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Old 04-10-2011, 08:14 AM   #1
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Hello all! Newbie needs advice...

Sorry for just blundering right into things folks without first creating a little rapport, BUT, this old boy is feeling a little desperate at the moment and so I could use some sound advice.

My frightening yet hopeful situation is that last Monday me and my fellow janitors walked into our company and got the boot. It wasn't unexpected as they gave us a good two-months notice that they'd be outsourcing our jobs in order to save money.

My particular situation is that I'm a 56-year-old diabetic that's single and will be soon cashing in my 401(k) which will give me around 50-g's to play with (unless the economy hits the skids big-time in the next couple of weeks, causing it, 401, to go down the toilet) and so the idea has popped into my head that maybe I could shell-out some cash at the local Jeep dealership and get me one of those cool and sweet 4-door Wrangler Unlimiteds to kinda live a Crocodile Dungee lifestyle in the outback of my wonderful state of Nevada!

I of course wouldn't be doing my thing in swamps like the movie star in question did (as there's not a lot of water in the Silver State), but my thinking is that I could have some fun and, hopefully, some success gold detecting with a metal detector and possibly writing-out some screenplays long-hand on legal pads while kicking back and getting some fresh air. All in all I'm thinking it could be great fun and that if I get the necessary hunting permits I could sustain myself on deer meat and maybe some of those big rabbits they've got running around out there!

I know all the "experts" say that one should absolutely not cash-out their 401's, but this old boy isn't exactly the brightest fellow The Good Lord ever breathed life into and so the romantic notion of going out and living like a nomad seems a bit more appealing than diving right back into cleaning urinals at minimum wage, as I'm sure all of you can understand.

And to be sure, one can hardly look at what's going on in this country with respect to the social, political, economic and general cultural health of things and have much confidence in the notion that coming down the pike is nothing but blue skies and sunshine. Thus, a fellow living like a rat with some guns and supplies ... might be better situated when the whole house of cards collapses and people start going at each other with clubs to get at the other guy's bread crumbs, no?

On a more cheerful note, can anyone tell me what I should offer these Jeep people when I walk in there with some dough? I'd hate to overpay those good folks in view of the fact that I'll not have any money coming in in the forceable future. Just a decent ballpark figure for a reasonably equipped Unlimited would be much appreciated is all I'm asking.

Lastly, there are two things that give me somber pause for consideration about this big plan of mine. One is that while my intention would be to basically get out into nowhere ... setting up camps at various places, I nevertheless am concerned about how thirsty these machines are. Is there *any* comforting words of advice that any of you might share to allay my angst on the matter? And the other thing I wonder about is the mechanical reliability of these beautiful Unlimiteds; would YOU feel safe about going miles out into a desert alone in one, or to your way of thinking would that be utter madness?

I love the fact that one of these fabulous machines would permit me to REALLY load up some water and supplies and then head out with my kitty-cat and live the life that many can only dream of, though, admittedly, I tremble at all the things that could go wrong with this amazing plan I'm considering. My thinking also is that when it starts getting cold I can either head to someplace like Arizona and metal detect there and/or I could get a dishwashing job to make a few bucks before resuming my life as a desert loner when it gets warmer ... listening to Coast to Coast at night by a crackling camp fire while thinking about women and striking it rich.

Well, my new pals, I am waaay past my bed time but I GREATLY look forward to reading whatever kind and constructive comments my post may have generated, THANKS MUCH!!

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Wow Elmer. First off, you might consider a career in writing, you've for quite the knack for it. Just reading your little dream, I imagined myself living out in the wilderness, living off the land and out of my jeep...

Now I'm a firm believer in letting someone make their own choices, unless they are suffering from a mental condition that interferes with their ability to make safe, rational decisions. But it sounds like you are a man of sound mind and body, who has thought this through. So I am going to keep any and all opinions about your adventure to myself, and I hope others will follow suit.

With that being said, I don't know how expensive a JKU is where you live. I'm in new york, out on long island where everything is twice as expensive as it should be. But if you're looking to pay cash, I'd take whatever price the dealership was asking for, chop 5g off and start negotiating from there. You might wind up paying a little more, maybe a little less. But you should not be paying full price if you walk in there with a bag full of dead presidents!

