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Old 09-27-2012, 07:46 AM   #1
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How Many Wranglers Have Automatics Now?

This isn't supposed to be a thread about auto vs manual transmissions--which is "better"--as there are plenty of threads about that. I know there are advantages and disadvantages to both.

I'm just curious if anyone knows because I read that only about 7% of all vehicles sold currently have manual transmissions, but Wranglers seem to have a strong tradition of stick shift drivers. I looked at some new Jeeps on the lot last summer (just out of interest more than really thinking about buying new) and they said the manuals were kind of hard to find relative to selection of features and colors. The only one on the lot that I was otherwise interested in happened to have an automatic (which would suit my wife) but I ended up trading for a well used '02 with a manual 5 speed from a private party instead of a dealer.

Are Wranglers going the way of other non-commercial cars/trucks these days with a huge majority of automatic trannys?

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Old 09-27-2012, 08:56 AM   #2
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To answer your question is yes manual tranny's are going to the way side in general because they don't sell because the average American now can't drive one and so the market is going in that direction. Unfortunately I can see within the next 15yrs or so manuals disappearing in favor of auto's, but for me I will stick with a manual while my wife drives a auto but wants to learn a manual and hopefully that will happen and as for my daughter when she starts learning how to drive in about 14yrs she will start on a manual first.

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Old 09-27-2012, 09:07 AM   #3
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I think they will keep making standard just because when it comes to muscle cars manual is the way to go.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:36 AM   #5
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^^^^ No kidding, I don't thank any school still teaches manual tranny in driver's ed. I want to see an episode of Bait Car where someone tries to steal a stick.
(I had to stop some guy at a car wash from grinding up my synchros once. You'd think a qualification for one of their drivers would be able to drive anything.)

Anyway, I look on Edmunds at the JKs and they list 6 spd manual as standard, but I'm not seeing them on the lots around here very often. I enjoy driving a manual if the clutch action is good. The 5 speed, 4 cylinder Toyota Tacoma I used to have had a terrible grabby clutch. Never got used to it and eventually sold it. My TJ is a breeze. Very smooth.
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I have one of each and don't prefer one over the other. It is fun ti get in the manual every once in a while and shift, but on the other end it is really nice to just get in and wheel. Both of the Jeeps are fun to drive and I wouldnt exchange one for the other.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:36 PM   #7
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I'm guessing no more than 10%. I can drive and have had many manuals, yet prefer autos in anything but something like a true sports car. Every new Wrangler on the two lots I went to- all autos. So 10% may be generous.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:51 PM   #8
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10% at most seems about right. It wasn't so many years ago that was a reversed figure.
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Seems that way. Back in the day all could find was manual jeeps and the automatic was rare but times have changed
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Old 09-28-2012, 06:03 PM   #10
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My jeep is an automatic. When we stopped to look at it on the lot I opened the door and seen the auto shifter I shut the door and said let's go its an auto. To me a sports car and a jeep are supposed to be a stick shift. But I really liked everything else about the jeep and it was really taken care of so I got it and don't regret it. I grew up driving nothing but sticks but after I got married all I have had is autos.
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My jeep is an automatic. When we stopped to look at it on the lot I opened the door and seen the auto shifter I shut the door and said let's go its an auto. To me a sports car and a jeep are supposed to be a stick shift. But I really liked everything else about the jeep and it was really taken care of so I got it and don't regret it. I grew up driving nothing but sticks but after I got married all I have had is autos.
I did the exact same thing for two weeks straight. Finally picked up a nice 2011 6speed and I love it. I've thought of gettin an auto but I waited for the right one ha
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^^^ Don't let some low wattage driver at the car wash try to pull it in.
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Oh she won't be at the car wash ha. hand wash if anything. I hear ya though ha
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:53 PM   #14
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Having just went through the buying process this past week, I can tell you that usually, anything above the base model Sport, or over $28K has an automatic. And finding an automatic in a base model Sport was next to impossible.
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:43 PM   #15
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Well shoot. An auto is only an upgrade if you want an auto, but I guess they don't see it that way or the market is just that way now.
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i think i remember for the '12 year, it was less than 4% manual. autos don't belong in any vehicle that i own. it's such a relief going to europe because 95% of the cars are manual.

it also depends where you live. in oregon it seems at least 25% of the cars are manual. in california it was like 10%
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:40 AM   #17
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^^^ Younger population in OR maybe? I live in Iowa where we have the second oldest population average behind Florida. A nice place to live, but not where you move to to run around trails. People come to Iowa because they got a job transfer to some big financial institution or insurance company and they are here to raise kids. Almost all Jeeps and 4 x 4 truck are 4 door here.
But I digress, In Europe, besides higher fuel prices, most countries have pretty stringent driving skill and knowledge requirments to get a license...I suppose because of the traffic congestion. Maybe they have to know how to get a license.
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.. I'm really a Camaro person, and I have an automatic transmission in both my Jeep & The Camaro, because I live in a large metropolis, anyone that's lived in a "mega-city" will probably agree with me that a clutch is torture on your leg/feet/ankle in stop-and-go traffic. The "rollback" factor doesn't help either (disregarding modern things like Hill Assist), turning a nice drive into a fender-bender because the fool behind you leaves zero space between vehicles.

I chose an auto in my Jeep because I wanted what I consider a "real off-road vehicle", I call some others "FUVs" (Fake Utility Vehicles), with the flexibility to drive in heavily urbanized areas - this also allows me more options too if that urban area has a natural disaster or a crisis - a Jeep *will* get me and my family / friends out of harms way within reason, another vehicle won't.

Maybe some purists too don't like cruise control, Bluetooth phone access, satellite radio in their Jeep, but I embrace all this tech, I even keep a mobile hotspot in my vehicles (granted, I'm a techie/geek/engineer for a living) - its a modern world. It is kind of cool to have a tablet computer in a rugged container, take your Jeep someplace others can't go, snap that photo, edit it, and post it up on Flickr.

"Auto" whatever is just another expression of humanity's quest to automate just about everything... I would agree with the mechanical geeks that standard = simpler = better in a crisis. Reliability? Maybe not dead-even, but the tech is so popular (automatic transmission), the ubiquity is probably making it close now..
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i think i remember for the '12 year, it was less than 4% manual.
That wouldn't surprise me. When I bought my '12, the dealer couldn't find a manual in my color, with the options I wanted, in the entire Midwest. I mean, I wanted a black one. How difficult is that?

Milwaukee...none?

Chicago...none?

So I had em build me one.
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:17 PM   #20
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I'm pretty sure, all the jeeps that aren't manual are automatic.

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