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Old 05-16-2008, 02:37 PM   #1
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Driving without doors safe?

O.K. i am 17 and my dad says that it is not safe to drive my jeep doorless. I was wondering what other people had to say about that.

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Old 05-16-2008, 02:40 PM   #2
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its ok just buckle up
and it would be good to have your mirrors

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My wife refuses to let my 17 yo drive with no doors She refers to my Jeep as the Deathtrap. However I still drive when I can with no doors/top. Thats the way jeeps were originally built and IMO the way to fully appreciate your Jeep
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:47 PM   #4
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I would get some mirrors. he is more worried about if i got t-boned. I honestly don't think those half doors would help that much
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I don't think my full doors provide much protection either. And I definitely relocate my mirrors cause prevention of an accident is a big concern. Of course t-bones are not gonna be the best scenario for a jeep.
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the jeeps are crash tested without the doors on so those rating are without doors, and they are still ok ratings for side impact, its clearly safe if they let you do it and it gets like 3/5 on a crash test, of course its not as safe as them on, but its not UNSAFE
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ha, and definately don't put your foot out and rest it on the rocker panal.

take em off and leave em off.
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Yes they are safe. Just wear your belt and keep your hands and feet inside the ride until it comes to a complete stop.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:24 PM   #9
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That justification for a 4" lift, gets the door opening out and above most cars. Most states also require that you have a mirror on the drivers side, some use a kit that goes in the upper hinge, some get mirror movers that put the mirror on the windshield brackets. As for the half doors providing protection, some I suppose, but with the full frame under there and the strength of the lower body down there it might help if say a motorcycle T boned you or an edsel...
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Your doors arent re enforced with steels bars so what the diff?
That 1/16" of metal isnt going to make a difference if you get hit, but I spose it might help deflect debris and mud.
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That justification for a 4" lift, gets the door opening out and above most cars. Most states also require that you have a mirror on the drivers side, some use a kit that goes in the upper hinge, some get mirror movers that put the mirror on the windshield brackets. As for the half doors providing protection, some I suppose, but with the full frame under there and the strength of the lower body down there it might help if say a motorcycle T boned you or an edsel...
Exactly, about the mirrors. I got a set off Ebay for 20 bucks
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:15 PM   #12
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All you need to make it a little more safe is a set of Rocker guards!! Tell dad this, it will help strengthen up the side of the jeep!!
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:34 PM   #13
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I think the Safari type doors are kinda cool. They still give you the open feeling but you still have something to lean against or rest your arm on.
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As was already said, the doors on a Jeep only offer protection from rain/wind not collisions. In a Tbone, you need to be more worried about the jeep rolling over than anything else. Your was designed for the doors to be pulled. The only thing you can remove that will effect its crash stability is if you drop the windshield (which is offroad use only) or remove the roll bar. Leave the windshield alone, keep the roll bar in, and enjoy riding doorless.

Make sure you either make some jeep mirrors and stick them in the hinge holes, or buy some mirror movers though Even if your state doesn't require them, its much much safer with them on... I have driven both ways, and even with a good headcheck, I have almost swiped someone on the highway without mirrors
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1)As a "Dad" myself, I understand the concern, but the seatbelts are a safe "must."
2)SOME states have side-mirror laws as has already been stated here. If you have one, it helps, regardless. Here's a reliable source, where I bought mine: http://www.jeepit.com/bracket_gallery_2.htm
3)Going "doorless" is a neat thing, (especially accompanied with going
"topless" as well. Just act responsibly. Going "fast" is not cool.....driving slow with the music blasting, through town....now THAT'S "cool!"
4) For "off roading" trails, NOT having the doors on helps protect some of the vehicles parts from unnecessary damage. You'll appreciate having the doors back on, and useable, in the winter.