To answer another one of your questions, yes the jeep is fully capable of heading out into the wilderness and getting you where you want to go. However, it isn't safe to head out away from civilization alone. Unless your cat is smart enough to go run for help if you get in a jam! At the very least, make sure someone always knows where you are. A CB radio might be a wise purchase too...

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The fuel economy of a jeep is just awful. We, as jeep owners, accept this as fact and keep on keepin' on. But there are some things you can do to help your mpg. Fellow jeepers out there please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe any modification that increases the breathability of the engine or the exhaust system will get you better fuel economy. There are a few ways to do this, but getting yourself an aftermarket air intake system is a relatively inexpensive way to go. K&N makes great systems for $200-300 that are easy to install. Also, if fuel economy is a concern, do not put bigger or wider tires on your jeep and do no lift it in any way. Those both have a negative impact on fuel consumption (but they make the jeep look great and perform off road even better!)

Also, as far as mechanical reliability, I'm from the school of thought that says as long as you properly maintain your vehicle and regularly check and replace its fluids, she won't do you wrong. But a life out in the desert is another story, so I'm not certain how it would respond to the constant abuse it would take in such an extreme environment.

Again, good luck sir! I think you should start a blog of your adventures out in the wilds...
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:34 AM   #4
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Cash out and come up to Canada for the summer! At least that way you won't completely fry like bacon in a pan whilst sleeping in your jeep, don't get me wrong we have plenty of hot weather but at least you can cool off by jumping into any one of the kazillion lakes or rivers we have. It'll be an eye opener for sure!
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Wow! I have those dreams, just not the courage. Good luck in whatever you decide.
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And another small but valid point is the fact that you are a diabetic, a question comes to mine, medical supply may need to be refrigerated, in the desert that might be a little on the tough side, being closer to help might not be a bad thing.
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Welcome to the forum and good luck with your early retirement
If I was considering your adventure, I'd buy a 4x4 pickup to tow a travel trailer and haul a quad. The quad will be so much better on gas and the trailer will be way more comfy than a tent. Jeeps are great fun, but not really good only vehicles imo. Hang onto that $50K and really think your next move through.
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Old 04-10-2011, 08:16 PM   #8
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Take the 50 G start a company. stock up on beans and rice and dig in brother. 50G won't keep you alive for very long but if you start a comapny its deductable and the 50 Gs become 65 in real money. Drive on, don't give up press on.
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Old 04-10-2011, 08:33 PM   #9
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Jeeps are pigs on fuel, most guys on this board with with stock or lightly modded jeeps are lucky to get in the upper teens mpg on the highway.

If you don't want to overpay, steer clear of the dealership and buy used. I've been there, done that and buying new is one of the stupidest things you can do when you can get a nice clean used low mileage example for so much $$$ less.
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Before you get started, its wise to remember that you don't own 50k in your 401k. You have approx. 50k in deferred income that you have yet to pay taxes on. Uncle Sam is patiently waiting to take his cut, as well as your state and possibly locality.

Plus, you're only 56, so you can't get it without paying a penalty. (You can, but that's a topic for another thread). The last kick in the pants is, you'll have to A) have 20% withheld mandatory (federal law) upon withdrawal and the full amount of your withdrawal will be added onto whatever you've earned as income this year.

You'll net 50-60% after taxes and penalties if you yank it out as a lump sum.

Long story short, your dreams of Cash for Jeepers is probably not a feasible one at the moment.
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:47 PM   #11
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I must say that sounds like one heck of an adventure. I have to agree with 444's statement, find a used Jeep with low miles and that has been taken care of. You can really save alot of cash by doing so.

Jeeps are notorious for not having adequate storage space so you may want to look into roof racks and/or a pull behind trailer such as Adventure Trailers that house a tent thats up off the ground, small prep and cooking station, and plenty of room for extra gasoline, water, food, and gear. The link is Adventure Trailers

I also want to add that if you are going to be wheeling alone in the middle of nowhere, I suggest you purchase a good reliable winch, recovery gear, and GPS unit. These items could get you out of a bad situations if any happen to arise.

As for being diabetic, ARB and many other companies make ice chests that can be plugged into a vehicle's power outlet to stay cool. This could be useful if your medication needs to stay at a certain temperature.

Anyway, I hope this provides you with some helpful information and hope you find the gold motherload on your journey.
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Hey All!

