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Old 06-15-2012, 11:11 AM   #1
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Hello everyone, I want to apologize in advance because I'm quite sure this introductory post will become rather lengthy (That's what she said). Ahem, as I was saying. I'm new on the forum but have been reading posts here for the past few months. Basically, I have a problem picking a vehicle. I know I'm coming to a Jeep forum and so biased answers should be expected from some, but if anyone knows about off-roading It would guess it'd be the people on here. From what I've seen, all the most hardcore guy's into this scene tend to own Jeep Wranglers, and the general vibe around this forum is a one of intelligence born of experience.
Alright, so this is the situation. I'm 22 years old, and haven't owned anything vehicle-wise yet. I've only lived in small towns my whole life so I haven't needed or wanted a vehicle...until I started hunting. I now live way the hell up in northern Canada. It's winter half the year, and the other half is basically fall. True summer is only about 2-3 months long here. Last couple years it only lasted about 2.5 months. I'm heavily into hunting, and spent most of my free time (Even in my childhood) in the wilderness before I ever started hunting. But I have recently decided to use my savings next fall (Probably in September or October) on a vehicle. A crucial part of this picking process will obviously be what terrain I will be driving on.
Terrain includes mostly wooded trails with dirt, mud during the brief summer, obstacles like fallen trees (Which I seen on a few trails this year), huge ruts (The winter here really screws up our roadways), ditches, lots of rock, gravel & obviously snow & ice later in the year. Were talking crazy temps like -50, and even the average is something stupid like -30. I felt -60 one winter a few years back, my eyelashes stuck to my cheeks within seconds lol.
Before we get to the choices I am considering, I want ya to know I fully intend to mod the s**t out of whatever I get. My choices are between three vehicles. The Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (No brainer), The Toyota FJ Cruiser, and finally the H1.
I would like to hear the pros and cons of all three, and remember I said I will be modding it to hell and back. Also, one final thing, I want to know your opinion on swapping engines in Wranglers or FJs. I hate those tiny V6 lawnmowers they come with stock that can barely turn the tires over. I intend to swap for a big V8 or a Diesel. What do you recommend and why. Thanks in advance to everyone, and I cannot wait for the near future when I get to work with all of you in modding whatever the ultimate choice is. Because I know I will definitely be needing your help in those areas, but that is a whole other topic for a later date. If my grammer is screwed up in any way just blame it on the fact that I havent slept in the last 36 hours *yawn*. I HATE having to sleep. Makes me angry thinking about wasting 6-8 hours of laying in one spot.

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Old 06-15-2012, 12:21 PM   #2
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I will keep it short...based on what you said, get a TJ for the sake of reliabilty and parts availablity. The cons of the other choices are... well you will be happier with the Wrangler.

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Old 06-15-2012, 12:35 PM   #3
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Like you said, you're on a Jeep forum, expect biased answers.
I have not owned a FJ or Hummer, so I cannot speak to the capabilities of those.
This is my third Jeep (CJ5, YJ, JK) and I can attest, they are better with every new version that comes out.

You cannot beat the aftermarket support for modifying the Jeep.

The H1 will be more expensive to buy than the Jeep and FJ combined.

I will tell you, I was amazed at what the stock Jeep can do and where it could go.

Good luck, and welcome to the forum.
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Just go with the wrangler, you know its better and you can't find more mods than any other vehicle than the wrangler
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:10 PM   #5
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The fj cruiser is the hummers gay cousin hahaha
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:09 PM   #6
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The fj cruiser is the hummers gay cousin hahaha
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:27 PM   #7
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Jeep should be able to take you where you want to go and has a HUGE aftermarket following. Not to mention it's cheaper to own and mod compared to the other two. Also its the only option out of the three with solid axles front and rear which come in handy when articulating (driving over fallen trees).
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now everyone is going to put in about the wrangler(and rightly so, as it is awesome) so ill speak up for the H1.

for as big as those things are, they are very cramped inside. the civilian version seats were not made to comfortably hold some one who is anything more then skinny. all my experience with the H1 was bout 4-5 years ago, back in high school. 6 feet tall, 160 pounds. even being a bean pole, i still found the H1 to be very narrow and cramped. with the drivetrain pushed up between the seats, it takes up A LOT of prime passenger real estate.

now if you think the straight six and v6 used in wranglers is bad, you will not like the H1 much more. the diesels used in the Hummer are very slow, and low in the HP department. i can tell you from experience, that a 1997 toyota 4runner will run circles around, and away from a H1.

not to mention, way back in the woods, the width of the H1 could be come an issue.
the narrower TJ or 2 door JK are the place to be on a tight trail.

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