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Old 05-18-2008, 09:09 AM   #17
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Taking the doors off is what a Jeep is all about! Driving responsibly is the key! I agree with the others -the doors will do nothing in a side impact. Put some Nerf bars or others on the side. I'm not sure why anyone would buy a convertible vehicle and have A/C- it defeats the entire concept. I'm not sure how others feel on this? Prove to your Dad that you are responsible and show him these comments! Good Luck and get the mirror relocation brackets.
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Taking the doors off is what a Jeep is all about! Driving responsibly is the key! I agree with the others -the doors will do nothing in a side impact. Put some Nerf bars or others on the side. I'm not sure why anyone would buy a convertible vehicle and have A/C- it defeats the entire concept. I'm not sure how others feel on this? Prove to your Dad that you are responsible and show him these comments! Good Luck and get the mirror relocation brackets.
My jeep has AC and I use it when I have my 1 year old in my jeep. Don't get me wrong, not a rainy day and my top is down, but for my lil one it's just too much wind now. That's why I got AC
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I didn't read what everyone else posted but I'll throw my 2 cents out there.

If you're 17 then your dad knows what is safe and what isn't safe. It doesn't matter what a bunch of people on the internet say, it's what your dad says. Leave them on and enjoy the fact that your dad is cool enough to let you drive a Jeep in the first place. I know when I was 17 my parents wouldn't let me near a Jeep.
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I didn't read what everyone else posted but I'll throw my 2 cents out there.

If you're 17 then your dad knows what is safe and what isn't safe. It doesn't matter what a bunch of people on the internet say, it's what your dad says. Leave them on and enjoy the fact that your dad is cool enough to let you drive a Jeep in the first place. I know when I was 17 my parents wouldn't let me near a Jeep.
I agree with Scout, NOW GO TO YOUR ROOM.
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I agree with Scout, NOW GO TO YOUR ROOM.
Ha!

I hope it didn't sound like I was lecturing him because I wasn't.
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if your old enough to control a potentially lethal machine then your old enough to make your own decisions about things like this.
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if your old enough to control a potentially lethal machine then your old enough to make your own decisions about things like this.
Not totally correct.

If your father owns (assumptive) the "potentially lethal machine" then he can say how it's operated.
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Did he say his dad owned it? If so then yeah ok fair enough he makes the rules if its his, otherwise you make much more important decisions on the road for yourself than this one.
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I didn't read what everyone else posted but I'll throw my 2 cents out there.

If you're 17 then your dad knows what is safe and what isn't safe. It doesn't matter what a bunch of people on the internet say, it's what your dad says. Leave them on and enjoy the fact that your dad is cool enough to let you drive a Jeep in the first place. I know when I was 17 my parents wouldn't let me near a Jeep.
Glad you said it! If you're living under his roof do what he says. Its not right that you would turn to a bunch of people you don't know to go against his wishes. If my son pulled the doors off after i told him not to, I'd take the jeep away for a while. Smeg grow up man, he's not even an legal adult.
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Glad you said it! If you're living under his roof do what he says. Its not right that you would turn to a bunch of people you don't know to go against his wishes. If my son pulled the doors off after i told him not to, I'd take the jeep away for a while. Smeg grow up man, he's not even an legal adult.
I agree with 4Point NOW GO TO YOUR ROOM.
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Glad you said it! If you're living under his roof do what he says. Its not right that you would turn to a bunch of people you don't know to go against his wishes. If my son pulled the doors off after i told him not to, I'd take the jeep away for a while. Smeg grow up man, he's not even an legal adult.
Unless you're independently wealthy and can support yourself, listen to your father or he'll throw your ass out of the house.

I also suggest buying some side armor to mitigate your side impact risk. RRC has a nice setup that bolts directly to the frame. At least if you get T-boned it should help transfer some of the energy.
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Buncha hippocrites, like you all listened to your Dad when you were that age
Quit patronising him
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Buncha hippocrites, like you all listened to your Dad when you were that age
Quit patronising him
I bought my first Jeep when I was 22....My parents where not concerned if I drove with the doors off or on. Their big thing was NO drinking and driving. No hypocrite here... I listened to my father or I got my ass handed to me. My son will follow the same tradition.

Smeg, why don't you try to offer positive contributions to site for a change? Why all the negativity?
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sorry i forgot where i was for a moment i take my comments back
young man listen to your father and kiss and hug hm every day
i love you and dont want you to get hurt so drive with the doors on please

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