Profuse apologies for not having gotten back here sooner to reply! Moments after I wrote my post I had to hop on the KLR and get some allergy medicine from CVS. I've been as healthy as an ox for the past 17 or so years, but I made a big mistake due to picking up bags of frozen seafood from the grocery store lately. I always knew that the stuff from overseas is something one takes his chances with due to the chemicals and unclean conditions that stuff is processed under (but it tastes sooo good in butter and washed down with beer). The bag that nailed me with an unpleasant throat/lung condition straight-away was courtesy of an outfit called AquaStar, which happend last Sunday night and now the ailment has morphed into allergy due to lowering the old immune threshold. (I expect it to run the gamete and go out in a blaze via sore throat and the chills. It should be fun. .) In a moment I'm going to hit the sack again and add to the 16 hours I'd already spent there.

I normally write back to each individual but the bed calls ... and so I'll just touch on some general stuff and what I can recall you kind folks posting.

The point that one fellow made was that in the desert one can get REALLY uncomfortable out there due to the suffocating heat. I'm HORRIBLE at handling heat, and so this little fact alone is enough to make me wonder if this is all such a good idea after all.

Another person pointed out that my 401 money stands a good chance of being pretty skimpy after the government gives it a good molesting. However, last week a fellow at the local Fidelity office said that taxes would have to be dealt with but there'd be no penalty due to it not being my fault about losing the job. (I'm not sure he was giving good info though on account that he told me that it would be about a 10% tax pain, whereas a Fidelity person I spoke with over the phone a short time later said it would be 20%.)

A couple of you guys pointed out that my diabetes medicine would deteriorate in strength due to the heat. That's definitely another wrench thrown into my fast-collapsing vision of long desert silence and lovely sunsets in the great outdoors. Shucks.

I also thank Greenman for the encouraging comments about maybe doing some writing. That's a powerfully wonderful thing to hear, but while I know my abilities in that regard have limitations, I do feel pretty confident that I could write some screenplays and maybe be spared the pain and humiliation of returning to my old career. (When my ailment clears up I'm a-gonna pull out the stops and see what happens.)

I keep hearing on the radio that gas could possibly go to 5-per-gallon soon. Sheeet! THAT's too much!

Btw, I'm also considering laying some dough down on a 2010 or '11 Ford Focus instead. I can get a new fairly base model for $15,500, because for my current needs -- as well as the points you folks made -- the cost of a terrific Unlimited might be a little too out of reach for me at present time.

That's Plan B.

My optimistic thinking as I sit here wondering about all of this is that maybe if I focus on writing some (successful) screenplays, I could hop on my Kaw and head down to L.A. and present them to the big-shots at Sony (though I know agents are the way to go, fer sure.....).

Sooooo the long and the short of it is that I'm glad I dropped in here to get excellent advice on what I should do. You have all been great sports and thus I reckon I gotta pass on something I'd love to call mine. But no matter what happens ..., I guess we can ALL thank our lucky stars that we're not being hit with what those poor Japanese folks are going through. Perspective.

Take Care All! And again, I apologize for not getting back to you sooner and for not responding to each of you more personally. This old boy's goin' to bed now!
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Another person pointed out that my 401 money stands a good chance of being pretty skimpy after the government gives it a good molesting. However, last week a fellow at the local Fidelity office said that taxes would have to be dealt with but there'd be no penalty due to it not being my fault about losing the job. (I'm not sure he was giving good info though on account that he told me that it would be about a 10% tax pain, whereas a Fidelity person I spoke with over the phone a short time later said it would be 20%.)
Trust me, the Fidelity guy is absolutely 100% wrong. If he is a pretty young (20 something) guy, he's most likely been in that job less than 2 years and is still reading from the scripts they give him in training.

You can avoid the 20% mandatory withholding by rolling over to an IRA first. Any withdrawals you make after that, from the IRA, you can elect how much you want withheld. If you take a cash withdrawal directly from the plan, it is Federal Law that they withhold 20%. This is NOT a penalty. It's just a withholding, like from your paycheck.

The 10% penalty applies to all withdrawals from any retirement account (401k, IRA, TSA, etc.) There are certain exceptions that will allow you to avoid the penalty. You should discuss them with a CPA or tax advisor BEFORE you take any money out to see if any of them can apply to you. A 24 year old kid reading from a script, trying to convince you to roll over to Fidelity, is not a tax advisor.

