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Old 11-05-2013, 12:29 AM   #1
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hi-lift naysayers

This thread is for all the people that say "my hi-lift is perfectly installed... in the corner of the garage"
I would say you haven't taken your jeep far enough if you haven't found a use for it, BUT I'll be humble knowing most of you have taken yours farther than I have ever or will ever take mine.
But I find it absolutely incredible that you could possibly not find a use for it at some point. Yea, winches are incredibly handy and I definitely have already used mine more in two weeks than I have used my hi-lift in a year but let me explain it's versatility and how I am a firm believer in the product line in a story:

A buddy of mine and I decided to spend a sunny afternoon in the great outdoors. We came across a adventurous looking rock pit that looked like it had jeep trails written all over it. Nearing the completion of my objective, I was cresting the final climb when I lost traction. Spinning my tires trying to power through dug me in and exposed a big pointy rock that so happen to be underneath my skid plate. Needless to say, the spinning of tires hopped me up on this rock creating quite the dent



Now, here is where I praise the hi-lift and explain why no one should wheel without one.
First, having found the rock, our immediate attention goes to getting off the rock, and down to my buddies rig to assess the damage. But how to get off the rock? Winching would only damage me further, and the pressure of the weight of the vehicle prevented us from digging out the rock. Despite what all nay-sayers claim about the bottle jack being adequate enough, The rocks and incline of the hill that we were at prevented the bottle jack from even come close. So what is a guy to do? Hi-lift from the wheel. Worked just like clock work.



Was able to lift it high enough to dig out the rock. With the rock removed, we were able to determine if it was still driveable (but hell, the Wrangler is a beast, drove up out of there like nothing happened).

and let me just go a note further and say that I couldn't have winched if I wanted to. There was nothing available to tie off to. As many trees as we have here in Oregon, there are still plenty of places where I find myself more than a 100 feet from the nearest winching attachment.



Also, after getting the the jeep down, and dropping the plate to see if we could straighten it out, our BFG was just not doing it. So what do we do? Hi lift to the rescue again. Using the base of the hi lift we were able to quickly hammer the plate flat again (and the broad base plate did it without making it look all crumpled too).

Twice it came in handy in one trip and it will be permanenly installed.... IN MY JEEP.

I believe in being prepared for all sorts of possibities. That's why my kit contains a winch, yank straps, every tool I have needed thus far, hammers, shovels, axes, OBA, clothes, food, water etc. I would absolutely recommend hi-lift as a useful addition to any kit.

Getting unstuck and problem solving is what makes Jeeping an adventure. Being prepared makes the difference between enjoying the sweat, blood and tears and having a miserable/dangerous last outing.




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Old 11-05-2013, 01:15 AM   #2
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Hilift saved me the first time I got stuck !

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Old 11-05-2013, 05:17 AM   #3
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Maybe you should think about swapping the low hanging tcase skid and huge spacers for a flat skid that is actually durable.

I missed having my leg crushed by 1/2" due to a hi lift jack accident. I'd rather be stuck than use one of those jacks.
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All in good time, i don' have the $1200 to do a flat skid yet. But that doesn't make it's usefullness moot, I have been in another instance where I fell into a deep rut and high centered both axles, skid was still in the air. Used the hi lift to jack up the back end, tipped over the jack which put both tires cleanly on good traction and I drove out.
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My hi-lift paid for itself the first time I used it. It has been an invaluable tool for me over the years.

Safety is the name of the game. Never position yourself where you could get injured should the jack fall. NEVER work under a vehicle supported by a hi-lift. I see idiots using a hi-lift in place of a floor jack all the time & I just think to myself WTF are you thinking.

Keep them clean, dry & oiled up and they should last a lifetime.
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Maybe you should think about swapping the low hanging tcase skid and huge spacers for a flat skid that is actually durable.

I missed having my leg crushed by 1/2" due to a hi lift jack accident. I'd rather be stuck than use one of those jacks.
operator error or was it actually the hi-lifts fault?
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Agreed, we didn't use it to work under the jeep. Just to relieve pressure on the rock so we could use the shovel and pick to dig the rock out. Safety is key
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Nice, looks what my factory skid used to look like after a couple of runs in TSF . I used to press my skid back into shape every so often, then I got tired and finally switched my factory skid to a .25" plate, no more dents .

