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Old 07-19-2010, 10:06 PM   #1
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It's A Jeep, Fix it yourself.

I was just wondering why so many people on this forum don't do their own work on their Jeeps? I've been noticing quite a lot of people telling others to take their Rigs to a shop to pay someone else to do all the work for them, even if it's the easy job of changing a couple of U-joints. It's a jeep! it doesn't get much easier than that, all you got to do is buy the Haynes Manual and basically follow the steps. What happens if something breaks and they are a hundred miles from nowhere, no cell service and not a soul around? Taking the jeep to a shop and learning nothing for yourself sure won't help you then.

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I think the main reason is that people don;t have the required tools, for instance I don't have a press to press in u-joints. I know how to replace them with a hammer but I don't like breaking bearings

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Tools and time. I do all I can, but as a daily driver, I don't always have room for error to screw something up. Mainly tools like Vaultzz said. The more I collect though, the more I do myself. This forum has helped me become way more self-sufficient.
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I have done all the mods to my TJ with the exception of the new Solid Axle covers. It was way too hot and I didn't feel like smelling old stinky axle fluid.
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some people don't have mechanical ability. or they may not have a place to work on the rig. then I could ask the question, why don't you do your own machining. I can, doesn't every body have a lathe and mill? plus I'm thankfull everyone can't, I make extra cash working on other peoples cars.
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I'm pretty handy at swapping my valve stem caps !!

Although the last time I didit, I crossthreaded my front drivers side--rats

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I could also paint the outside of my own house, cut my own hair and listen to my wife rant for an hour (which would save me $100), among other things, but I would much rather pay someone else to do it.

Oh, I rotated my own tires the other day!
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If I paint my own house, cut my own hair, make my own seat covers and take all the junk off my Jeep, does that excuse me from actually fixing stuff on it myself? I have no clue how to do that stuff... so I bribe a buddy when ever possible
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I'm pretty handy at swapping my valve stem caps !!

Although the last time I didit, I crossthreaded my front drivers side--rats

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Do you recommend side to side or front to back swap on those caps JIMBO ?

When I bought my jeep with 66K on it I changed the plugs and wires, oil, and manual tranny fluid. There is something satisfying about doing easy stuff yourself. You know it was done right. I also replaced the melted climate switch connector with the help of this forum and a factory service manual.
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Do you recommend side to side or front to back swap on those caps JIMBO ?

When I bought my jeep with 66K on it I changed the plugs and wires, oil, and manual tranny fluid. There is something satisfying about doing easy stuff yourself. You know it was done right. I also replaced the melted climate switch connector with the help of this forum and a factory service manual.
I'm gonna go get a "CHILTON", cause I can't find anything in the mauual !!

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I've been noticing quite a lot of people telling others to take their Rigs to a shop to pay someone else to do all the work for them,.
Hmmm interesting... most of the posts and pages I've read thru are people telling others how to fix the issue or how to diagnois or find the issue.

It's up to the people asking the questions, weather they work on it themselves or bring it in to fix.
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:09 AM   #12
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It's all personal preference. Some like to wrench on their rides, others don't. Neither one is wrong. I personnally enjoy working on my Jeep, that is why I got back into them. However, it's also good to have a reputable mechanic on yer speed dial...
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I do what I can, but not all. For example, I can change my U joints, no need for any special tools. but it's because I was taught how to do it from someone else long ago on another vehicle. If everyone on here tried to DIY, without some supervision then we would have alot of messed up stuff because some things require skills that the average amateur doesn't have. I'm not knocking anyone, and I'm not saying I can do it any better, I've seen what happens when someone tries to work on something and they have no clue about what they are doing. It's because they've never done it before.
There are very few people that can do it all and have the resources available to do such. I'm surprised that escapes you.

Instead of whining about why people should work on their own vehicles, why not put your "knowledge" to good use and create some detailed how to threads for others to learn.

I can rotate my own tires also, but anyone that has tried lifting some of the larger tires knows how much of a back breaker that is, so for under $20 I take it to a local tire shop and have them do it. that's twenty bucks well spent IMO.

Also, It seems alot of people have more money than they know what to do with when it comes to Jeeps, always looking to buy stuff for it, modify it, I think if they have that much money then they can go out and either pay to have it fixed or buy the equipment to do it with.
I hope some of the younger members will try and learn. Some Jeeps are great to start learning on and it will help them in the long run.
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I agree with the TBell. I try as with much as I can. It all depends for me if I want to put up with the headache and I am not mechanically inclined.
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:38 AM   #16
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some things...... there is no way in hell I would touch even though I have the tools and knowledge to do so. The one tool I do not have, and it can't be bought or borrowed, is patience. My bad, I know, but I know my own limits and sometimes it's better to let someone else just do it. I tried for over an hour one day trying to do a simple thing on a vehicle. I was frustrated, I had to walk away in defeat. I took it to a friend and he did it in 5 minutes.

On another vehicle I needed to change the water pump. Simple task but when you open the Haynes manual and it says remove the front tire, timing chain, etc.... well, it's time to call in the Calvary.
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Having a newer model for me it depends on what's wrong with it and if my warranty will cover the repairs. For the most part I'm covered but if I broke down in the backroads where a tow truck won't go up here then I'm happy to have enough knowledge to gerry-rig it and get it out. That being said I always carry a set of basic tools with me.
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One of they best ways too for leanring how to fix things and work on your own rig is by finding a local jeep club or offroad club in the area. Plus most clubs are always willing to help out and teach the ropes of wheeling offroad as well as tips/trick for working on vehicles as well especially if something happens while out on the trail.

