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Old 12-25-2012, 07:01 PM   #1
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Folding shovel

For all of us in the north, the snow fall has began. So the obvious activites follow: snow wheeling. My question here is i need a shovel that will be good enough to handle digging a tire or two out of the snow but that is still compressable (or small enough to fit nicely in my trunk.) It will most likely be used for other tasks, like if i get stuck in light mud/sand areas etc. Or making sand castles. It doesnt have to be the strongest thing on the planet, just enough to bring me home with out having to be replaced every year. I saw ones like the rugged ridge tri folding shovel. Any one have any ideas?

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Old 12-25-2012, 07:35 PM   #2
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I keep a trench shovel in my LJ that I got from my local army surplus store.

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Old 12-25-2012, 07:44 PM   #3
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Bought an E-tool from my local Fleet Farm for 8 bucks. Figured that and my winch will be able to work me out if I get stuck.
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Old 12-25-2012, 07:46 PM   #4
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If you have the money for it check out the hi-lift handle all. 4 in one tool kit.
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Old 12-25-2012, 07:58 PM   #5
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fried fish is right! Best shovel for my vehicle, I've had one for years don't take much space, you can get them cheep, and their built to last forever!
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Thanks for the hot tip best get out to the surplus store.
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:13 PM   #7
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I dont have any Army surplus stores in my area, so i went online and found this :

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Is this what you guys are talking about? Merry Christmas by the way.
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:51 PM   #8
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There's 2 styles at the supply store. There's that one, and one that doesn't have the folding handle that also has a folding pick ax. The one with the folding pick ax model I beleave is the older design. And the one you have pictured is what I understand is currently used by our armed forces. Not being enlisted and have never been enlisted I'm not 100%.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:47 AM   #9
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I've had one like the one pictured for years. I actually have a POS made in China version that I've been meaning to replace. It still works, but isn't as sturdy as the ones you probably find in the surplus store. Just a warning to NOT get the el cheapo Chinese version if you can.
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Old 12-26-2012, 02:34 PM   #10
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It doesnt say on the website who makes it, it just calls it a military style. It does have a saw edge (a real one) so i think this should be the way to go..(?)
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Old 12-26-2012, 02:42 PM   #11
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For me, I carry a small shovel but havn't used it yet in a few years of MI winters. I was stuck once where I needed a shovel. Fortunately, it was in front of my house so I grabbed a full size shovel. The reason I needed it was quite simple, I drove over a snow plowed hill and high sided on the nerf bars before my lift was installed. All four tires off the ground. I had to bust up the snow and ice from under the nerfs, as I did it both sides eventually dropped to ground level and I was able to get tires on the ground to drive off of it.

Any shovel is a good shovel if your stuck but I tell you one things for sure, a little shovel sucks for breaking up ice clumps lol. I'd have had a lot of work ahead of me that time If I would not have been able to kick the shovel to break the ice pieces up. I've noticed over the years with the jeep to, if your stuck, your going to be pretty stuck. Theres no "just a little stuck" as we can drive over most of the snow. If you bury it, hopefully you have more than a shovel around here

Anyone have stories of a shovel actually saving the day? Just curious... not saying they don't by any means. Just curious of real world uses to get out from being stuck. I use mine more for camping, firepits, etc... When Im stuck, I need a truck heavier than my jeep to get me out most of the time.
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:50 PM   #12
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For me, I carry a small shovel but havn't used it yet in a few years of MI winters. I was stuck once where I needed a shovel. Fortunately, it was in front of my house so I grabbed a full size shovel. The reason I needed it was quite simple, I drove over a snow plowed hill and high sided on the nerf bars before my lift was installed. All four tires off the ground. I had to bust up the snow and ice from under the nerfs, as I did it both sides eventually dropped to ground level and I was able to get tires on the ground to drive off of it.

Any shovel is a good shovel if your stuck but I tell you one things for sure, a little shovel sucks for breaking up ice clumps lol. I'd have had a lot of work ahead of me that time If I would not have been able to kick the shovel to break the ice pieces up. I've noticed over the years with the jeep to, if your stuck, your going to be pretty stuck. Theres no "just a little stuck" as we can drive over most of the snow. If you bury it, hopefully you have more than a shovel around here

Anyone have stories of a shovel actually saving the day? Just curious... not saying they don't by any means. Just curious of real world uses to get out from being stuck. I use mine more for camping, firepits, etc... When Im stuck, I need a truck heavier than my jeep to get me out most of the time.
This is 100% true. Jeeps are too capable to be stuck where a simple shovel can save you, but i feel that in snow, where its very easy to start spinning and stop, a small compact shovel can get you unstuck. Now im re thinking this... Ive only been stuck once. I was going through a rut that, as i soon found out, was made for people with 40" super swampers. I was so stuck, it took 7 hours, and 3 different trucks. (yes trucks) The funny thing is i actually made it almost all the way until my front diff bottomed out on the middle of the rut. After ward when i was free, i looked at the rut and said "I'll be back..."
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:03 PM   #13
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Ive carried one of those military style trifold shovels for years. As stated above they dont work as good as full sized shovels but they fit in the back of the jeep better. Ive never had to use one in my Jeep. But several years ago I blew a tire while wheeling in deep sand in my full sized blazer. I needed to dig just to get enough room for the high-lift jack to fit. I used the same shovel then that is in my JKU right now. And that is just one of the many times Ive used it. I dont know what I paid for it, but has paid for itself many times over in the 20+ years Ive had it.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:03 AM   #14
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Look around for a childs snow shovel. They are a lot shorter but have a good sized blade, and they are not expensive.
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I have not used it but quadratec has a baja buster it's a hi lift jack and the handle has a shovel and a hoe head it's only $40 I'm leaning in that direction myself bc I need a jack as well
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:42 PM   #16
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Look around for a childs snow shovel. They are a lot shorter but have a good sized blade, and they are not expensive.
This is what i was thinking, just in case if i did get into that jam where a shovel may be needed for snow. (friend is stuck in his hummer or something)
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There's 2 styles at the supply store. There's that one, and one that doesn't have the folding handle that also has a folding pick ax. The one with the folding pick ax model I beleave is the older design. And the one you have pictured is what I understand is currently used by our armed forces. Not being enlisted and have never been enlisted I'm not 100%.
The version with a straight (no triangle) handle and an integrated pick was phased out in the late 80's. They didn't lock quite as well, and the handle was usually wood and was easier to break or loosen. Either version is hella durable. An actual military one will run you $50, but are much cheaper at surplus stores.

They are ridiculously bad as a digging tool, but they're small and light enough to carry in a pack, so much more suited for a hiker/backpacker than a jeep. I have an issued e-tool, but in the jeep I carry an actual spade shovel that I chopped the handle short on, to around a foot and a half, so it would fit in a footlocker.
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Has anyone seen one that's a bit bigger than the foldable/collapse able ones? Like instead of two folding segments there's three and its not as short as my arm?
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:01 PM   #19
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Got a harbor freight little shovel for like $8 bucks, was concidering a folder but after talking to more experienced wheelers you might as well use a plastic spoon. Small shovel is a back breaker. Mine is like 3 feet long and pretty sturdy. Used it to dig holes in dirt/snow and even remove a linolium floor in my house. I would carry a full size if i had a roof rack. Just my 2 cents.
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I bought all of my family one of these for XMAS from Gander Mountain.

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