I would check your transmission mount, the last time I bent my skid like you did, I sheared the rubber on the transmission bracket, separating the bracket into 2 pieces.
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Thanks for the suggestion, I will take a look later. This experience deff has me considering the .25 over the 3/16!
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Yeah if thought out highlifts are valuable.
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Oh yeah, good story. I would never be without one either. Got my high lift on my 1st big Jeep outing.... The FrenchLick Jeep Jamboree in Indiana. Won the door prize! Best thing I ever won.
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Oh, gotta add this....
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I've had my Hi lift for 20 years. I have used it on the trail a dozen times, mostly to help someone else and at home to lift fence posts, tractors, etc. it's a great tool that demands respect.
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great write up! couldn't agree more - i don't go anywhere without my hi-lift...
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I carry a hi lift and openly admit that I may never need it. That being said if I even use it once I consider it paid for.

Now I'm just trying to determine where I want to mount it as I don't prefer the current location.
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where do you have it mounted at the moment?
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I carry a hi lift and openly admit that I may never need it. That being said if I even use it once I consider it paid for.

Now I'm just trying to determine where I want to mount it as I don't prefer the current location.
I recommend inside the Jeep, away form the elements. You can fab some mounts to fit the hi-lift on the sport bar right above the rear storage area behind the rear seat. Else, I believe they sell a kit out there.
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there are certain times when a Hi-Lift is the right tool for the job...and getting high centered on the skid is one of the few. but normally you can also avoid this problem with skillful driving.
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there are certain times when a Hi-Lift is the right tool for the job...and getting high centered on the skid is one of the few. but normally you can also avoid this problem with skillful driving.
things happen on the trail beyond any drivers control... sometimes rocks shift when you're wheeling... happened to me this weekend and i trashed my wire harness because of it...
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where do you have it mounted at the moment?
Right now it's on my TF tire carrier. Works well but i don't like how high the rotopax cans mount on it.

Am considering mounting to the sports bars but frankly that would be in my way as I load unload stuff in the back a lot when on trips.

Considering mounting in the hood. Not my ideal location but I want it mounted so that it's never in my way.
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i gotcha.. i have mine on the TF mount also. no rotopax though. can you mount the rotopax lower on the jack? or no?

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i gotcha.. i have mine on the TF mount also. no rotopax though. can you mount the rotopax lower on the jack? or no?

I'm running 2 2-gallons cans and have them mounted as low on the jack as they'll go. I went offroad with them mounted a few weeks ago and it all held up quite nicely, i'm just exploring other options.

Recently I heard some popping sounds coming from the back passenger corner and thought it was the mount/jack/cans so I removed them to see, but I'm still hearing the popping sounds on occasion

I'm thinking the tire carrier/jack mount may have come loose a bit on my offroad trip so this weekend I'm going to pull the bolts, re-apply some Loctite and see if it happens again.

If I can get rid of the popping I'll probably stay with this mount solution.

The thing I don't like about it is having the cans mounted to the jack. It's a clean mounting solution but if I ever have to use my jack then I'm probably not going to be in a good mood and having to remove the can mount from the jack is going to make me even more grumpy. LOL

the jack mount is sturdy, but I do wish it had some more reinforcement to prevent left/right sway
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i can appreciate that... i busted my wrist a few months ago, a guy busted his axle... used my jack - i was pretty grumpy trying to get my hi-lift off the mount with a bum wrist in a cast...

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Tractor supply sells an off brand highlift jack for $40-50 should I buy that or the name brand jack?
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The Hi-Lift is a great tool.

Always assume that a Hi Lift does not want to stay where you put it, and approach your use of it accordingly.
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Tractor supply sells an off brand highlift jack for $40-50 should I buy that or the name brand jack?
does it look like it's going to hold up? a farm jack is sort of a farm jack and the short answer is it's probably fine... as long as the pins work and it's sturdy... so many companies make them now-a-days...

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The Hi-Lift is a great tool.

Always assume that a Hi Lift does not want to stay where you put it, and approach your use of it accordingly.
you could say that again... they're feisty tools - but worth their weight in gold...


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