Regardless, the $50k is fully taxable, penalty or not.

Sorry to slightly 'jack the thread, but I hate to see someone burn their life savings over a rushed decision with wrong information.

Good luck with your decision.
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listen to latufo, he's right. almost 2 years ago i was bought out be my company, i got a very large sum of money, 6 figures, after i paid all taxes i thought i was safe,,, big mistake,, come tax time i stilled owed 30 grand, be smart and roll it over and forget about it...
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listen to latufo, he's right. almost 2 years ago i was bought out be my company, i got a very large sum of money, 6 figures, after i paid all taxes i thought i was safe,,, big mistake,, come tax time i stilled owed 30 grand, be smart and roll it over and forget about it...
Thanks!

You and LaTuFu I'm sure are wise about this. And maybe I will decide to roll it over to an IRA after I chat with the 401(k) guy. However, I need money NOW and trying to wait three years could see me laying in a coffin by then, or possibly the entire economic system will have collapsed by then, who knows. Also, I promised my struggling niece that I'd give her 25-g's to get her a new car and get on her feet a little better in life. She has two young daughters and has recently gotten a very good job but could lose it due to having to drive 70 miles per day with a car that keeps giving her problems. (I tried to avoid mentioning this......)

Sooo if the 401(k) guy tells me I can roll it into an IRA and avoid some bad things happening while still being able to keep my promise to my niece, then maybe I'll do that. (I must say, it's such a pity that our government keeps finding ways to get into wars and throw away trillions of $ in other foolish ways while helping themselves to $ that Americans have worked so hard for. You'd be amazed at how many urinals I had to clean for this paltry 50-g's.)

I thank you guys for laying down some serious but necessary truth towards helping me figure all this out.
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It's nice that you want to help your niece, but you really don't have the ability to. That $50k is all you have for retirement.

Even with diabetes, you have a 20+ year life expectancy. At some point you gotta take care of you first.
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It's nice that you want to help your niece, but you really don't have the ability to. That $50k is all you have for retirement.

Even with diabetes, you have a 20+ year life expectancy. At some point you gotta take care of you first.
I can't go back on my word. Plus, I do have a fair amount of confidence that I can make some dough via screenplays. Besides, if I fail at that endeavor, I can see myself surviving at some menial jobs ... and then kicking the bucket, no biggie.
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WTH? I'm up for a good story!
I started reading this thread and thought-Wow, this guy has a good idea-living off the land, enjoying his last years and helping his niece. Now I don't know what to think.
It's deceiving to me that someone who doesn't like the heat would consider living in the desert by himself, miles from civilization, with diabetes, in Nevada. But I'm not here to judge-it sounds like you may have lost hope. Hang in there! I will say that you do write a good story, and I wish you luck in finding work and making it big.
As far as your questions, I think they have been answered well-if u go with a Jeep get it used, buy a fridge from ARB for your meds, roll over the money to the Roth IRA.
As far as helping your niece, I think it's admirable in your current situation to want to keep your promise to her, especially since she has two little ones to look out for. Remember that you are her uncle and I'm sure they would all like to see you around for a while, you have a decent heart and can give them quite a bit in life.
I understand your pain and frustration with our government: I too wonder just how bad things will get in the near future.
You seem like a decent guy that deserves a break-after all you have been cleaning up after so many for so long. Whether it's writing or gold that gets you were you are more comfortable, i wish you the best! GOOD LUCK and keep us posted!
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Yep, good luck to you. I hope it works out for you.
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Firemangully -- I didn't mean to try and deceive anyone; I'd simply forgotten about how much I hate extreme heat. (I'd also forgotten about how much it would bother me to be without a shower, as feeling grimy is something that would be very hard for me to take.)

And thank you for the kind words about my story-telling abilities. One of the good things about growing old is that one gets life experiences under the belt, thus a schmuck like me has gained over the course of time a few insights and ideas that weren't born out of a vacuum and, thus, I should be able to cobble together enough material to situate into a few screenplays that have potential for some commercial success. Time will tell!

