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Old 01-27-2012, 09:31 PM   #1
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Hey Everyone,

I'm thinking of taking the plunge into my first Jeep; a 2012 Rubicon 2-dr. The kids are gone, the ex-wife is gone, and I don't need the a ton of room any longer. I drove the 2012 last week and I was impressed. The perfect vehicle for my fly fishing activities.

So here's the question; I love to drive and I've always driven manual transmissions (except on my Expedition, and it wasn't offered). I think manuals are fun and I just love stirring the gear box on the road. However; I have no real experience off road.

When you are doing serious off-road stuff, what is the preferred transmission? I can foresee situations on a hill or on difficult terrain where it might be awkward to need to switch gears and, no matter how good you are, that slight hesitation could be a detriment. An Auto transmission wouldn't have that problem.

What say everyone? I'm leaning toward a manual but wonder about off road use. And....let's face it....I'm not getting younger and an automatic in heavy traffic makes it easier to sip on the Starbucks.

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Old 01-27-2012, 09:43 PM   #2
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In the end it's all preference.. Offroad the Auto will be better in most to all situations but some don't mind the manual trans and are happy with them..

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Old 01-27-2012, 10:03 PM   #4
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XJ's right on. For crawling over rocks, or picking your way through a water hole, an auto would be superior.

That said, I bought a manual, even though there were plenty of features about the '12's new auto pointing me to the contrary. I just like shifting my vehicles myself, I guess.

Maybe I've got control issues.

One thing to be aware of: the clutch on the Jeep manual has a very high release point that takes a little getting used to.
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I've always been partial to a manual transmission in pretty much any vehicle. I feel like I have more control I guess.
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I have an '04 TJ that has a 5spd. It has 150K on the clock, and I enjoy driving it--on and off road--and to me it easier to slip from one gear to another in slippery situations where I need to rock it than an auto would be.

That being said---I just purchased a '12 JK Sport with the auto---and am very happy with it on the street and in the snow--it doesn't feel as if it is as "loose" as my TJ, I personally believe that you would be "fine" with either a stick or auto, and it truly does come back to personal preference.

I could be wrong but think yours will be used more as a "tool" to get you to your fishing spots, than a rig that is driven off road just to enjoy the off-road experience.

WARNING!! I purchased the TJ to get my Kayak to the spots others couldn't "put in at" so I could be on the "hot fishing spots" when most people were just leaving the launch. Now I have discovered that I also enjoy the feeling of going where most vehicles can't and the "family" that is Jeep!!

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Thanks guys, I doubt I'll be modding or changing anything. My money goes to my flyfishing.......uh.....and golf........and motorcycles. The jeep will be used mostly as a daily driver and a tool to get to good fishing spots. And, who am I kidding? It's just more "me" than the crappy old Ford Focus I drive now.
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I purchased mine with the manual. I'm not a real rock crawler & am happy with my choice. Love it when I'm doing long steep decents. Never touch the brakes!!!

Yours being the Rubi will have the 4 to 1 transfer case. I would think 1st gear in 4 low will be plenty low for you. I think you'ld be happy with the hand shaker!!
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^^ Also don't forget our "anti stall" feature.
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Old 01-28-2012, 04:48 PM   #12
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^^ Also don't forget our "anti stall" feature.
LOL gotcha!!

If he were building a crawler I would recommend an auto all the way!
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Ive got a manual only because getting a good/decent/solid 4.0 TJ for $1500.00 seemed like a deal I couldent pass up.Anyway why do a lot of people mention not having to use the brakes on long decents? Whats the big benefit?
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Old 01-28-2012, 11:47 PM   #15
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the single biggest cause of bumper-to-bumper traffic is the auto trans

autos make it too easy to use a cell phone while driving

an auto trans makes you just a motor vehicle operator, not a "driver"

not a jeep but most likely an auto:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/918447/
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I think you will appreciate a manual trans more vs. an automatic when off road.
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the single biggest cause of bumper-to-bumper traffic is the auto trans

autos make it too easy to use a cell phone while driving

an auto trans makes you just a motor vehicle operator, not a "driver"

not a jeep but most likely an auto:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/918447/
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Old 01-29-2012, 03:47 PM   #18
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Semi-auto is the way to go!
I don't know a good old bolt action is nice too or you could always go full-auto?
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I got the automatic, then other people can drive it that can't drive a manual and won't burn up the clutch. :-)
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I got the automatic, then other people can drive it that can't drive a manual and won't burn up the clutch. :-)
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:02 PM   #22
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Learned on manual, always drove manual, YJ was manual, TJ was manual, I basically loved driving stick. My current ride is an 07 JK....auto. I was concerned I'd hate it coming from manual but truth be told, I actually love it. Still find myself driving with the left hand on the wheel and right on the shifter but honestly, I am truly enjoying the auto much more than I thought I would.
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the single biggest cause of bumper-to-bumper traffic is the auto trans

autos make it too easy to use a cell phone while driving

an auto trans makes you just a motor vehicle operator, not a "driver"
x2

I did drive a *cough*Landcruiser*cough* for about a year that was automatic, and it was better than I had expected, both on- and off-road.

I still don't completely trust a car that shifts for itself, though.
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my wife has a sticker on the back window of her 6 speed unlimited that says "real girls drive stick"!
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When you are doing serious off-road stuff, what is the preferred transmission? I can foresee situations on a hill or on difficult terrain where it might be awkward to need to switch gears and, no matter how good you are, that slight hesitation could be a detriment. An Auto transmission wouldn't have that problem.
As far as hills go, if you're worried about rollback or roll forward, don't forget 2012's in both auto and manual have the hill start assist that briefly keeps you from rolling when you let off the brake.
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:38 PM   #26
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Depends on what you want.. I love manual.. every car i own is a manual aside from my chrysler which was given to me.. I really cant stand auto.. I was offered an autmatic semi when i was driving truck I told them hell no give me a 10 speed...
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I learned to drive on a stick and drove only sticks till I got married. Now after 37 years of only driving automatics I got my first Jeep TJ and it's a stick. I don't do anything with the TJ other than driving on the beach. A automatic would be easier but I do love my stick.
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Depends on what you want.. I love manual.. every car i own is a manual aside from my chrysler which was given to me.. I really cant stand auto.. I was offered an autmatic semi when i was driving truck I told them hell no give me a 10 speed...
I hear ya. Up until a few years ago I didn't even know that you could get a wrangler with an auto, lol.

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I hear ya. Up until a few years ago I didn't even know that you could get a wrangler with an auto, lol.

Handshaker for me all the way!!!
You haven't really driven a stick, unless there were two sticks....Nothing quite like an 8-92 with a 5&4 behind it
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You haven't really driven a stick, unless there were two sticks....Nothing quite like an 8-92 with a 5&4 behind it
Wild! Guess you wouldn't have to worry about many folks just jumping in that thing & driving off, lol.

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