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Old 12-30-2011, 07:07 PM   #1
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handling on icey roads

I am about to purchase a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. How does this compare to other AWD's on icey roads at speeds at 60 mph for example? I know the vehicles I've owned in the past handled well but not real sure on the 4X4 thing. I have owned (and loved) 2 Hummer H3's and a boring Ford Edge. All handle well at highway speeds on ice. Not sure I'm going to like a locked in 4X4...or the rear wheel drive thing. My pickup is light in the rear and isn't the best on ice anytime... at lease without alot of weight in the box. The 4X4 pickup I own is generally for work and not loving it on ice even when in 4H...at least compared to the peace of mind of an AWD. My Hummer was perfect...but I hope the Jeep will make a good replacement. What's the dif??

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Old 12-30-2011, 09:43 PM   #2
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Ah yep, light weight, short wheel base, and ice don't mix well, especially at 60 mph.

And good luck getting stopped. LOL! A jeep will swap ends faster then you can blink.
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If you want something that handles well on ice, get a Zamboni.
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Old 12-31-2011, 05:21 AM   #5
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:53 AM   #6
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I wouldn't do highway speeds on ice with my JK, or any of the other 4 Jeeps I owned. You might need to go slower than you have been used to on ice. If I drive slower in 4WD, I don't have a problem. Have fun with the new Jeep.
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Old 12-31-2011, 09:02 AM   #7
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60 MPH on ice is a recipe for disaster for you and others sharing the road in any vehicle. Do you mean packed snow/ice? Patchy ice/snow?
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Old 12-31-2011, 09:30 AM   #8
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Ah yep, light weight, short wheel base, and ice don't mix well, especially at 60 mph.

And good luck getting stopped. LOL! A jeep will swap ends faster then you can blink.
just had my 1st experence w/blk ice-ever. didn't even think about it as i went from home to a neighboring town(10 mi open rd) with nothing. doing 35 mph in town and the next thing i knew i was looking up someones driveway--did a 450(360+an additional 90). wasn't speeding up/slowing down-just doing a steady speed-next thing it's hold on and enjoy the ride cause there isn't a thing you can do-best to do nothing.
now snow is another thing entirely. went through last winter's big one(2 ft +) before the plows were out-riot . also had an idiot passing a plow on way to work 1 am-7" plowed snow and a few additional of fresh on the sholder-hit that at 45 and it was in-out no problem, not even a wiggle out of the jeep--i was impressed. just glad said idiot didn't do the same thing i did-although he was in my lane and it should have been him taking the ditch.
bottom line-isn't anything street legal that's good on ice(that i know of)-though there are things you can use(if legal in your area-ie chains/studs) snow is a different matter-mine did great last winter and that's with plain ole stock tires-but because of their short wheel base, jeeps can be alittle squirrley though once you get used to it, it's better than most(not as good as my 2500hd/CC/long bed but it's also 21'+ long)
1st good snow-find an empty parking lot or deserted road and find out how it will handle
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Yes, Packed snow and ice. Sometimes in Iowa we may go a month without the road clearing off and we get used to moving right along...carefully.
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Thanks for all the good advice. I think my JEEP will be a good replacement for the yellow H3 I miss.
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We were going 25 and hit ice and did a 360. These just aren't great on ice, but anything else the can tackle
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Thanks for all the good advice. I think my JEEP will be a good replacement for the yellow H3 I miss.
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Old 12-31-2011, 01:24 PM   #13
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Yes, Packed snow and ice. Sometimes in Iowa we may go a month without the road clearing off and we get used to moving right along...carefully.
Cool. Here in Oklahoma we sometimes get those nasty ice storms. The storms that dump pure freezing rain leaving 1-3 inch sheets of smooth clear ice on the roads. Nasty stuff.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:34 AM   #14
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Stay slow, light on the gas pedal, run a gear high if you can, and use engine braking when possible.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:46 AM   #15
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Stay slow, light on the gas pedal, run a gear high if you can, and use engine braking when possible.
Be careful about engine braking too though. Last year I was driving to school and I down shifted from 3rd to 2nd and popped the clutch alittle to fast. My rear end kicked out sideways before the tires caught and the rear came back straight
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:20 PM   #16
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I had my very first experience with icy roads yesterday in Northern Kentucky/Cincinnati. I was traveling home at a very slow pace, up and down hills for about 20miles. My JK was handling very well in 2WD and as the hills steepend, I began encountering a small amount of slippage, so I threw it into 4W HI and it was smooth sailng from there. I encountered A LOT of stop and go on the hills (drive ten ft - STOP; start up, drive 5ft - STOP; it was brutal) and my JK had no sliding issues at all once I was in 4W HI.

The key to driving in those conditions, as stated above, is easy on the gas pedal. I didn't make it out of 2nd gear the entire 3hr ride home -yep, that's not a mistake - 20miles in 3hrs.
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Be careful about engine braking too though. Last year I was driving to school and I down shifted from 3rd to 2nd and popped the clutch alittle to fast. My rear end kicked out sideways before the tires caught and the rear came back straight
I was referring to proper engine braking, and not the sort where you downshift abruptly and fail to match engine RPMs.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:39 PM   #18
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To the OP, nothing handles well on ice. I don't care what brand you have, 2 or 4 or all wheel drive unless you have spiked tires you are out of luck. As for wondering if a jeep 4x4 will handle as well as you hummer or other awd's they are basically the same thing when there is no traction. Like someone said before we are taking it that you are talking about packed snow, not ice. I lived in MN for a while and my mustang handled packed snow coverd roads just fine. It's all about the tires and the driver, the vehicle really doesn't have much to add to it unless you are talking about heavy snowfall or some computer controlled new car that lets not so good drivers get out of situations that they got themselves into. If you are worried about the jeep, don't. Just make sure you practice with it on some deserted roads so you can get the feel of how it acts compared to how your pickup and other previous vehicles acted. And of course, good tires.
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Old 01-04-2012, 03:25 AM   #19
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The NP242 in Cherokee models fairs better on ice than the NP231 in Wrangler models.

I grew up driving on icy roads. Once you learn how to keep a vehicle straight at 55mph on ice it all becomes natural.

However, when encountering icy roads in the southern states JUST STAY HOME. Most people have no idea how to drive on icy roads so the accidents usually occur due to others hitting your vehicle.
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4 Hi and right two wheels on the berm. Just like my '65 Chevy Biscayne. Except for the 4 Hi, that is... Oh, and try not to run bald, mismatched tires.
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I agree with many above on ice it is all luck, if you have chains or studs you will do better, I would not drive 65 on ice at any time. I had a 94 wrangler in 4 wheel going 5 mph hit a large patch of ice and ended up in a field. I just kept it in the field and followed through till the road was less icy. Everytime I tried to get out of the field and back to the road the ice prevented me from doing so. As with many jeep drivers find out sometimes you do not need roads

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