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Old 09-11-2007, 11:37 AM   #1
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Alright, I was tempted to put this in "Off Topic" but I wasn't sure, so here goes...
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Sorry for such a long post.
I'm toying with the possibility of selling the Heep. I just want to get some other thoughts before I go through with it.

It's a 98 Sport, Gunmetal blue, 4" suspension, 1" body, vinyl seats, no carpet, soft top, half doors, blah blah...
Nothing custom yet, no cutting, stretching, cages or anything. If I keep it, I'll keep building and modding it. We all know theirs know such thing as finishing a Jeep project.
I haven't even gone as far as to see what it's worth yet.

The situation:
Right now, between my wife and I, we have 4 vehicles. Yeah, I know...just a little excessive.

We have:
'06 Jetta TDI - 5 spd. - Reflex Silver/Grey V-Tex, Pkg.0 with changer & Sat. Radio (my DD)
'06 Jetta TDI - 5 spd. - Platinum Grey Metallic/Grey V-tex, Pkg.0 with changer (wife's DD)
'98 Jeep (as listed above)
'02 Accord Coupe V6 - Red, tan leather, loaded... This car has everything except the Acura emblems. It still looks like new too, with only 30k miles on it.
The Jeep and the Honda are both paid for.

The Reason:
My wife (we'll blame this on her) wants us to get a nice convertable that we can both drive. She has "fallen out of love" with the Jeep that she petitioned so hard for us to get in the first place. I consider myself a Jeep guy, but I love anything with wheels and an internal combustion engine.....or any engine for that matter.

The Plan:
Sell the Honda and the Jeep and get a roadster of some kind. My wife loves S2000's and, to my surprise, the Lotus Elise I don't want to spend more than ~35k on whatever we get.

The Problem:
My first plan was to keep the Jeep and sell the Honda and get a less expensive drop-top for the weekends. That still would have left us with 4 vehicles.
The downer to that plan is that I just learned that we are in violation of the covenants & restrictions in our neighborhood. We are in a historic district and we aren't allowed to have more than 2 cars parked outside. We have a single car garage (with no room for expansion on our .25 acres).
As of last weekend, I parked the Jeep on our 7 acres outside of town. I hated to leave it out there but I don't really have a choice. We are staring construction on our house on that property around February, so most of the trails I've made will be lost anyway.

What do you think? You won't hurt my feelings.
No, I'm not going to divorce her over this. As long as she doesnt say "sell it and buy me new furniture and kitchen appliances" she can stay.

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Old 09-11-2007, 11:41 AM   #2
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Why cant she drive the jeep?

If its a stick teach her how to drive it. IMO no better weekend convertible then a jeep! Plus its paid for, that reason alone is enough to keep it.

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Old 09-11-2007, 11:48 AM   #3
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Oh, she can drive it, she just doesn't like it.
She can handle a stick....wait....scratch that.
She can handle a manual transmission as well as anyone I've ever known.

It's to big and slow and it ceased being cute when I put the lift and tires on it apparently.
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Oh, she can drive it, she just doesn't like it.
She can handle a stick....wait....scratch that.
She can handle a manual transmission as well as anyone I've ever known.

It's to big and slow and it ceased being cute when I put the lift and tires on it apparently.
Go down a couple inches, what you running 35's?

Easier to make it "cute" again then to get a new vehicle. Still find it amazing people will buy a new vehicle as soon as they pay one off.

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She can handle a stick....wait....scratch that.
She can handle a manual transmission as well as anyone I've ever known.
ha ha ha ha. good one.
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I've got 33's and 35's mounted. The 35's are on it now but I don't wheel hard with them b/c of the stock axles.

I don't think you can honestly put a TJ and a Lotus Elise in the same catagory. Like I said, I'd like to keep it and get a car that we both like, but I'm not going to leave the Jeep parked in the woods like a bastard stepchild. If we do sell it, there will be another one on down the road, so its not like I'll be gone forever.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:09 PM   #7
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Sell one of the Jettas
I fail to see how you are going to lose all of your trails unless you are bouilding a house that will cover 7 acres.

not trying to ba an ass but wouldn't it be nice to have some sort of orv to make use of said leftover acres?
your going to look awful funny bouncing around in one of those jettas just getting around the property.
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Why not trade the Honda AND one of the Jettas in and get something nice, like a C70, or some other newer hardtop convertible, then it can be a DD AND the weekend toy?

