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Old 05-27-2010, 11:20 AM   #1
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Memorial Day NOT a celebration..

Just a yearly heads up I like to give about a pet peeve of mine:

"Like Patriot Day and Pearl Harbor Day, Memorial Day is not a celebration, but rather a heartfelt and prayerful response to a solemn duty. Memorial Day is a day of remembrance for the brave servicemen and women who not only answered the call, but made the supreme sacrifice for our sake -- trusting in us who remain and our descendants to ensure that their selfless sacrifice would not be in vain. It is a reminder that freedom isn't free, and that we must choose our leaders wisely, because the game of politics has real life consequences seldom known by those who play it."

I found this article online at nj.com and was a declaration by a local Patriotic Celebration Committee in a New Jersey town and I think it puts it very well. So when you're at your cookout or taking a long weekend trip take a moment to remember the reason for the holiday, and that "Happy Memorial Day" is not really an appropriate greeting this weekend. That's what Veteran's day is for, the living and the dead who served, but Memorial Day is set aside for those who paid the price and didn't make it home to their families. God Bless them.

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^ well said. we have a very an awesome military cemetary in Ft. Gibson about 15 miles from my town. They usually do something for military holidays. It is similar to arlington with the perfectly aligned white crosses but its humbling as well. Thanks to all that have served and who are still serving.. be safe

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Thanks... I know people mean well tell myself and other vets "thanks" on Memorial Day, or saying "happy Memorial day," but it's a day for reflection and remembrance, not to those who serve/have served, but to those who never came home.
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as a member of the army i feel that you said it right. most people take it as a day off of work and dont ever thanx the people that gave that day off and the ones still are fighting for them.
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as a member of the army i feel that you said it right. most people take it as a day off of work and dont ever thanx the people that gave that day off and the ones still are fighting for them.
I just always hang out at the house, maybe go to a ballgame or to a memorial somewhere. I don't think I'd ever feel right having a cookout or some sort of party..
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You try to explain this to folks around here(non service)and they tilt their heads and look at you like a confused dog.It is a day of remembering the people who sacrificed their lives for this country.It is a day for me to visit some stones and toast the memory of all fallen veterans.To fly my POW flag proudly for those who are still there.If I must explain,you will not understand.
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You try to explain this to folks around here(non service)and they tilt their heads and look at you like a confused dog.It is a day of remembering the people who sacrificed their lives for this country.It is a day for me to visit some stones and toast the memory of all fallen veterans.To fly my POW flag proudly for those who are still there.If I must explain,you will not understand.
Yeah, like I said.. people mean well, but "Happy Memorial Day" is really pretty inappropriate..
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Here Here, very well said, my 23 years in the USN, through several "Police Action" were a pleasurable duty, but

Even though the Memorial day (Decoration day) started after the Civil war, it's especially meaningful to me, because of the loss of the USS Thresher (SSN) 593 (1963)and USS Scorpion (SSN) 589 (1968), I had several officers that were close friends, on both and stay in contact with there families --a long time !!

I don't celebrate that day and usually don't get on the freeways for ANYTHING

It's a somewhat sad holiday as far as I'm concerned !!

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I agree.. at least for me, putting faces of friends with the holiday makes it a somber occasion.
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For me it has never been a sober occasion.It won't be this time around either.Heres to all my fallen brothers- may their tormented souls rest in peace.
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Every year we walk in the parade with the local scouts (Im the troop committee chairman). After the parade we'll attend three services at local cemeterys, then relax for the afternoon with just the immediate family... Your right, it should'nt be a "Happy" day. Its a national day of remembrance.

So remember your losses and honor their sacrifices, If you don't have memories or were not part of loosing friends and family, take the day to learn about the sacrifices made. Then, you will have something to remember next year
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Every year we walk in the parade with the local scouts (Im the troop committee chairman). After the parade we'll attend three services at local cemeterys, then relax for the afternoon with just the immediate family... Your right, it should'nt be a "Happy" day. Its a national day of remembrance.

