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Old 12-11-2010, 12:19 PM   #1
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I'm a newb. Help me out :D

i'm looking into lifting my jeep and putting some new wheels on. i'm pretty new to the whole mechanics aspect of it.. but i really enjoy what i understand so far.. i just want to know what you all think and maybe give me some advice.. tell me what will work with what and what else i need to do or something of that nature.

this is what i want to do.


starting with....

these tires

Pro Comp 55031 - Pro Comp Xtreme All Terrain Radial Tire - Quadratec

on these rims..

CRAGAR Wheels 3975712 - CRAGAR Series 397 Soft 8 Black Wheel for Jeep® Vehicles with 5x4.5 Bolt Pattern - Quadratec

and im pretty sure ive got them matched up... let me know if im dumb

with this lift..

Skyjacker 4" Economy Lift Kit with Hydro Shocks for 03-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ - Quadratec



i think that should be okay for a while. im on a pretty tight budget haha i really wish i just had an insane amount of money to do this. but what do you think of that? is that okay to start off? do i need more? i've heard you can get some pretty bad vibrations and death wobbles and what not from lifting your jeep without getting a whole bunch of new stuff.. would i need like track bars and everything if i want to be secure on the road? and what about gears? should i upgrade them as well? lemme know whatcha think! i'm really excited to do this. i love my jeep

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and what about engine mods? should i look into intakes and exhaust for more hp if im going to get into wheeling a bit more??

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You sure you want to put 31's on a Jeep with 4" of lift? Bigger tires will look more proportional. But that means you'll want 15x8" wheels, not 15x7's, and as far as tires, look at some others and other places to purchase... I've heard Pro Comps wear very quickly, but have no experience with them myself. I love my Duratracs.... and I think pricewise you'll find they are comparable, if not less expensive. I can't comment about that lift, as I have no experience with it...

www.jegs.com has the best pricing I've found on soft 8's... and check your local tire dealers for pricing on wheels and tires... It's always nice to keep your $ local when possible...
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yeah this was just like a guideline. i don't think ill actually be purchasing anything online unless i really have to.. i think i meant to link the 33" tires... oh yeah the link just brings you to the page. the tires i was trying to match were the LT285/75R16. that would look good, right?
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That's a 33" tire, but it won't fit a 15" wheel..... Your wheel size and tire sizes have to be compatible.... i.e. 15" wheel for a 33x12.5x15" tire, or 285x75x16 for a 16" wheel...
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oh i was lookin at the 16" wheels as well haha the ... 16x7 5 on 4.5"... not really sure what all those numbers mean. i understand the 16(height)x7(width) but not sure about the rest
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The 5x4.5" is the bolt pattern. That is the correct pattern for a TJ (97-06) the bolt pattern for a JK (07+) is 5x5.... If the bolt pattern isn't correct for the application then adapters must be used, so make sure you buy the right bolt pattern. Also, the most common wheel width for a Wrangler application is 8" for up to a 12.5" wide tire. That width allows you to air down off road without so much worry loosing a bead. Any narrower will be to narrow for a tire wider than 10.5".....

Edit: As far as engine mods go, skip them. They don't help enough to justify the cost...
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so in other words, go wider? haha. so the 16x8" 5 on 4.5" would be good for the 33.1x11.3"? i think im getting the wheels down :P
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Yes. And you might want to look at a 12.5" wide tire, depending on your needs and desires....
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soo.. the 35x12.5 R15's on the 15x7 5 on 4.5's? again, this is just like a guideline.. but you think i should get 35's?
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4 cyl or 6 cyl, auto or stick? How much experiance do you have offroad driving?
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Keep in mind that sticking with a 15inch wheel will prob make your tires a little cheaper, maybe not in all cases but most
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id go with a 33x12.5'' tire on a 15x8 rim with a 3.75 backspacing.. itll look like such.. and btw i dont have a 4'' lift

