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Old 01-20-2008, 08:01 AM   #1
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how much winch?

how much winch is needed? i just got a 93 wrangler that will be a work in progress. i am not use to off roading so how much winch is needed ? i dont for see myself doing any rock climbing in south carolina.

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Old 01-20-2008, 08:31 AM   #2
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At least double the weight you would be winching (8000 - 9500 lbs). You may not be crawling any rocks, but I bet you could find some sick mud holes! BTW, welcome to WF!

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yeah 8,000 to 9500 is what is generaly used for jeeps
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in deep mud 8.000 will not be enough. i have a 12.000 and only sometimes need a snatch block. a friend with a 8.000 winch needs a snatch block very often.
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Old 01-20-2008, 02:13 PM   #5
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I disagree. I have a 6000# and have been stuck in some pretty good holes. My Warn has never failed me.

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Old 01-20-2008, 02:26 PM   #6
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At least double the weight you would be winching
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my TJ weights about 5000 lbs (loaded). that means i need a 10.000 lbs winch that does 10000 lbs in all situations.
a 9000 lbs winch only does about 4000 lbs on the upper layer.
a 12000 lbs winch does about 6500 lbs on the upper layer. thatīs still not enough.
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Old 01-20-2008, 03:34 PM   #7
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I disagree. I have a 6000# and have been stuck in some pretty good holes. My Warn has never failed me.
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my warn pulled out the tractor part of a tractor trailer out of a ditch on the side of the road (9.5TI)

(probl. wasent smart but the guy told me he would buy me a new one if it broke)
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Old 01-20-2008, 03:54 PM   #8
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my winch pulled out a buddies unimog. another buddies tabor 9k wasnīt strong enough for that.
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Old 01-20-2008, 04:29 PM   #9
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A 12,000# winch is ridiculous overkill for a jeep. The added weight alone is a ton.

The Warn 9.5ti or any of the 9.5 series is plenty strong enough for a jeep. I have seen 3 Ramsey Winches self implode on the trail. We were stationed at a winch point when we were guides at Camp Jeep. The Warn kept going all day long. Ramsey, Black Mountain, SuperWinch, Milemarker are a waste of money.

In my opinion, if you want a winch to last forever, buy a Warn. Their customer service alone is unbeatable. I have rebuilt 4 winches, (cleaning them after disassembly), and Warn has faxed wiring diagrams, serial numbers, and anything else we needed. Warn is truly the best winch company out there.
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Old 01-20-2008, 04:52 PM   #10
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i know that warn makes the best electrical winches on the planet. but they are very expensive. and for me my 300$ china winch is good enough.

itīs slower than a warn, louder than a warn and the overheat protection comes on only after 20 minutes. but it pulls me out of the mud and thatīs all what i want.
my winch must not be the fastest on the world, i donīt drive competitions. i only need a reliable winch, and itīs reliable. covered with mud or inside some water, it always worked.

if i have enough money in the future i will buy a warn M8274-50.

EDIT: a 8k winch weights about 82 lbs and a 12k winch weights only 4 lbs more. that shouldnīt be a problem. (i have the weights from the milemarker website. they have many technical details on their site.
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Old 01-21-2008, 05:28 AM   #11
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All I know is a buddies brand new ramsey 8,000lb winch fried itself trying to get me out of a creek. A stock 92 GMC Jimmy pulled me right out after it fried itself.

Get a good winch, and go for the 9-9.5.
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Old 01-21-2008, 06:40 AM   #12
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thanks guys
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Old 01-21-2008, 11:16 AM   #13
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i've got a warn m8000 that has never let me down.

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