So remember your losses and honor their sacrifices, If you don't have memories or were not part of loosing friends and family, take the day to learn about the sacrifices made. Then, you will have something to remember next year
Great stuff.. scouts are great.
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We get together as friends and family to remember those we have lost that served. We then leave where we have fellowshiped together to go and visit our dead loved ones. Every year, rain or shine. Its not a celebration at all, I agree.
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Most people will take pictures of themselves at a lake or getting drunk at a cookout and post them online and call the album "Happy Memorial Day" or some garbage.. pet peeve.
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My dad served during WWII in North Africa and Italy. He's 89. We were in a Delaware rest stop once and he was wearing a veteran's jacket and cap. 2 young servicemen in uniform came up to him and shook his hand and thanked him for serving. It still brings tears to my eyes thinking about it. There aren't many of his kind left.
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My grandfather is a marine veteran, and I call him every year and thank him for what he has done. Last year, he got really upset, not because I called him, just because he didn't want to think about it. What should I do this year? Should I call him? I want to tell him I'm thankful, but I don't want him to get upset or angry.
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People are ignorant. No "holiday" or "special day" has the meaning it was intended to have originally...I've accepted that most people will not understand why they don't have to go to work that day...

I appreciate all our soldiers, fallen, and standing. Past/present/future soldiers do and will deserve the utmost respect IMO. They've given in ways that most will not.
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My grandfather is a marine veteran, and I call him every year and thank him for what he has done. Last year, he got really upset, not because I called him, just because he didn't want to think about it. What should I do this year? Should I call him? I want to tell him I'm thankful, but I don't want him to get upset or angry.
I would call him and tell him that you just wanted to say hi and talk to him because it is a special day and you were thinking about him, as you always do. No need to mention anything particular about the day, he already knows what it is and probably has his fallen brothers on his mind.
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People are ignorant. No "holiday" or "special day" has the meaning it was intended to have originally...I've accepted that most people will not understand why they don't have to go to work that day...

I appreciate all our soldiers, fallen, and standing. Past/present/future soldiers do and will deserve the utmost respect IMO. They've given in ways that most will not.
I guess you're right.. if Jesus can't have Christmas.. then fallen service members can't have their day either.. Jesus gets iPods and Tickle Me Elmo while our dead military get Car tent sales and dirt cheap appliances.. makes sense..
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I get pissed that our town has the Memorial Day parade a week early just to make it convenient for people who want to travel this weekend. They are missing the whole point.
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The town I'm from in Illinois has an excellent memorial day observance at the town cemetary. It is very somber, taps is played, a 21 gun salute completed, declarations are read. Having numerous relatives who have paid the price in various wars over the years it seems the appropriate way to observe.
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I guess you're right.. if Jesus can't have Christmas.. then fallen service members can't have their day either.. Jesus gets iPods and Tickle Me Elmo while our dead military get Car tent sales and dirt cheap appliances.. makes sense..
I get the whole commericalizing of Christmas (or perhaps I should say Winter Solstice) it's been that way for years, but now days Jesus can't even have Easter . . . Walmart has stolen Easter too . . . Veteran's Day and Memorial Day will probably be next. Remember Christmas, Easter, Veteran's Day and Memorial Day costs less at Walmart! Roll backs on Budweiser, weiners, chips and dip, and disposable American flags made in Bangladesh.
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So, do you guys think our group would "get in trouble" if we held a memorial service on the plane on Memorial Day while flying to Europe? There's 40 of us, so we will have a good part of the aircraft to ourselves.
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My grandfather is a marine veteran, and I call him every year and thank him for what he has done. Last year, he got really upset, not because I called him, just because he didn't want to think about it. What should I do this year? Should I call him? I want to tell him I'm thankful, but I don't want him to get upset or angry.
My father fought in the Pacific in WWII. To this day, he refuses to talk about it. It's only recently that he's been willing to eat pork, because of something he saw or experienced during the war. We don't push him to talk about it, even though my brothers and I, and out children, would love to learn more about his life. We respect his wishes.
RB, my suggestion is to call your grandfather just to talk to him. Don't mention what day it is or thank him for his service. Just talk to him and let him know how much he means to you, as your Grandpa.
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My grandfather is a marine veteran, and I call him every year and thank him for what he has done. Last year, he got really upset, not because I called him, just because he didn't want to think about it. What should I do this year? Should I call him? I want to tell him I'm thankful, but I don't want him to get upset or angry.
Call him and tell him you love him.......
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So, do you guys think our group would "get in trouble" if we held a memorial service on the plane on Memorial Day while flying to Europe? There's 40 of us, so we will have a good part of the aircraft to ourselves.
If you're all sitting together, I would think it would be ok. If they don't want a memorial service on the plane, you could all have a moment of silence, among yourselves.
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If you're all sitting together, I would think it would be ok. If they don't want a memorial service on the plane, you could all have a moment of silence, among yourselves.
We're flying Alitalia. I'd hate to have them land the plane in the Atlantic to put us off!
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Ahhhh, well then, if you all really want to have a memorial service on the plane, call the airline and ask permission first.

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