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Old 06-30-2013, 12:44 PM   #61
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Forget naggy women, all my friends do that. Their always complaining about the heat and humidity every time they ride with me. They laugh at me for wearing a jacket inside where its low 70s. They get very mad when i laugh at them for complaining when its 100+.
I said Naggy women because my friends haven't complained about the heat cause we're all southerners. So the only whiny ones are the babes that think they wanna go off road. :-) Extremely hilarious when the front end gets a little light on a hill climb..

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Old 06-30-2013, 06:16 PM   #62
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Manual. It's a Jeep for Pete's Sake!
This statement is what I don't understand... obviously everyone has their own personal preference, but what the hell is this statement suppose to mean?

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^ Now that right there is funny! I'm glad to see you stopped whining and joined in on the fun
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:25 PM   #64
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Between playing with the radio, eating, talking on the phone, and brushing my hair, I don't have a free hand for a stick shift or a free leg for the clutch. Left leg is for steering!

Auto.
You don't need a free hand just keep the skinny pedal down it'll go a little faster and buy you a little time. It'll go or it'll blow
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:28 PM   #65
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I like manual bc not everyone can jump on and drive it.
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:05 PM   #66
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You can also shift without using the clutch if you're not a huge noob. All you need it for is 1st.
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:59 PM   #67
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I said Naggy women because my friends haven't complained about the heat cause we're all southerners.
So am I and so are my friends. We have lived here all a our lives and they still cant take the heat.
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:01 AM   #68
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You can also shift without using the clutch if you're not a huge noob. All you need it for is 1st.
Ive heard that, but never done it in a car. Did it on my zx636 a lot.
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Ive heard that, but never done it in a car. Did it on my zx636 a lot.
More or less the same thing. Lay off the gas, pull out of gear, as the RPM falls, punch it into the next gear, and then lay into the gas.

For downshifting you lay off the gas, pull out of gear, blip the throttle, stuff it into the appropriate gear based on RPM and speed.

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You can also shift without using the clutch if you're not a huge noob. All you need it for is 1st.
Isn't that bad for the clutch?? I use to do that and got hell for it!!
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Isn't that bad for the clutch?? I use to do that and got hell for it!!
Clutch isn't involved. As far as it knows, nothing has changed.

Clutch wear happens when you engage or release it, or when the engine overpowers the clutch's ability to hold.
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I'll play... People who drive manuals seem to think it makes them more manly, more "legit", and have more control. I find an auto is more relaxing to drive, no one knows if it's a manual or auto unless you tell them or they look, it's a real jeep either way, and the auto is actually better and gives you more finese control offroad. To each his own.
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:52 AM   #73
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It's best to deny access on a technicality before actuality. Nobody ever drove mine in college because yuppies can't row through the gears. Though most importantly it provided an opportunity to instruct numerous girls on the finer points of operating a manual which oft segued into shared learning experiences in the back seat.

If you'd rather sip your cappuccino, by all means, get the auto.
I'm 6'2" tall...I can't even sit in the back seat of my TJ, much less participate in any of those "learning experiences" you speak of <wink wink nudge nudge>

For me, manual. Why? 'Cause that's what I wanted. Seems more like a Jeep to me. There are times I'd rather have an auto, but all in all, I love my manual.
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I guess I don't understand this issue of getting a manual so people can't drive your car. I've had an auto my entire life. No one has just driven my car without my permission. A manual would just mean I wouldn't have to say no to people?
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I guess I don't understand this issue of getting a manual so people can't drive your car. I've had an auto my entire life. No one has just driven my car without my permission. A manual would just mean I wouldn't have to say no to people?

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You can also shift without using the clutch if you're not a huge noob. All you need it for is 1st.
X2 just need proper Rpm.
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Correct.
Is that really a big deal? I'm a push over, I will do almost anything I can for someone. But, telling people no to driving my vehicle is easy peasy.

And apparently people still ask, since then you have to ask them of they drive stick. What if you get someone asking and they can drive stick? I'm the only person in my family/friends who can't, so that wouldn't even work. It just seems like weird logic.
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Is that really a big deal? I'm a push over, I will do almost anything I can for someone. But, telling people no to driving my vehicle is easy peasy.

And apparently people still ask, since then you have to ask them of they drive stick. What if you get someone asking and they can drive stick? I'm the only person in my family/friends who can't, so that wouldn't even work. It just seems like weird logic.
Then I tell them no. It's not like I don't let anyone drive my car, it's just that in college if you let one person borrow it, then EVERYONE comes to you to borrow your car. The manual tranny fended off 99.9% of the people who I wouldn't let borrow my car even if it was an automatic. Guaranteed I would have been "a dick" for only letting certain people drive (people who I knew would pay for wrecking it) if it was an automatic.
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It definitely depends on what you plan on doing with the vehicle and your driving habits.
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Clutch isn't involved. As far as it knows, nothing has changed.

Clutch wear happens when you engage or release it, or when the engine overpowers the clutch's ability to hold.
Sorry meant transmission
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I say manual all the way!!!!!! Unless you want an automatic.....Then auto all the way!!!!!!
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Sorry meant transmission

Not as bad as it for me to move my boot off the rocker panel when the doors are off.



Nah, if you're in the lower RPMs and have a little practice it's no different than regular shifting because the synchro prevents you from grinding.
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Not as bad as it for me to move my boot off the rocker panel when the doors are off.

Nah, if you're in the lower RPMs and have a little practice it's no different than regular shifting because the synchro prevents you from grinding.
Good to know!! Hubby gave me hell for doing it lol!! I was like hey look what I can do and he's like don't ever do that again lol
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Why does everyone say manual is hard to use offroad? it really isn't that hard. I drive my yj with a five speed as a daily driver and a trail monster.
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Why does everyone say manual is hard to use offroad? it really isn't that hard. I drive my yj with a five speed as a daily driver and a trail monster.
The trails we run everyone wishes they had an auto.
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Good to know!! Hubby gave me hell for doing it lol!! I was like hey look what I can do and he's like don't ever do that again lol
He was right to... Synchronized transmissions should not be shifted with the clutch engaged. Just because it doesn't grind does not mean you're not doing damage, unless you matched the change 100%.

When you shift without the clutch, you are transmitting a much higher load through the synchronizer than what they are designed for. Especially if you sit at the gate tugging at the shifter waiting for the teeth to pair. Clutch-less shifting should only be done on crashboxes, or by people who want to replace their synchros a lot earlier than everyone else.
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He was right to... Synchronized transmissions should not be shifted with the clutch engaged. Just because it doesn't grind does not mean you're not doing damage, unless you matched the change 100%.

When you shift without the clutch, you are transmitting a much higher load through the synchronizer than what they are designed for. Especially if you sit at the gate tugging at the shifter waiting for the teeth to pair. Clutch-less shifting should only be done on crashboxes, or by people who want to replace their synchros a lot earlier than everyone else.
I think I'll stick to using the clutch! I haven't shifted without since hubby gave me hell.
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The trails we run everyone wishes they had an auto.
I would rather have manual even on extreme trails, but that's just me.
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I would rather have manual even on extreme trails, but that's just me.
And that's personally preference, which is why they make both. No one is going to force anyone to drive a way they don't want to, lol. I like the control I have on the rocks and backing off of steep climbs with an auto.
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And that's personally preference, which is why they make both. No one is going to force anyone to drive a way they don't want to, lol. I like the control I have on the rocks and backing off of steep climbs with an auto.
Agreed. Except how does an auto give you more control backing off of a steep climb? wouldn't you have to pop it out of gear really quick?

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