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Old 08-20-2012, 04:01 PM   #1
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Does anything else even compare?

Are there any other 4x4's that can really compete with the jeep? I don't mean like a 4x4 truck, but something similar to the jeep. Something small, maneuverable, and capable. I know the CJs had the old FJ40s and 1st gen. Broncos and maybe a land rover here or there, but is there anything that still puts up a fight? The FJ is now a bloated pig, the Bronco is dead, and Land Rover only makes mall crawlers. I guess there's the samurai, but other than that what is there? Not that I'd rather something else, just can't think of what else still puts up a fight.

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Old 08-20-2012, 10:01 PM   #2
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Mazda 3 wagon?

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Yota 4 runner, comes to mind. I know there are a few others.
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Seriously though, I can't think of anything even in the ballpark since the S10 Blazer 2 door, ZR2 was dropped back in '04 or '05.
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Yota 4 runner, comes to mind. I know there are a few others.
Ya, maybe that.
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:07 PM   #6
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I'd like to see the Bronco make a comeback. Always liked those older ones.

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Old 08-20-2012, 10:19 PM   #7
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So all the Jeeps top competitors are either dead (Bronco, h1 hummer) or washed up (FJ, Land Rover). I don't know if I should be proud that Jeep outlasted all the others or sad that it's the last of its kind..
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I'd like to see the Bronco make a comeback. Always liked those older ones.
Saw that concept a while ago. Sure wish they would bring it into production. Especially if the doors/top were removable.
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Old 08-21-2012, 05:22 AM   #9
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x2, i saw that a couple years ago and had high hopes they would come out with it...
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:00 AM   #10
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for sure.... the bronco was awesome. IMO the loss of a SFA killed this class
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:32 AM   #11
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If the Bronco comes back, it will likely be so expensive and upscale that I, and 99% of the rest of the poulation, will probably never be able to afford one, so it won't concern or benefit me in any way. That's the auto industry nowadays though. We are going back 100 years where all cars will eventually be toys for the wealthy few.

(Funny that way, since old time car makers that sold affordable vehicles based on mass production...Model T, VW Beetle, etc...ended up making more money and dominating or outright owning the previous companies that only made hand-built luxury models.)
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IMHO it depends. For my type of off-roading my 2004 Toyota 4Runner was great. It was a mountain goat for most things while bone stock but I don't lift skyhigh anyway. I am more of an overland explorer/camper/trail rider. I like the JK's electric goodies more than others seem to. The JKU now has some of the pro's that the 4Runner/FJ and Rover guys have spoke highly of. The 4Runner and new FJ and some others are very capable and used all over the world. Keep in mind our government keeps some great 4x4's from ever happening. Just look at what CAFE is doing to us. Even the JK could be different if it wasn't for the gubment. The LR Defender can't be imported to the US and I think it was part of the demise of the old school real FJ. However the JK still has many advantages over the others.
The electric goodies can be turned off for those that prefer it, huge aftermarket support, removable top, easy to add or purchase with lockers for when the electronic wizbang doohickies just arent going to cut it, etc...
A Jeep can always be an SUV but the others can never be Jeep.
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Not too many options in the states...I think the Defenders have gone completely foreign now. I hope I'm wrong as I've always been a fan of them. You can still buy them new in either a 90 or 110 wheelbase for around 22,000 (pounds).
The other little hidden jewel is the Land Cruiser 70 Series Pickups. SFA,RCVs, Pretty bad little trucks. But again, not available in the states.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:30 AM   #14
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My ex had a 76 bronco built for wheeling...that thing broke down every time we took it on a trail...def doesn't compare to a jeep
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Sounds like he didn't build it right. I've seen several badass Broncos that could keep up with any Jeep. Even a Jeep that isn't built right could be a pos that breaks down all the time. It's all in how you take care of it.
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There is the Mercedes G55, it comes well equipped for offroading.. Lockers front/rear and all. Yes it's super expensive but it's an option for the wealthy.
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The most capable off-road vehicle I have ever driven is any rental car. Those things will go anywhere...
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[QUOTE=BakedInMN;2708054]The most capable off-road vehicle I have
ever driven is any rental car. Those things will go anywhere...[/QUOTE
Lol! Agreed!
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ever driven is any rental car. Those things will go anywhere...
Lol! Agreed!
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Im going to have to give a ton of credit to the Defenders, particularly the 90 series. A good buddy wheels one, and wheels it hard. That thing is a beast
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The most capable off-road vehicle I have ever driven is any rental car. Those things will go anywhere...
Indeed they will!
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Are there any other 4x4's that can really compete with the jeep?
No.
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The most capable off-road vehicle I have ever driven is any rental car. Those things will go anywhere...
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I would maybe add an International Scout to the list. While I have not been in one since the 70's, I remember it being very capable offroad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...arvester_Scout
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'69-'72 K5 blazer my dad had one when I was young and that was what I was looking for when I decided to buy my Jeep.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:58 AM   #26
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The most capable off-road vehicle I have ever driven is any rental car. Those things will go anywhere...
just need a fast enough moving start

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