Thanks to you, too, LaTuFu; you dumped some cold water on my dreams of freedom ... but we all know it was good that you did, so thanks much!:-)

And to whom it may concern: Coming soon to a move theater near you is "The Girly-man"! (An outrageous over-the-top comedy about a dysfunctional man living in a dysfunctional country in a dysfunctional time ... sharing his simple solution to get things back on track at the very moment when all seems lost!;-)
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You already are working on your first screenplay. Call it, What could go wrong? The misadventures of a man who chucks it all a lives by advice he gets off of the internet. The camera pans out from a campsite with a man typing on a laptop with a small sattelite dish hat on his head,dirty, missing his shoes with a jeep with the hood open in the background. The man decides to live by internet advice. Little does he know that on the other end of the net are pimply faced teenagers, perverts, inmates, 5year olds. Not that anybody on this forum are those things.
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You already are working on your first screenplay. Call it, What could go wrong? The misadventures of a man who chucks it all a lives by advice he gets off of the internet. The camera pans out from a campsite with a man typing on a laptop with a small sattelite dish hat on his head,dirty, missing his shoes with a jeep with the hood open in the background. The man decides to live by internet advice. Little does he know that on the other end of the net are pimply faced teenagers, perverts, inmates, 5year olds. Not that anybody on this forum are those things.
Please accept my apology for not having cleared things with you first.
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Pimply faced perverts??? Dang, that hurt
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I've gotta chime in that's it's nice to be on a forum that is actually being nice and giving our new friend here some sound and respectful advice when so many other places on the internet would be so disrespectful and ignorant...that being said, best of luck in whatever choice you make Mr. Fudd. You seem like a decent guy hitting hard times. Best advice I have is keep your chin up and don't give up on anything until the dirt nap starts!
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Ha! Jimbox I swear that is the first thing that popped in my mind!
And to you ElmerFudd goodluck, if you are on the up and up. I am not saying you are not, but this is the internet full of pimply faced teenagers, criminals, perverts ect. I am not saying you are not the real deal but your post is full of contradictions and oh yeah I forgots. Be a hermit in the desert then later say you can't take the heat. Hmmmmmmmm.
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Who you calling pimply faced? I'm telling my mom!
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:53 PM   #28
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Ha! Jimbox I swear that is the first thing that popped in my mind!
And to you ElmerFudd goodluck, if you are on the up and up. I am not saying you are not, but this is the internet full of pimply faced teenagers, criminals, perverts ect. I am not saying you are not the real deal but your post is full of contradictions and oh yeah I forgots. Be a hermit in the desert then later say you can't take the heat. Hmmmmmmmm.
Since you continue to question my honor I can't let things stand as they are, pal, so I'll take a moment here ... and then be out the door for good.

I won't ask you to explain what pimples on the faces of young people have to do with anything, nor ask why perverts and criminals would take the time to register to a website for Jeep enthusiasts and participate the way in which I have briefly done in this wonderful place, as it wouldn't be kind of me to put you on the spot like that.

However, in my defense regarding your statement that my comments are "full of contradictions ..." and how you then proceeded to cite my memory lapse about the heat for making your case (and to excuse being boorish towards me), I would just like to say that for most of the year where I am in Nevada the desert temperatures aren't very hot; in fact, like now, they can be down right cold. Thus for me to attempt a discussion with Jeep aficionados on the subject as I did -- with respect and openness -- while admittedly spacing-out on a couple of primary aspects of things germane to my concerns, doesn't warrant someone jumping in and creating a ruckus the way you did.

And to all you folks that were so kind and generous with your time and advice? All I can say is THANKS MUCH -- YOU'VE BEEN GREAT SPORTS!!

Hi-oh Silver, away!
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:40 AM   #29
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Since you continue to question my honor I can't let things stand as they are, pal, so I'll take a moment here ... and then be out the door for good.

I won't ask you to explain what pimples on the faces of young people have to do with anything, nor ask why perverts and criminals would take the time to register to a website for Jeep enthusiasts and participate the way in which I have briefly done in this wonderful place, as it wouldn't be kind of me to put you on the spot like that.

However, in my defense regarding your statement that my comments are "full of contradictions ..." and how you then proceeded to cite my memory lapse about the heat for making your case (and to excuse being boorish towards me), I would just like to say that for most of the year where I am in Nevada the desert temperatures aren't very hot; in fact, like now, they can be down right cold. Thus for me to attempt a discussion with Jeep aficionados on the subject as I did -- with respect and openness -- while admittedly spacing-out on a couple of primary aspects of things germane to my concerns, doesn't warrant someone jumping in and creating a ruckus the way you did.