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I was just wondering why so many people on this forum don't do their own work on their Jeeps? I've been noticing quite a lot of people telling others to take their Rigs to a shop to pay someone else to do all the work for them, even if it's the easy job of changing a couple of U-joints. It's a jeep! it doesn't get much easier than that, all you got to do is buy the Haynes Manual and basically follow the steps. What happens if something breaks and they are a hundred miles from nowhere, no cell service and not a soul around? Taking the jeep to a shop and learning nothing for yourself sure won't help you then.
It depends on the job. I'll generally recommend that someone do it themselves unless it is one of these jobs: engine rebuild, transmission rebuild, re-gearing an axle, narrowing an axle, or welding because of the complexity of the job and the special tools required to complete the job.

I do ALL my own work. No one works on my Jeep but me and a couple of trusted friends, oh and my Dad. There is literally only a handful of jobs that I can't do like engine block machining, re-splining shafts, balancing drive shafts, etc... I like to encourage fellow Jeepers to do their own work because if you're out on the trail and experience a breakage you'll have an understanding of how to fix it rather than have Joe Blow in the Toyota behind you tell you how to incorrectly fix the problem. That and it saves you some coin.
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. I like to encourage fellow Jeepers to do their own work because if you're out on the trail and experience a breakage you'll have an understanding of how to fix it rather than have Joe Blow in the Toyota behind you tell you how to incorrectly fix the problem. That and it saves you some coin.
LOL! This is yet another reason to make sure you are wheeling with at least one other Jeep, ideally someone more knowledgeable than you....
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Im definitely going to try and learn as much as I can, and start slowly. My dad is in the carpentry trade and is beyond handy with cars so I'll have a decent amount of exposure to useful tools. Im just scared (hey, im honest) that I'll mess something up... especially since I don't own this yet and will be making car payments for 5 years.
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I was just wondering why so many people on this forum don't do their own work on their Jeeps? I've been noticing quite a lot of people telling others to take their Rigs to a shop to pay someone else to do all the work for them, even if it's the easy job of changing a couple of U-joints. It's a jeep! it doesn't get much easier than that, all you got to do is buy the Haynes Manual and basically follow the steps. What happens if something breaks and they are a hundred miles from nowhere, no cell service and not a soul around? Taking the jeep to a shop and learning nothing for yourself sure won't help you then.
Why doesn't everyone fix their own computer problems? It's way easier, and takes a lot less tools. The problem is, time and knowhow. If you don't have the time, the know how, or the gumption to learn the know how, then you won't do it. Or you will do it once, screw it up, cost yourself more money, and end up paying someone else to do it. I myself am not mechanically inclined. I have a good friend who is, and have learned a lot in the past 3 months about the stuff that makes my jeep run (recently swapped the trans out 3 times, rear main leak, clutch swap, etc.). and I fix all my own pc's, and build them. but i've ran into hundreds of people who can't grasp ctrl c, so it shouldn't be a huge shock that people can't get that about working on cars. Aside from the space and tools required. Doing the trans job we used just about every size metric and sae socket and open box, a torque wrench, floor jacks, bench vice, drain pump, and a bunch of other crap i can't think of. my friend's truck won't fit in his garage, so we had space. i couldn't have done it at my house. my 2 car garage has 3 vehicles in it. and i don't like my stuff outside.
so please, continue to work on your jeep, as i will try on mine, and others will if they can, or drop the coin.

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what about nukes? it's just science. everyone took science in school. so we should all be able to do stuff like that, right?

lol.

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I could add my thoughts but everyone has covered them above. I must say that I do a lot of things on my own which makes me feel less guilty when I take it in for some of the more dirty, difficult things to do. I used to do a lot of things but now time and the cost of my time is more valuable to me. I let the professional do my difficult things so I can enjoy my time better.
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I have a feeling the OP hasn't actually read many posts on this forum.

Most here do much of their own work.
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compared to most other car owners, jeep owners do a great, great, great deal more than anyone else. even people who are into tuners don't do their own work, unless its installing a cold air intake... but I feel a lot of that has to do with the lack of clearance and access to mechanical lifts. Tough to replace an exhaust on your own on a car that has 10 inches of ground clearance.
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Tough to replace an exhaust on your own on a car that has 10 inches of ground clearance.
damn, what cars do you have that have that much ground clearance
a stock TJ has about 10 inches of clearance
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yea 10" is insane on a rice burner.
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yea 10" is insane on a rice burner.
nobody move, or the panda gets it.

or will it get us if we don't move? well, at any rate, that panda looks like he's had a rough day, so i'd steer clear of him.

he probably drives a liberty

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compared to most other car owners, jeep owners do a great, great, great deal more than anyone else. even people who are into tuners don't do their own work, unless its installing a cold air intake... but I feel a lot of that has to do with the lack of clearance and access to mechanical lifts. Tough to replace an exhaust on your own on a car that has 10 inches of ground clearance.
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