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Old 10-03-2013, 02:05 PM   #1
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Jeepers vs Jeep drivers

The good thing about owning a Jeep is that there are a lot of parts out there, and they are pretty easy to work on.
I am always ordering a new part, tearing something off, retouching paint, and always stop to admire or admonish other Jeeps. I consider myself a Jeeper. In the same way I don't just buy beer and drink it; I tour pubs, drink as many different kinds, learn about different ingredients and techniques, and brew my own. Thus, I also consider myself a brewer (a damn good one, too).

I love working on my TJ. I'm doing a lot of fixing of crap that the previous drivers neglected.... Which brings me to my frustration - Jeep drivers.

This isn't about "Jeep waving" either. It's about people who get a Jeep, one way or another, and it is nothing but a car to them. They don't take the time to learn how to operate it, never had the doors off, never had the top off, or just plain don't care about basic Jeep courtesies (such as vehicle preservation, community, etc). Why or why not?

Please, Jeep drivers, if you are not going to enjoy a Jeep for what it really is, trade it in and buy yourself a Ford Escape.

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The good thing about owning a Jeep is that there are a lot of parts out there, and they are pretty easy to work on.
I am always ordering a new part, tearing something off, retouching paint, and always stop to admire or admonish other Jeeps. I consider myself a Jeeper. In the same way I don't just buy beer and drink it; I tour pubs, drink as many different kinds, learn about different ingredients and techniques, and brew my own. Thus, I also consider myself a brewer (a damn good one, too).

I love working on my TJ. I'm doing a lot of fixing of crap that the previous drivers neglected.... Which brings me to my frustration - Jeep drivers.

This isn't about "Jeep waving" either. It's about people who get a Jeep, one way or another, and it is nothing but a car to them. They don't take the time to learn how to operate it, never had the doors off, never had the top off, or just plain don't care about basic Jeep courtesies (such as vehicle preservation, community, etc). Why or why not?

Please, Jeep drivers, if you are not going to enjoy a Jeep for what it really is, trade it in and buy yourself a Ford Escape.
How does it affect you in any way at all what other people choose to do with their own vehicle? I wheel the crap out of mine, and enjoy changing parts etc to make it unique. My wife's jeep has never been off road, only sees 4wd if there is snow on the road, and other than some stickers is completely stock. Despite your scorn, she enjoys her jeep as much as I do mine.
I'm glad that there are tons of people who have street queen jeeps, someday all of those pristine parts will be available on the used market...
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A class war with jeeps? Who knew!?!?!? /grabs popcorn to enjoy this evenings entertainment.
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:31 PM   #6
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I'm a Jeep driver, not a Jeeper. I don't associate myself with any real world culture these days. Having the Jeep is enough for me. I don't feel like I belong to some exclusive group. I've always felt this way. I've ridden Harley's for decades, but I won't wear anything with a Harley emblem on it. I'm just funny like that, I guess. Doesn't mean I don't love my Jeep any less than anyone else.

Being from a small town (700 people), I wave at everyone already.
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:39 PM   #8
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For the record, I have nothing against people who identify as jeepers. It's just a weird labeling thing I have. Take the harley thing. I've ridden for years, even wore a 3 piece patch for a while. I never referred to or considered myself a "biker". I'm weird like that.
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According to your forum level you are a 'newb', like me
What happens if you are an avid off roader, but would rather spend the money on a qualified mechanic when something goes awry on the trail?
Why should my Jeep suffer under my mechanically incompetent hands when there are many qualified people around.
I don't do my own dental work either, I just prefer to be a chewer.
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Off Roader/ Jeeper/ Dirt Biker = Professional Power Sprayer/ Car washer!! Damn mud just won't stay off my vehicles! Am I wrong??? It don't matter what I drive. My wife's Jetta, my Silverado or my 08' JK..... Damn Mud!!!!!!
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I'm just gonna get some pizza and beer and watch this one unfold
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I'd like to offer a different view which I feel is applicable. As a motorcycle rider of 37 years... in the MC hobby you ALWAYS find that bike that someone bought, garaged, and never used. (no oil changes, lotsa dust, tires little cracked, no upgrades, etc... you get da point.) To me, as a MC enthusiast its hitting the lottery!!! Perfect bike to buy, mod out, upgrade, enjoy and then flip. Why would it cause frustration? Glass is half-full everyday - find the positive Sir. I would say this is 'unsolicited advice' buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut, well you did start a thread - bottoms up!

