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Old 06-01-2012, 12:42 AM   #1
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manual endless winch source & price

looking for an emergency hand winch? Do you think a manual winch is sort of "self reliant" and cool? I do.

here is a Tirfor type endless cable winch for $200
note that it's labled a 1.6 ton . it's actually 1600 kg or 1.6 metric tons, (tonne's) so its a 3500 lb rating.

Northern Industrial Wire Rope Pulling Hoist — 1.6-Ton Capacity | Hoists, Lifts + Cranes | Northern Tool + Equipment

note that this appears to be the same one ARB is selling for $376 ( 246 +25+105)... because you have to by the same 65' cable and EVEN the HANDLE all SEPARATELY!!!

for what it's worth it does have a CE sticker. It does appear to me to be the very same as ARB's, just looking very carefully at pictures. Perhaps ARB specs higher grade unit. But then you might expect more rating? Or is it just the $175 black paint upgrade? :P

the cool thing about an endless cable crawling winch is it will grab any (correct size and type, -and it is picky) cable so you can carry as much cable as you wish and just freely pull it through to the length you want to start pulling. it does not spool the cable it just shoots it out the other end, thus it does not coil or twist it up or otherwise abuse it as do types with a spool and the pull power does not change as it wraps up, because it doesn't.

anyway, I just though I would share my shopping experience.

here is a cutaway so you can see how they work
http://www.liftingequipmentdirectuk....ope_winch.html

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Old 06-01-2012, 12:55 AM   #2
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At 1.6 tons or 3200 lbs, your jeep is going to be slightly over the maximum limit straining the equipment severely, i would look into a high lift jack and some straps.

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Old 06-01-2012, 09:36 AM   #3
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1.6 METRIC tons not "short tons" = 1600 kg. = 3527 LB. single line pull.

When do you need to lift your Jeep vertically up a cliff anyway?

yes I do know you can get seriously mired in mud. you could then use a snatch block and double it to 7000 lb.

there is no comparison between using a high lift jack and a Tirfor winch. except to say that using a high lift is an excercise in being slow. the high lift can only pull you about 2 feet at a time before you have to reset and re-hook after you account for your secondary strap taking up any slack.

I do believe in having a jack. they are cool too.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:27 AM   #4
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You can never be too prepared, but being "cool" is the last reason I'd carry any piece of equipment.

The only problem with something like this is it's a bit slow compared to having an electric winch ready to go. It would make a good backup piece though.

But if it's all you've got, it's definitely better than nothing. Although at $200 I think I'd save just a bit more and get an electric winch.
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:35 PM   #5
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ok, True. I grant that your close to an electric winch in price and weight anyway and then you have to stow the sucker somewhere. kind of silly in that regard.

still a cool piece of kit.

do you ever feel limited by having your bumper winch permanently attached to the front? just a question. My brother permanently mounted his winch to the rear of his 68 Mustang convertible / Jeep Grand Wagoneer. but that's another story.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:08 AM   #6
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Don't have an electric winch personally *yet, but many of those I wheel with do. I've yet to personally be in a situation where a rear mounted winch would have been more valuable. If you wheel alone I could see the benefit, but when you're with others I don't see it as a necessity. It certainly couldn't hurt, but in reality I don't see myself ever using a rear mounted winch.
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