for it's towing ability and improved fuel economy over a gas rig that will do the same amount of work. Take away that need and I wouldn't even think about owning a diesel. There are gas powered trucks that wiill equal or exceed the diesel running empty available now. When factoring in the added purchase price and higher fuel cost there is no way the diesel will break even in total cost unless driven for many, many years.
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You might want to do a little research on how much the taxes actually are in Texas before you recommend it as a low tax state. It's true they have no state income tax but they definately make up for it in other ways. I'm pretty sure it beats California and Illinois though

key parts of my assessment to go with those low taxes were nice weather and beaches. Couple Texas' beaches, tax rates, low COL, and their low low gas prices and you got a winner winner chicken dinner in my book.

sorry for the carry on with the diesel talk

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