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Old 07-29-2008, 11:28 AM   #1
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just don't let her flip it-help with feedback

I have gotten so many reactions from other people when i tell them that my daughter wants the 4 door wrangler- i assume it's from back in the old days when they did flip and it was often. I keep telling all of these people that Jeep has improved them and they are as safe as most cars out there. any other good feedback I can tell these people!!

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Old 07-29-2008, 11:35 AM   #2
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Why do you care what other people think? You don't have to explain your choice to anyone.

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Old 07-29-2008, 11:42 AM   #3
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I have gotten so many reactions from other people when i tell them that my daughter wants the 4 door wrangler- i assume it's from back in the old days when they did flip and it was often. I keep telling all of these people that Jeep has improved them and they are as safe as most cars out there. any other good feedback I can tell these people!!
x2- If you want to make yourself feel better, look at the safety reports. All modern vehicles have to pass minimum DOT safety standards. Now, if you were buying an older '65 CJ, I would caution you on a few not-so-safe items.

The other people are just envious and criticize your ideas. Just askl anyone who owns one and take a few out for a spin to build you confidence. Not sure if the new offer side air bags, but if that's an option, I would buy them.
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Jeeps are unique vehicles and some of the older Jeeps did have high center of gravity issues, however if handled correctly the vehicle won't flip. There is even a warning sticker on the sunvisor that warns the driver not to make erratic maneuvers in the vehicle.

Hell, ANY car can be flipped, just ask Tommy (whom I went to high school with) that managed to flip 3 cars in one year.

I have been in or around Jeeps for a big chink of my life and have only ever seen one flip during normal driving and it was during an ice storm back east that the driver was going to fast for the conditions I just happened to be riding on the side it flopped over on.

The point is, ANY vehicle can be dangerous. And, you can not drive a Jeep 90 mph into a 90 degree turn. Stop and think of how many SUV's you have seen on a rollback with roll over damage... It's not just jeeps.
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:47 AM   #5
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thanks- I agree totally- it's just that I am tired of hearing - are they safe??? we had a range rover flip a week or so ago - all seatbelts worn- one died- all teens- I know that any car can flip but maybe these other fools don't!!
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:58 AM   #6
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tell em kids are fun to make, and you can always get another. that way, they'll no longer be on their soapbox about your kid having a jeep, they'll step onto another higher soapbox about you being a monster....but hey, at least the jeep will not be under attack

disclaimer: obviously im not suggesting that you or anyone would MEAN this, but its fun to screw with people and see their reactions. my wife HATES me for this
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:21 PM   #7
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just remembered this too- her driver lessons man said he approved of the 4 door wrangler -said it was safer than the Jeep Liberty that he takes them in for lessons!!
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:27 PM   #8
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The longer the wheelbase, the less prone the vehicles are to oversteering conditions and rollover. The shorter wheelbase (2dr vs 4dr) is more of a handful.

Just remember, roll cage, air bags and a box frame make for a very strong - safe vehicle.

However, it's all useless if the seatbelts are not worn properly.

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tell em kids are fun to make, and you can always get another. that way, they'll no longer be on their soapbox about your kid having a jeep, they'll step onto another higher soapbox about you being a monster....but hey, at least the jeep will not be under attack

disclaimer: obviously im not suggesting that you or anyone would MEAN this, but its fun to screw with people and see their reactions. my wife HATES me for this
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: rofl:

Gotta remember that one.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:39 PM   #10
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x2 - that was good. I'll have to remember to use that one.
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This family of Wrangler is no where near what the older CJ's were. First off AMC offered the CJ 5 and 7 in a 304 V8 and narrow trac axle setup until 1982. So yeah there were a fair share of street flops with that setup. The 4 door JK is probably 10 inches wider than the CJ's were and being the 4 door I think it's something like a 115" wheelbase. CJ's were sheet springs and JK's are coil/link with trac bars and sway bars. So honestly the only thing in common between those two versions is that they both said Jeep on them.

Your baby girl will be much safer in a 4 door JK than in a Miata or Honda.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:47 PM   #12
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OK- we went and test drove a 4 door today - i thought it was just OK- she loved it!! I felt like I was riding in a box and it was hot- it was the hottest part of the day -of course the salesman said that's part of the fun of a jeep- anyway Overall I thought it rode surprisingly well- we drove on interstate also- he gave me a great deal under $20,000 for a 2007 wrangeler x 4 door- i told him we'd think on it -heading to beach and we'll see if it's still there when we get back !! if not- there will be others- we also went to the jeep dealeship next door and he recommended buying a new for the lifetime warranty - but I really was trying to spend around $20,000- they are all listed around 27,000- what do ya'll think about the LT warranty?
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:06 PM   #13
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I think the lifetime drive train warranty is great. Not worth 7,000 difference in price. You can purchase an extended warranty/service plan through Chrysler/Jeep for about a thousand dollars. I just paid 809 for mine to extend the 3yr 36,000 bumper-to-bumper to 7 years/70,000. That was directly through Chrysler waranties. Your dealer will probably offer you one for a lot more. Don't do it. You can get them cheaper by shopping around. If you get the Jeep, let me know and I'll get you the contact information.
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:51 PM   #14
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X2 on what's already been said. But what might be a good idea is to sign up your daughter for an off-road safety class. Granted she may not ever go off-road but it'll help her get used to how the jeep reacts on different surfaces.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:02 PM   #15
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They did make 2 and 4 wheel drive Jeeps in those years so watch for that also.
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thanks- I agree totally- it's just that I am tired of hearing - are they safe??? we had a range rover flip a week or so ago - all seatbelts worn- one died- all teens- I know that any car can flip but maybe these other fools don't!!
Discoveries seem to be prone to this, low speed too, friends have flopped 3 back over that I know of in the past 2 years with their TJ's and winches .
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They did make 2 and 4 wheel drive Jeeps in those years so watch for that also.
Yea, you should make sure it's a 4wd, 2wd wranglers are kind of dumb...

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