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Old 11-02-2008, 08:08 PM   #1
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Angry I can't find axles

i need a right side drop front axle to avoid flippin d300, finding a d44 out of waggy or something is super simple, but every waggy out there had an auto trans, and the matching rear axle is off center, rendering it useless.

i want d44's, i think d60's and gm corporates are too big, and long, any opinions? i'd do ford 8.8 in a heartbeat, but then what about the front?

i'm gonna run around 35" tire, and hit the rocks and tight trails.

what should i do? go with bigger axles to get the matching set w/ right side drop? suck it up and flip the 300? ford 8.8, and get special shafts to make a waggy d44 match the bolt pattern? (don't like that cuz if something breaks, you need special parts to repair) or 8.8/d44 with mismatched wheels? after weeks of searching and getting my hopes up to find the rear axles are wrong numerous times, i'm getting frustrated. i didn't think it would be hard to find axles.

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Old 11-02-2008, 08:46 PM   #2
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i know a guy with a pile of international scout IIs. i was going to go with a pair of scout 44s, i know he had 2 of them that had the 345 v8s and manual tranys. i know that 1 had 4.10-4.11 gears and the other was lower he said but i didnt see this for my self. if your willing to pay the shipping i will pull them for you

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Old 11-02-2008, 08:52 PM   #3
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i wouldn't mind driving to get them, but new york? jeeze, thats too far. how much does he want for them? shipping is probably a couple hundred dillas.
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So do the 8.8 and have a machine shop drill out the shafts and discs or drums for the bolt pattern you need?

Bad thing about Waggy rears is the no one really makes a set of alloy shafts for them. Going custom thru Moser etc... is about the only way to go.

What size tire you gonna run? If I was looking at going pass side drop I'd be hard pressed not to look at a Dodge Kingpin 60.
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:57 AM   #5
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i've thought about that, but i only wanna be around 35" tire. i want it to fit in my garage without airing down, or changing wheels , so i can just pull it in or out any time i'm in the mood to pavement pound it.

so i'm thinking d60's or gm corporates are just too big. what do you guys think?

so you're sayin do 8.8 rear, which i like, and d44 front? which axle should i have redrilled? what happens when you break something on the trail?
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:56 AM   #6
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unless your goin with boggers stay away from those gm corporate axles! i know a guy running 38s and he gets picked on for "sculpting" rock! a little big if you ask me. get a crystler 8 1/4, thats plenty big enough for 35's then just throw a cj7 d30 or find a tj 44 for the front!
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:14 AM   #7
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isnt the 8.25 just like a d35?

dave i plan on running 35s on my combo =D hp30/d44..

i couldnt see why a hp30/8.8 combo wouldnt work for you
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chyrsler 8.25 is marginally stronger than d35, not worth the effort to swap in i don't think.

i really want right side drop for my t case, thats why i'm avoiding the d30 front.

i guess the cj d30 is right side drop? maybe i could build one of those up, how strong are they when they're built up. my thing is i want my axles to be very strong, i'm a finess wheeler, i've never broke an axle, and i don't want to. i don't know, i need some answers, i need axles to keep going.

tj d44's must be plated with gold for what they sell for.
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take a d44 or d30 drivers drop and just grind off the spot welds on the tubes and reverse it all! its a simple rebuild for you and it would be cheap
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and then what, switch the knuckles from each side, cuz the knuckles would be backwards, and you have upper ball joint on the bottom right? i've thought about it, but is it doable. has anyone heard or seen it done
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your thinking too much about this dave. just go buy some axles and go from there, don't matter what they are just buy them!
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isnt the 8.25 just like a d35?

dave i plan on running 35s on my combo =D hp30/d44..

i couldnt see why a hp30/8.8 combo wouldnt work for you
That's exactly what I'm runnin.... 35's with high pinion D30 and an 8.8.
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bronco axles? 44 and 9 inch.. works good.
j10/j20 axles?
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:05 PM   #14
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bronco axles? 44 and 9 inch.. works good.
j10/j20 axles?
all the ford axles i've looked at are left side drop. is there a year of bronco's with right side drop?
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:23 PM   #15
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go find a cj dana 30 from 81 to 86 they were the wide track. same width as a yj. but cj dana 30s are different from yj and tj d30s they have heaver axle tubes and have the same knuckels and inner cs as the old 44s. i was going to do this but then decided to just flip a 300 and then got my 8.8, that will be good for me. all i want is 35s anyways cause i dont want to stretch my wheel base at all.

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Old 11-03-2008, 03:29 PM   #16
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^thanks man, anyone else got any input on cj d30? might be an option, what about rear then, what would match up, finding a centered d44 has been a pain.

edit: actually i have a line on cj d44 and d30 on a chassis, is there much support for these, upgraded shafts and so on? i dismissed this set cuz i didn't want a d30 but maybe they are an option. is the cjd44 as strong as the others?
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all the ford axles i've looked at are left side drop. is there a year of bronco's with right side drop?
all the broncos that were worth anything were all driver drop. just so you know they also had that oddball driver drop dana 20 t- case. if you could find one of those you could adapt it to your trans if you got that ambitious
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i know a guy with a pile of international scout IIs. i was going to go with a pair of scout 44s, i know he had 2 of them that had the 345 v8s and manual tranys. i know that 1 had 4.10-4.11 gears and the other was lower he said but i didnt see this for my self. if your willing to pay the shipping i will pull them for you
I agree the scout axles are probably your best bet, they are a great fit aside from a slight difference in track width but heck, you can't see it from my house.
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I agree the scout axles are probably your best bet, they are a great fit aside from a slight difference in track width but heck, you can't see it from my house.
i love that saying, i'm thinking more about cj axles, anyone got input on them for me?

hey 64panhead, anything yet on those scout axles?
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i called and he wasnt there but i was thinking that with the cost of shipping and freight cous of the weight and over all size it would be more costly than its worth. if the axle combo you are talking about from the cj is a 30 and 44 it would either be a 1973 and maybe a couple years older just before the dana 25 then they would be the narrow style and you dont want them. the only year you want is the 1986 this is the only year for a wide dana44, and 81 to 86 is the only for the wide track dana 30. there are a lot of advantages on these cj axles, you get locking hubs in the front with greasable bearings and the heavy tubes and inner c with the heaver spindles. the rear dana 44 is well a dana 44 the after market is full of s#!t the this axle.
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thanks man, thats what i needed to know

are all scout d44's good?
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u want the scout II dana 44 they are the wide version, the older scout 800 dad a dana 25 in front and a dana44 in rear they are narrow. the scout II dana 44s are really good they came with gears ranging from 4.10s all the way up to 5.13 from the factory, they also had some in the 3.?? but who wants them anyways.

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