OR;

Just sell the Honda and call it done until you get done building the house. I know it is paid for, but if no body is driving it.. if it goes, you are no longer in trouble w/ the local constabulary, and then you can take your time and find the perfect weekend toy (69 Cadillac Coupe DeVille Convertible, IMHO) on your own time and terms!
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noise,
I drive ~90 a day round trip (thats if I stay at the office for lunch and I don't have any meetings to go to). Why in God's name would I sell a jetta that gets 48 mpg. That's about 2x what even the Honda gets.
My wife and I agree that we want to keep both Jettas, so that option is out.

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A C70 is a porker compared to either of the choices I named. Thats like putting a stock tahoe against a rock buggy. It's just not a fair fight.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:27 PM   #10
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sell the honda and wait for the new house ....would you really be able to see your jeep drive away n never see it again? haha I would cry
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Sell the Honda and find a nice used rag top for her to drive. You should be able to find a really nice used car for well under $35K. The extra few grand you will get out of your Wrangler really won't make that much of a difference. We as a Jeep community can not allow you to sell your Jeep.
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I love my jeep, but a roadster with some aftermarket goodies is just as fun in its own way. Away from teh topic of what to sell, I have my opinions as to what to buy. Hondas all have a comon problem.. no torque. Honda s2000 is a nice car, buit you have to keep em wound up to get power. I believe that the Saturn Sky Redline is a much better car.. and i have quite a bit of time behind teh wheel of both cars.
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No, not really. It wouldn't be the first time...and it sure won't be the last. I don't get attached to stuff like that until I pour my blood, sweat and tears into it. Even then, I can be pursuaded to part with it for the right amount of $$.

Jeez, you all act like there won't be any jeeps left when I get ready to get another one.

As I said before, we are keeping the TDI's...end of story.

Maybe I just waited too long to post this, as i've already been doing research on the cars, specs, prices etc, and weighing the options at hand.
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I drive ~90 a day round trip (thats if I stay at the office for lunch and I don't have any meetings to go to). Why in God's name would I sell a jetta that gets 48 mpg. That's about 2x what even the Honda gets.
My wife and I agree that we want to keep both Jettas, so that option is out.
Again not to be an ass

If MPG is an issue, why on earth do you own 4 cars to begin with?
My friend, its kind of like the old boaters saying.
"The people that have a 40' twin 454, gas drinking hog, can afford the boat, putting gas in it is the least of thire worries".

Live within your means my friend.
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problem solved

Take the top off the Jeep--there you have a nice comfortable convertable WITH A ROLLBAR-nice to have in a convertable,trust me upside down is no fun!!
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sell the honda for sure. keep the jettas as DD. i say keep the jeep as a fun weekend toy for you, then get a nice convertible for the both of you. how long have you been in violation of the codes? is another 4 months really going to matter?

my wifes boss has a lotus elise. its ok, but way overpriced in my opinion. if i was gonna get a drop top that you wont drive too much - just a weekend driver i would look at a used viper. not practical at all, but man they are FUN to drive. i had the oportunity to drive one once for about 5 minutes and it was AMAZING. you can get a used in in perfect condition with low miles for a great price.

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Sell the Honda and find a nice used rag top for her to drive. You should be able to find a really nice used car for well under $35K. The extra few grand you will get out of your Wrangler really won't make that much of a difference. We as a Jeep community can not allow you to sell your Jeep.
This still doesn't address my issue of # of cars.

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I love my jeep, but a roadster with some aftermarket goodies is just as fun in its own way. Away from teh topic of what to sell, I have my opinions as to what to buy. Hondas all have a comon problem.. no torque. Honda s2000 is a nice car, buit you have to keep em wound up to get power. I believe that the Saturn Sky Redline is a much better car.. and i have quite a bit of time behind teh wheel of both cars.
I can't make myself like the look of the Sky or even the Solstice GXP. S2000's benefit from an insanely high revving engine, but you're right, they are gutless wonders at low revs.

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Again not to be an ass

If MPG is an issue, why on earth do you own 4 cars to begin with?
My friend, its kind of like the old boaters saying.
"The people that have a 40' twin 454, gas drinking hog, can afford the boat, putting gas in it is the least of thire worries".

