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Old 08-04-2014, 11:45 AM   #1
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Emergency/Escape Tool

Just wondrrig if anyone keeps a tool handy to cut a seatbelt or smash a window if needed?

Looking at the "Lifehammer" and the "Resqme" tools, but wanted to see if anyone had experience with them.

Reviews for the cutters on both tools seem to suck....so I'd be adding a set of trauma shears.

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Old 08-04-2014, 03:08 PM   #2
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I always have a pocket knife to cut the seat belt. I always have a glock to handle all my other needs.

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Old 08-04-2014, 04:15 PM   #3
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The best 'rescue hammer' is sold at a hardware store. It is a ball-peen hammer and the round end is the perfect glass breaking tool. I used one a lot.

With over two decades in traffic collision experience as a first responder, I have only seen a handful of cases [<10] where someone could not free themselves using a seat belt button and those people burned to death before they could ever help themselves.

It's not just buying something for a perceived need, but having it in a fixed unmoveable mount is critical as well. For such a device, it should be mounted where anyone in the front seat area can access it, where it will not slide around or get lost in a multiple roll over accident, it cannot accidentally come loose in a head on collision, but must be easily removed by a shaken up victim in an incident. Seeing that the Wrangler dash real estate is limited and knowing that the roof would crumple in a roll over, where would you install it?
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A ballpeen would certainly do the trick and is obviously a better choice for a 1st responder....but its size and weight would strike me (no pun intended) as a liability in a collision. For emergency only use, I think something smaller and lighter would be more appropriate.

The resqme is designed to be carried on a keychain, so its always going to be there....the life hammer is larger and would have to be mounted...but it comes with a sturdy (by all accounts) mounting bracket complete with screwholes.

A couple of mounting options jump at me.
1) Inside the door
2) on soundbar, close to the dome lights
3) Next to the transmisson

Of the three, I think #3 seems like the most logical choice
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A ballpeen would certainly do the trick and is obviously a better choice for a 1st responder....but its size and weight would strike me (no pun intended) as a liability in a collision. For emergency only use, I think something smaller and lighter would be more appropriate.

The resqme is designed to be carried on a keychain, so its always going to be there....the life hammer is larger and would have to be mounted...but it comes with a sturdy (by all accounts) mounting bracket complete with screwholes.

A couple of mounting options jump at me.
1) Inside the door
2) on soundbar, close to the dome lights
3) Next to the transmisson

Of the three, I think #3 seems like the most logical choice

1. Inside whose door? If you mount it on your door, how does a passenger access it if you are unconscious? If you drive alone, what happens if another vehicle t-bones you in the drivers door and the tool is destroyed, gets lost, or can't be removed?

2. Rollover mitigates that option and even without a roll over collision, arms get burned and the humerus, radius, and ulna bones can be broken by the airbag and other factors. Reaching up and behind can be daunting.

3. This is the most logical place. Still, not a lot of space to mount it.

I don't like tools that hang from key chains. It seems like a good idea until it is examined. The GM ignition lock fiasco is one reason, others include that the ignition in the steering column often becomes jammed in collisions and can't be turned off and the key cannot be removed. Trying to remove a tool from a split key ring or other relatively secured key ring is often difficult during non stress times. In the moments after an incident, one is not going to have the fine motor skills, the time, or the patience to get the tool off the key ring.
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:50 PM   #6
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I did a quick measurement of the panel next to the transmission shift. Roughly 10" x 5"

According to Lifehammer's website, the tool is slightly smaller than 8"x3"

Mounted up something like this:

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Old 08-04-2014, 06:55 PM   #7
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I have a first responder knife with seat belt cutter and glass break built in. I keep it above my head on the rollbar so I have access to it for any need.
Also makes sure I always have a knife with me for any reason.
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One more option is the Crkt ExiTool

Don't carry any of them myself as I always have a knife on me and my knife has the window breaker tip on the end anyway. Plus like stated above, I've seen very few times a need for a dedicated seat belt cutter.
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:02 AM   #9
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A Spring loaded center punch will take out a window in a heart beat. The smaller the point striking the window the better. Car burglars used to throw pieces of spark plug porcelain at side windows to break in with minimal noise. Worked like a charm although you wouldn't think so. Seat belt cutters are worthless in my opinion. Many years a traffic cop and never once did I see anybody use one. A good sharp knife worked every time if we couldn't get to the belt button.
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Old 08-15-2014, 09:11 PM   #10
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Ordered one...just got it mounted. Hope I don't ever have to use it.

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Old 08-15-2014, 09:13 PM   #11
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I have the resq me tool in all my cars.
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Old 08-15-2014, 09:27 PM   #12
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My wife and I always have a pocket knife on our person. There is a automatic center punch in the center console.
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:06 AM   #13
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Resq me is very compact. Downfall it you will break the window but not be able to clear or swipe the glass away like a bigger tool would
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Old 08-16-2014, 12:44 PM   #14
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Another reason for half doors and vinyl windows. Just unzip them or at worst, quick slit with a knife.
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:08 PM   #15
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I carry a knife on me at all times with a seatbelt cutter and windowbreaker. Im an EMT and also just got a leatherman raptor which a folding trauma sheers with a seatbelt cutter and window breaker and ring cutter. My leatherman is the real deal
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:40 PM   #16
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I've got a Jeep survival tool in my LJ and generally keep a pocketknife on me as well.
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Old 08-28-2014, 09:40 PM   #17
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Resq me is very compact. Downfall it you will break the window but not be able to clear or swipe the glass away like a bigger tool would
Just a tip,

That isn't the the ideal to have that. Sure if you come upon an accident it is readily available to you. But if you are the one in the accident them that is not going to be there when you need it and will be somewhere unknown as it flew around your interior upon impact
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Old 08-28-2014, 10:02 PM   #18
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Here are 2 of the best.
A cutter & a spring punch.
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:11 PM   #19
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I've been in the fire service for over 20 years and I have yet to use one of the rescue me type tools and we run MVA's every single day. I agree with a post above somewhere that states your best tools are found at the hardware store. Don't get me wrong, we have some very expensive specialized equipment, but for seatbelts we just use trauma shears or a pocket knife. The other rescue me tools always seem to bind up or break during training. Pretty gimmicky. Just my .02
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:58 PM   #20
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If you've done the "maglite mod" (maglite attached to your driver's seat frame) you could replace its tail cap with a "Bust a Cap" for breaking glass.

It's probably more useful for breaking other jeeps' glass than your own though. It's hard to get the maglite out of there without opening your door, and if you need to bust your own driver's door glass, you probably can't open it to get to the maglite.
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A Spring loaded center punch will take out a window in a heart beat. The smaller the point striking the window the better. Car burglars used to throw pieces of spark plug porcelain at side windows to break in with minimal noise. Worked like a charm although you wouldn't think so. Seat belt cutters are worthless in my opinion. Many years a traffic cop and never once did I see anybody use one. A good sharp knife worked every time if we couldn't get to the belt button.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:57 PM   #22
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Hmm... I hadn't actually been worrying about that too much for the Jeep.
However, I have been thinking that I'll pick up one of those tools for the Bimmer next time I see one - those cars actually have an electronic error state that makes it impossible to open any doors or windows manually from inside or outside the car. Hopefully Jeep is free of that sort of nonsense.

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