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Old 03-19-2014, 08:18 PM   #1
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Looking for a suspension lift class

So I have been doing some research on suspension lifts and frankly im getting a little overwhelmed on how much there is out there and what is needed vs isn't, why certain things are included in some suspension lift packages vs not (E.G. replacement short arms vs just shocks, springs and various other mounting hardware). I dont want to just run out and throw money at my Jeep just to get the satisfaction of getting it done. I would really appreciate it if someone can help break down the various components that I should look at having installed or doing it myself on my jeep for a 2-3.5" lift. I have another thread on here and I remember another member mentioning something about geometry. I am not opposed to spending the money on a quality lift that will not impact the drive-ability of my Jeep while still providing a solid suspension for offloading (I have looked at TF and OME and it seems like those are the two I keep going back to as I keep reading good things about them). As with most Jeep owners this is a daily driver so I am really looking for something that will mimic the way the stock suspension handles. Also I have been perusing the threads and noticed then when leaving the stock tire size you have to install something to adjust your speedometer, at what tire size should you consider doing this? Thanks again for your help and sorry about the long winded post.

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Old 03-19-2014, 09:32 PM   #2
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Welcome, hopefully this will help.

First, what year and model Jeep do you have?

Since it's your daily, how often do you realistically plan on going off-road?

Answer those and then we can go from there.

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Old 03-19-2014, 10:47 PM   #3
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2014 JKUS and I am trying to go 1-3 times a month. Hard to do out here everything is private land.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:11 AM   #4
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With your JK being a daily and doing light wheeling, I would suggest a quality 2.5" lift and 33" tires. A lot of people will suggest 35", but they will cost more and your gas mileage will drop like a rock. 33" tires with aftermarket wheels will still give you an aggressive look. 16" wheels will be cheaper then 17" and so will the tires. If going with 16" wheels, you can run a 285/75/16 tire. If 17", you can go with a 285/70/17 tire.

Here is where you will have to make a decision depending on the future of your vehicle. If you plan on getting off-road bumpers and a winch, I would go with a coil spring lift. If you don't plan on bumpers, you can go with a budget lift/spacer lift. Coil spring lifts are designed to take the extra weight while spacer lifts are just adding a piece of plastic on top of the factory springs.

Teraflex makes both styles of lifts for both 2-door and 4-door respectively. So if you plan on going with Teraflex, make sure you get the 4-door version.

Now, Teraflex also makes a couple different options with those lifts. Some come with their shocks, without shocks or with shock adapters that reuse your factory shocks. I don't like the idea of shock adapters, it's like adding a weak point to your suspension. For the shocks themselves, you have a lot of choices. A lot of people have said the Teraflex shocks are a little on the stiff side and prone to leaking over time. I would suggest going with Rancho RS9000 shocks. They give a nice ride and are soft for daily driving.

Here is an example of a Teraflex kit without shocks. Teraflex 1351000 - TeraFlex 2.5" Lift Kit without Shocks for 07-14 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door - Quadratec

The only thing I would suggest saving up for is an adjustable front and rear trackbar to help align your front and rear axle for proper suspension geometry. You do not have to go with Teraflex, any adjustable trackbar will work just fine. In time when you feel like you want to do more regular off-roading, you can also get front lower adjustable control arms and rear upper adjustable control arms to fine tune your alignment. As with the trackbars, you don't have to go with Teraflex, just pick a good company.

As for correcting the speedo, 2012+ model owners will have to chime in on the best programmer to adjust yours. I have an older 2010 model and do not know what's available for your year.

You also may or may not need this exhaust spacer for your year. Again, 2012+ owners will have to comment. Teraflex 2610000 - Teraflex Exhaust Spacer Kit for 12-14 JeepĀ® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK with 3.6L - Quadratec

As for other suspension companies, Rock Krawler;s 2.5" is known for giving more of a 3" lift, Rough Country is known for having sagging springs. I can't comment on Rubicon Express, AEV, Rancho or the other companies. Other owners can comment.

Hope this helps a little.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:36 AM   #5
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It certainly brings some options to the table. Thanks for taking the time to write a very well thought out and informative reply.
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:06 PM   #6
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And just remember, start off small with the basics and then you can upgrade over time. With the simplicity of the JK suspension, you can upgrade your lift as you go along with out having to drop the money on an entire new kit.

Let's say down the road you want to go with 35" tires and a long-arm upgrade. 35" will work just fine with 2.5" lift and you can get aftermarket tube fenders/flat fenders to give more clearance. Teraflex and Poly Performance both make long-arm upgrade kits that provide just the control arms and frame mounts. So you can have a 2.5" long arm lift with 35" tires without completely replacing everything.
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You are on the right track with TF and OME. It can be confusing to the newcomer because there are a lot of choices on the market which is outstanding if you understand the products but overwhelming if you don't.

Try to pick a 2.5" lift kit or smaller to start. It's not a magical number but this amount of lift is a solid trade off between providing enough to provide improved off road performance including fitting the highly popular 35" class of tires and not excessively distort the suspension, steering and driveline geometry. If your main goal is to climb rock walls and drive highly technical trails with boulders and fallen trees then a taller lift will help at the expense of cost, drivability on the road and reliability. There is no question that "big" Jeeps are a lot of fun in many off road conditions but like everywhere else: there is no free lunch.

You will also find a lot of options like long arm suspensions, 15" wheels and others that are mostly left overs from previous generations that were smaller scale and had less flexible factory designs than the current Wrangler JK. Their value is much more limited on the JK unless you want to push the envelope.

The Rancho 9000XL shocks are popular because they have 9 presets but they are not tuned to any coil springs.The shocks and coils need to work in harmony for the best performance and ride quality. TF offers some tuned shocks for their lifts. They will provide better performance than other shocks with generic tunes. There is one exception, if you prefer a soft car-like ride, the 9000s can be adjusted where tuned shocks tend be slightly stiffer and cannot be adjusted. The high end shocks $500+ per shock are completely tunable, not just adjustable, but proper tuning requires a lot of knowledge.

One last comment, try to avoid the temptation of buying one of the low end lift kits that offer dozens of parts including shocks and control arms for $500-600. If the deal sounds too good to be true it is. In the long run they are more expensive.
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:20 PM   #8
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Thanks for the info, I'm looking at the metal cloak 3.5 arb lift. Looks like it's very versatile when it comes to leaving stock shocks or control arms on it plus a couple guys I rode with have that set up and were extremely happy with it. I really appreciate all the time you took to write a really well thought out post to help me make my choice. I will post pictures once I get it done.

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