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Old 05-21-2013, 11:22 AM   #1
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Engo winch failure, suggestions

While re-spooling my Engo 9k today in the yard, it crapped out. I had pulled the line out with the clutch disengaged, I reengaged the clutch and put tension on the line, and attempted to start to wind the line in. The motor simply turned a very small amount and clunked like it was stuck. I checked the clutch again, but it was fine. I then tried to reverse the line and it worked for a few moments then stopped again. Both directions are now locked up. I checked electrical connections at the battery and visually inside the solenoid box, along with all other connection points and grounds. I will be using a volt meter to attempt to check the solenoids once I find a wiring diagram.

Anyone have this experience yet. I think I have had the engo almost 2 years now, and used it a lot. I used it this weekend as well and it worked fine.

Line is currently unspooled and no way to get it back in. Should I remove the line, or remove the whole winch.

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Can you take to cover off to take a look at the gears?

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Old 05-21-2013, 11:29 AM   #3
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Can you take to cover off to take a look at the gears?
x2. Sounds like you got some dried mud or small stones in the gears. Probably the 1st reduction set closest to the motor, since it didn't explode...
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:33 AM   #4
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I can, I will need to rip it off and was trying to make sure it wasn't electrical before I tore into it. I wasn't in any mud or anything yesteryday and it has been covered other than when I used it, but I supposed it's somehow possible for something to get inside.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:54 AM   #5
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Already had an email back from engo while I was eating lunch quick. "Joel" seems very helpful and suggested a few things to test, to see if it is the brake or something else mechanical.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:03 PM   #6
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"When you say both directions are locked up, does it sound like the motor is trying to work, but physically can’t? Or is it just clicking the solenoids and the motor isn’t doing anything? Try putting it in free-spool and then power the winch out. Only power it for a fraction of a second though. I want to make sure it’s not the brake. If there is something wrong with the brake, the winch will try to spool very fast. If it’s working properly with the clutch disengaged then the winch should only turn by friction or not at all. Give me a call or send me your number and we will figure it out. If it’s mechanical and covered under warranty, I will also need to get the serial number of the winch."


I tested this is the winch did spin quickly w/ the clutch disengaged.

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Old 05-21-2013, 12:10 PM   #7
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:17 PM   #8
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Should have bought a Warn.
They are sending me a new drum brake assembly. While googling I found this to be a pretty common issue. I am dissapointed it broke, but they are taking care of me and it should be fixed rather quickly.

Really happy with the service.

Warn will be on the jeep someday... too many more important things.
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Just giving you a hard time. Engo makes one of the better economy winches. The Smitty, Harbour Frieght etc..are all crap.

If I was a college kid on a budget I wouldn't have have the Jeep you have built.
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I know man, thanks. It's true though. I would love a warn. Probably sometime in the next few years before this one dies again. To be fair I have put a lickin on this one.

Busted up my tie rod and winched myself out of a blue trail (black at Rausch, supposed to have 35s+ and 2 lockers) just this weekend and saved my can.

I blew up my angled grinder last week, took out the tie rod and steering stabilizer this weekend, and now the winch. I am seriously on a bad streak lately... I need to put some new parts on and focus on not breaking anything. I guess I can go rip the winch off and tear it down for when the new parts come in.
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Still running a stock tie rod?
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:44 PM   #12
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I was. I mean I guess I am at the moment. I got a ZJ v8 one coming soon from a buddy. Then I will be investing in some 1 ton TRE and DOM.

"Y" Link Steering using GM 1 Ton TRE - RuffStuff Specialties

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Yeah that's pretty bent... And unless the camera is playing tricks, you may want to have a closer look at that steering stabilizer.
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Yeah that's pretty bent... And unless the camera is playing tricks, you may want to have a closer look at that steering stabilizer.
Dude steering stabilizer is definitely long gone lol it has like a 45 degree bend in the shaft and blew all the fluid out.
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Old 06-14-2013, 07:23 PM   #15
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Reassembling the winch, will throw some pics up of the repair. Actually really easy like a 5 minute job once I figured out what part of the winch I actually hard to open!
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Old 06-14-2013, 07:42 PM   #16
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Okay here it is. So first you remove the two bolts holding the one half to the rails You wana remove the side with 2 bolts on it, that houses the electrical crap. You pull that half off and sit it aside. You look down in and probably see a broken spring and crap. That is the last pic I have posted. Grab the whole drum assembly and remove. Inset your new drum asembly and rotate until the rod slides completely down in the the gears on the winch half that on the floor (the bottom from when you started). Then look at the broken crap you just removed and laugh because this repair is stupid easy. Place the new keyway they send, following the diagram. The raised edges sit between the two metal pieces, in the small holes, not the wider holes. Place the top half back on, you will have to rotate it or spin the small metal shaft by hand to line it up. Make sure everything is fully seated, and reattach the two bolts you originally removed. Test to see that the clutch engages and holds and disengages and lets you free spool.

This should have fixed my winch. I will find out for sure once I wire it back up. I checked the gears on the other side of the winch and they looked good and actually pretty clean.

I have found another forum where a guy just removed the broken spring, and placed the keyway back on, and his winch worked... if you are in a bind out on the trail, and obviously don't have the backup parts, you might try this to get your winch working and get you home.
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Winch is good to go.

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