As a side note I'ma beer drinking god of sorts! Never tried brewing it... any "startup kits" that are better than others?
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I understand the difference you are trying to make between 'jeepers' and 'jeep drivers' but I think it's unfair. Some people just enjoy the look of a jeep and enjoy driving it everyday on paved roads. It's not their passion, they might not like working on it or changing anything about it. My dad is a man who wouldn't go offroad(unless it was to go hunting) and wouldn't take the top or sides off a jeep, but he loves how my jeep drives. So even though he might not be what you consider a 'jeeper', we're still looking for a jeep for him cause that's what he likes. So overall, to each their own.

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I'm just saying that I find frustration in Jeep owners who have no regard for what a Jeep is. It would be akin to the Harley analogy. If you are going to go buy a Harley, you should probably know a little bit about what a Harley is. They are certainly not just "a motorcycle". Now, consider someone who got a hog and just let it rot to the bones, or mechanically deteriorate due to lack of care. Even a non-Harley owner, with any respect for what the Harley heritage is, should cringe at that thought.

I am not saying that what someone does with their Jeep, or bike, or woman, or anything affects me directly. It's just a shame. Same thing goes for a Jeep, in my mind at least. They are not just "a car", in my mind at least.

I too have a Jeep that will probably never see a trail, and another to get me to the fishing hole. It's not between road queens and mud slingers. It's about the difference in people who are connected with their rigs, clean or dirty, and the others that let the salt and acid rain kill an innocent Jeep.
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So for how long have you had this vision that everyone should be like you?
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What's the big deal? It's just a car.

You are just asking for it lol
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Old 10-03-2013, 06:46 PM   #22
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My 2 cents....diversity. Life would be boring without it.
But hey, that's what makes the jeeping community so great..... we get what it's about, we share a passion even with all of our differences.
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I somewhat understand what the OP is talking about. He is frustrated about people who buy the jeep just to have something to drive. Without actually caring what it is. Like around here people buy jeeps because they are cheap... you can get a 90s grand cherokee for as little as $1000 if you look enough. Not because its a jeep, but just because it moves and they can afford it.

Then they drive the wheels off of it and when it breaks and wears out, they make it look better than it is to sell it to the next guy...

I once had a truck that was owned by someone like that. Must have put $3000 into it trying to get it back on the road. It was owned by some rich kid whose mommy and daddy bought it for him to haul his race bike. It was a nice, hard to find truck, but was so grossly neglected it was ridiculous.
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I'm a Jeep driver, not a Jeeper. I don't associate myself with any real world culture these days. Having the Jeep is enough for me. I don't feel like I belong to some exclusive group. I've always felt this way. I've ridden Harley's for decades, but I won't wear anything with a Harley emblem on it. I'm just funny like that, I guess. Doesn't mean I don't love my Jeep any less than anyone else.

Being from a small town (700 people), I wave at everyone already.


Go team mammal - the rest is a distraction.

And I love that my (at the time) 17 year old Jeep still had the stock... well, everything. Even carpet.
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Ok, I got this figured out

I wasn't a biker because I just enjoyed riding my Harley around town. I'm not a Jeeper because I just like how Jeeps look, and I can drop the top and still run over things unlike a car convertible. Oh well, I guess I'll just keep being my awesome individual self that does I want because I want to.
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So, what vehicles are acceptable to buy to have something you enjoy to drive, and which ones require certain lingo, behavior, and rules?
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So, what vehicles are acceptable to buy to have something you enjoy to drive, and which ones require certain lingo, behavior, and rules?
Why would you buy something you wouldn't want to drive?
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Why would you buy something you wouldn't want to drive?
Maybe I mis-worded it...
Some people buy a vehicle for the simple reason that they like it, and enjoy driving it. This seems to offend some of the members here. What I was asking is can they provide a list of which vehicles are ok to have just because you like it, and which ones require that you follow all of the community rules
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I have a friend, great guy, whose jeep hasn't had the top off since it was new. I also have a 1940 something D2 caterpillar that hasn't moved in years, also 1942 sc case tractor, 9n ford tractor and a few other items that I just plain keep. Last spring I picked up a 2000 Jeep, burry it in the mud and enjoy it to the max. To each his own, do what you want with it.

Forgot to mention the Harley that hasn't been started in two years.
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I'll admit it.
I only drive a jeep to make me look good.

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