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Old 11-19-2007, 09:31 PM   #1
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Looking for a jeep

I am new to the jeep world. And Im not really sure what I am looking for. I would like to get something newer than a 2000. And I have no idea what the tj cj jk tj.. . What do they mean. Also what about the Jeep sport or sahara or rubicon or X or unlimited or SE. Thanks all I can think of.

You may already have all of this in a post and some how I missed it. And I most likely did.

Woohoo 1st post.

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Old 11-19-2007, 09:36 PM   #2
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You want a TJ Welcome to the forums

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Old 11-19-2007, 09:40 PM   #3
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ya i kinda figured that. Can You tell me what the rest of the stuff means. There has to be a post with it. Or am I the only 100%noob to jeeps?
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There is a post about this somewhere. I remember seeing it. Try search. I'm lazy.
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search what tj cj jk are to short.
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you want this jeep. 00-01 were the best years for a TJ.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/sale/fs...-ks-12775.html
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:03 PM   #9
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......00-01 were the best years for a TJ.......
This is of course a matter of opinion! But the link is to a very nice Jeep.
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prove me wrong? 02 and newer you have to put up with the stupid sluggish motor. /story
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:09 PM   #11
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prove me wrong? 02 and newer you have to put up with the stupid sluggish motor. /story
what makes the '02 or newer sluggish? I haven't heard that before.
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what makes the '02 or newer sluggish? I haven't heard that before.
I'm not 100% sure. I've read PCM, cats, and blah blah blah. But I can tell a tremendous difference behind the wheel. I have a buddy with an 04, bald 33" BFG A/Ts 3.73s vs. my wifes 00 on heavy 35" toyo MTs, and same gears and I walk away from him every time. I know without a doubt her jeep weighs more than his.
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Great I will look for a 2000 or 01. Any info on the sahara vs sport. ??
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:56 AM   #14
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I seen you said you get 10 mpg. I know a lifted jeep is not for mpg. But what would something with 33s get.

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Great I will look for a 2000 or 01. Any info on the sahara vs sport. ??
Sahara is nothing more than a sport with a dress up kit, painted flares, different seat covers, no real mechanical differences, except it's more likely to have a Dana 44 rear end, which is desirable and available in a Sport, so keep your eyes open. It's the one that looks kinda like a flat stop sign and has a metal drain plug, the other rear end is more round and has a rubber plug.

Oh, and BTW, if you buy that Jeep of Mr. Cliffords, you will be getting a monster, one which you should treasure, cuz you'll be hard pressed to replace it if you ever let it go!
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prove me wrong? 02 and newer you have to put up with the stupid sluggish motor. /story
Prove you wrong...........because you make a sweeping generalization about the newer engines.........no, you have only expressed an opinion that is not backed up by any fact, just your impression.

However, your comments were enough for me to do some research. There is a difference between the 4.0 liter in a 2000 Wrangler and a 2003 Wrangler.

2000 Wrangler: 181 hp @ 4600 rpm and 222 lb-ft of torque @ 2800 rpm

2003 Wrangler: 190 hp @ 4600 rpm and 235 lb-ft of torque @ 3200 rpm

At first glance the later model engine would seem to have the advantage in both hp and torque, 5% more hp and 6% more torque. I don't know if you can "feel" a difference of 5% or not, but the numbers suggest the new engine is more powerful. However, I believe the interesting part of this comparison is the engine rpm at which each produces it's peak torque.

Due to the fact that the older engine makes it's torque at a lower rpm, it just might be producing more at some given road speed than the new engine will. This could result in the older engine performing better under certain circumstances, depending on gearing, tire size, and engine speed. But without testing two of these side by side with all variables being equal, who knows?

I think the best advice anyone can give you is to decide what your budget will allow you to spend and buy whichever Jeep fits your personal criteria the best. Then enjoy it. There is nothing like a Jeep.
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:16 AM   #17
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Personally if I am going over a big rock or other obstacle that has a downside I'd prefer the engine to be grunting at a lower rpm so I don't suck the seat cover up as I go over the top...then try to slow down...

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