And to all you folks that were so kind and generous with your time and advice? All I can say is THANKS MUCH -- YOU'VE BEEN GREAT SPORTS!!

Hi-oh Silver, away!
Elmer, I do not want to run you off. I am interested to know how this pans out for you. A few things I want to point out to you. Your original post is worded very well and seems to be written by a person who has education and computer skills. To me it seems you are giving too much information about your situation to an unknown audience. Now my post as your story would make a good screenplay (by the way Larry The Cableguy would make a good lead in this film) was meant to help you on your way. I think it would make a great film. Your response to my post was what probably prompted Jimbox to post about VEX. The thread you started is very close to one that a certain person that Jimbox referred to submitted.
AS for my pimply faced teenagers and criminals on the internet let me give you a couple of experiences.
A few years ago I was following a website (not posting or joining) about bigfoot. It was called The international Bigfoot tracking and information center and data base. Impressive site. Made you think that there were scientists and professional people running it. Well I got the address and was passing through the town it was located in. Guess what it was? A pimply faced teenager in a CLOSET with a computer picking Gummy Bears out of his braces and drinking juice out of a box
Went on line to get some auto parts impressive site. Found out it was a chop shop.
So as far as jumping onto a site and throwing info out there, you do not know who is on the other end.
That's my story and I am sticking to it. So do not leave on my account. I will not post on this thread any more.
Oh by the way I am a 56 year old Electrician. Or am I?
I could be a wasckily wabbit Mr Fudd!
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:55 AM   #30
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Elmer, I do not want to run you off. I am interested to know how this pans out for you. A few things I want to point out to you. Your original post is worded very well and seems to be written by a person who has education and computer skills. To me it seems you are giving too much information about your situation to an unknown audience. Now my post as your story would make a good screenplay (by the way Larry The Cableguy would make a good lead in this film) was meant to help you on your way. I think it would make a great film. Your response to my post was what probably prompted Jimbox to post about VEX. The thread you started is very close to one that a certain person that Jimbox referred to submitted.
AS for my pimply faced teenagers and criminals on the internet let me give you a couple of experiences.
A few years ago I was following a website (not posting or joining) about bigfoot. It was called The international Bigfoot tracking and information center and data base. Impressive site. Made you think that there were scientists and professional people running it. Well I got the address and was passing through the town it was located in. Guess what it was? A pimply faced teenager in a CLOSET with a computer picking Gummy Bears out of his braces and drinking juice out of a box
Went on line to get some auto parts impressive site. Found out it was a chop shop.
So as far as jumping onto a site and throwing info out there, you do not know who is on the other end.
That's my story and I am sticking to it. So do not leave on my account. I will not post on this thread any more.
Oh by the way I am a 56 year old Electrician. Or am I?
I could be a wasckily wabbit Mr Fudd!
Well look what happens? I try sneaking in here thinking I'm a-gonna get hammered ... but instead of that, I'm met with decency and bless-id civility. You waspy wabbits are something else, Methinks!

With regard to the amount of personal info ... it's my own belief that one never knows what another person will do, thus I just try and be myself and not get into going overboard with triangulating, finessing, and parsing ... because for me, generally speaking, there's too much headache involved in that sort of thing. I figure if someone wants to track me down and slam a knife into my chest, well, I sure as heck won't like it. But at the same time, life is too short to compromise one's self to such a degree ... (save for the workplace, of course).

With regard to your screenplay comments ... sure, I initially thought you were being sarcastic, but you've clarified well and so there's no worry there. The screenplay I intend to put to paper is one that I've been working on in my head for several years and now it's just a matter of obliterating this dreadful blockage that's been holding me back from doing it. Very mysterious thing I tell you, this blockage.

From what little you've mentioned about your own intro idea, I'd say it sounds like you have more skill at writing a fabulous screenplay than me. Maybe you ought to give serious consideration to such a project, no? The more the merrier!

Not likely that I'll be back posting due to the likelihood of my 401 not being close to sufficient for me to afford a nice Jeep, let alone pay for its thirst and other costs. Such is life.

Take Care and happy trails, Chucky Cheese!

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