Live within your means my friend.
So, just because I could afford to waist fuel and money I should? That, my friend, doesn't make a bit of sense. I don't get your logic. I own 4 cars because we each have our own toy and our own DD. We have been told that we can't keep them all at our house, so we're looking at what we want to do. The thing that makes the most sense would be to keep our DD's and have 1 toy that we both like. Thats what this is about. Maybe I didn't make that clear in my O.P.

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sell the honda for sure. keep the jettas as DD. i say keep the jeep as a fun weekend toy for you, then get a nice convertible for the both of you. how long have you been in violation of the codes? is another 4 months really going to matter?

my wifes boss has a lotus elise. its ok, but way overpriced in my opinion. if i was gonna get a drop top that you wont drive too much - just a weekend driver i would look at a used viper. not practical at all, but man they are FUN to drive. i had the oportunity to drive one once for about 5 minutes and it was AMAZING. you can get a used in in perfect condition with low miles for a great price.

my 2 cents.
4 months might not matter, but we recieved the first notice 8 months ago and have been going back and forth with the homeowners ass. and the city historic folks since then.
A viper is fun show off in, but I'd rather have something that handles like its on rails. Plus, there are 5 within 10 minutes of my house and I've yet to see an elise.
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sounds to me like you already have your mind made up. if you want a sports car instead of a jeep, just get one. end of story
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Yeah, I agree with WeeBee, you're arguing against everyone's opinion. You got it worked out in your head, ditch the jeep. You had to expect a jeep board to say "Lord no, don't sell the jeep" cuz that's how we all feel. I'd get rid of a kidney before I sold my jeep.
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So, just because I could afford to waist fuel and money I should? That, my friend, doesn't make a bit of sense. I don't get your logic. I own 4 cars because we each have our own toy and our own DD. We have been told that we can't keep them all at our house, so we're looking at what we want to do. The thing that makes the most sense would be to keep our DD's and have 1 toy that we both like. Thats what this is about. Maybe I didn't make that clear in my O.P.


Well then keep them all, if you can afford them, the more power to you
Storage. Put your toys in storage and get them out when you want. You can't honestly blame your neighbors esp. if your in a HOA for not wanting it to look like you are starting a used car lot out front.
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keep the 33's you have that are not mounted on the jeep. im sure you can find a lift kit for the elise or s2000 if you look hard enough! best of both worlds..........
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I wasn't trying to sound hostile or argumentative. I feel like every point/counter point I've made was sufficiently backed.
I was just posting what I though was a general discussion on a general discussion forum. If anything, this discussion has helped me see that selling the Jeep is one of the better options out there for me at this time.

noise,
When did I blame the Home Owners Ass.? I did try to argue my case because I'm not the only violator and because you can't even see the Jeep from the street and all u can see from the neighbor's houses is the peak of the soft top.

Tiny,
I know a guy who knows a guy who met this guy who'll buy that kidney from you.

antwon,
Oh God. Thanks for what might be the funniest visual I've had in a while. The Lotus would look crazy with solid axles under it, all crossed up on the rocks.
There is a guy dropping an LT1 into an S2000 right now, so I could drop some 3/4 ton axles under it and have sufficient power to turn those tires.
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So step outside the box and keep your present junk and sell the house. Buy something that either doesn't have CC&R's or has three garage stalls.
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Sell the Jeep and the Honda and buy the Lotus. There will be plenty more Jeeps out there if you are ever ready to go that route again. If your Jeep is just another vehicle to you, why is there even a question?

I often wonder about people who come to a place like this where people are passionate about their Jeeps and ask for a good reason to keep theirs. It seems to me that if you have to ask....... Just sayin'........

And I think tiny's Jeep is currently worth more than her kidney..... Come back in a week or two.
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I would, except we've already bought the property to build on. I hate moving with a passion, so I think I'll just appease the neighborhood gods until the new house is complete.

Looks like I've got people coming to look at the Jeep and the Honda this weekend.
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woah woah woah..... how much you want for the jeep? honda? i'm not far. and could use another ride. not to mention. i dont have any neighboord crap to abide by
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And I think tiny's Jeep is currently worth more than her kidney..... Come back in a week or two.
My kidney is perfect..... sorta. It's working. Almost.
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My kidney is perfect..... sorta. It's working. Almost.
Yeah, Tiny, if I'm not mistaken, your kidneys aren't exactly on top of KBB's resale list right now, perhaps you have some other organs which might prove more profitable in a retail environment?


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