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4 cyl or 6 cyl, auto or stick? How much experiance do you have offroad driving?
Inline 6, 6 speed manual. I really dont have that much experience.. I like to roam through the woods around my house. You think 4 inches would be too much? I feel like i cant go anywhere with my stock height.. Im afraid to try going bigger (like real off road trails) and that im going to crack an axle or bend a track bar or something like that
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i could be wrong but i didnt think you could fit 35s on 4inch lift. plus you would probably want stronger axles if your going to wheel it.
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Inline 6, 6 speed manual. I really dont have that much experience.. I like to roam through the woods around my house. You think 4 inches would be too much? I feel like i cant go anywhere with my stock height.. Im afraid to try going bigger (like real off road trails) and that im going to crack an axle or bend a track bar or something like that
You can go all sorts of places stock..... You need to get out there and wheel it, get stuck, then you'll know what you need for what you want to do... My TJ amazed us when it was stock..... it went everywhere the bigger boys went with no problem....
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id go with a 33x12.5'' tire on a 15x8 rim with a 3.75 backspacing.. itll look like such.. and btw i dont have a 4'' lift

Damn thats one of the purrtiest Jeeps on the forum....

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I really appreciate all the feedback. Maybe ill just keep her stock for a bit.. Or go with the 33 on 15's as mentioned. Give it a bit more clearance..
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35s can fit on a 4'' lift.. not recommended.. but itll work for a less serious offroader..

as for your comment you dont think you can go anywhere with your stock jeep.. have you tried? a stock jeep is amazing.. lifting it makes it even better..

for 33s.. go with a 3'' lift.. if you need more clearance.. add a bodylift.. a 4'' will cost a TON more than just the lift price.. you'll need adjustable control arms and a sye/ds
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35s can fit on a 4'' lift.. not recommended.. but itll work for a less serious offroader..

as for your comment you dont think you can go anywhere with your stock jeep.. have you tried? a stock jeep is amazing.. lifting it makes it even better..

for 33s.. go with a 3'' lift.. if you need more clearance.. add a bodylift.. a 4'' will cost a TON more than just the lift price.. you'll need adjustable control arms and a sye/ds
I guess i should just balls up and see how far my jeep can go? hah theres a pretty sweet trail ive been wanting to go down but too afraid i might get stuck haha
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I guess i should just balls up and see how far my jeep can go? hah theres a pretty sweet trail ive been wanting to go down but too afraid i might get stuck haha
never go out on a trail alone.. learned that the hard way.. me and 2 buddies took my jeep out and left their trucks at my buddies.. middle of winter at about 10 degrees..

a stock jeep is very fun.. especially if youve never tried it out.. ive always wanted a big ol lift on my jeep.. but after years of offroading it stock.. im at about 3.5'' maybe a lil higher including my bl.. with 33s.. and i love it
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never go out on a trail alone.. learned that the hard way.. me and 2 buddies took my jeep out and left their trucks at my buddies.. middle of winter at about 10 degrees..

a stock jeep is very fun.. especially if youve never tried it out.. ive always wanted a big ol lift on my jeep.. but after years of offroading it stock.. im at about 3.5'' maybe a lil higher including my bl.. with 33s.. and i love it
So ride it stock for a while, i should? (yoda??) then when im comfortable wheeling go bigger? Should i be worried riding stock about my axles getting caught and such?
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Your axles are gonna get caught riding higher too...the only thing that lifts your axles up higher is raising your tire size...so even if you're running a 29" tire and you move up to 33" tires, you're only lifting your axles up 2".
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Your axles are gonna get caught riding higher too...the only thing that lifts your axles up higher is raising your tire size...so even if you're running a 29" tire and you move up to 33" tires, you're only lifting your axles up 2".
True.. Anything i should be really worried about getting damaged? I know theres some vital steering parts up front.. My dad may have even bent a track bar a couple months ago. Is this common?
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Underbody armor. Front diff, oil pan, engine, and a winch. If you plan on strange trails you should look at the km2 tires with kevlar. 31 inch tires and you won't have all the problems with rubbing w/o a lift. Mods should be done to fit the type of wheelin that you enjoy the most. All of the forms have different requirements, rock crawling, mudding, trails, etc...... when you know more about what you like the mods you need will scream at you. When you are low in the offroad skills it's a little nuts to raise the center of gravity and make a vehicle less stable. As you gain skills things like lockers will be desireable as will other mods.

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