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Old 11-30-2010, 05:25 PM   #1
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My First Car = Jeep

Im turning 15 soon and my mom said we would start lookin for a car with me. I said i wanted a jeep and she complains that jeeps are top heavy. Ive been looking into a Jeep Wrangler.
My questions are:

1. Is a Jeep Wrangler topheavy although it has a ragtop?
2. How much is it to full up the tank?
3. What are the drawbacks with a jeep?
4. Is a jeep a good first vehicle?

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1. Jeeps are not top heavy.. In general Jeeps are not heavy at all compared to most suv's on the market
2. Depends on how much gas is where you live and how big of a tank you have
3. Jeeps don't come with drawbacks.. OK maybe one.. The wranglers have limited interior space compared to a XJ or ZJ.. Not much room for storage is basically what I'm getting at with the YJ's, TJ's, and 2dr JK's
4. YES YES YES YES

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Thanks. I didnt think that gas question through :]
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No problem.. Your about to get a sweet new to you ride.. I myself am 23 and my first vehlicle was a Jeep. I never wanted anything else going into car shoping and I never regreted my purchase.. I myself look forward to your Jeep search.. Keep us updated as it goes along
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I will. What was the first thing you did on your first drive by yourself?
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O wow.. Um.. That was 5 years ago.. Likely after driving off the lot I went and got lunch or dinner then drove home.. It was 1.5 hours from the dealer to where I use to live. Guessing I got gas to. At the time I was working at 4am so my night life was obsolete
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I am 16 and my first vehicle is my Jeep I say go for it. I got a 1991 YJ and it is a fun vehicle, but an expensive vehicle. I have had to do a lot of work on mine, so my advice to you is, when you start looking have an EXPERIENCED mechanic look at anything you are considering FIRST! I made that mistake and am now paying for it (literally) I spent $3,500 on it to begin with and then have put another $4,000 or so into it in repairs and fixing it up.

so, point is, have someone who knows what they're doing have a look at it first

BUT, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE MY JEEP! and so does everyone else

to your questions. My parents had the same reservations at first, but I convinced them otherwise

1. no, they are not "top heavy" but the wheelbase is smaller than normal vehicles which is where the misconception (I believe) comes from. so you just have to be conscientious of that when making sharp turns... just go a little slower

2. where I am gas costs about $3.00 and my particular Jeep has a 20 gal tank and gets about 11.5 mpg... so if you do the math you can see how that's not very good. But, that's MY Jeep, I'm sure everyone else will have different answers to that

3. Only drawback is the limited space for friends to ride. But, if you think about it, it's a good thing more than a bad. My friends love being in the Jeep, but seldom do they ask me for a ride because they know how I can't fit many people comfortably. And it's loud and windy (some would call that a drawback, but I think it's all in the fun of it!!)
Also, just don't get sold a lemon (like I did) do it right and the mechanical issues will not become a drawback

4. A Jeep is am AMAZING first vehicle! I LOVE MINE!! you can customize it, learn how to do mechanical things on your own, have a beefy convertible, and the AWESOME aspect doesn't exactly hurt it any either!
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Jeeps are not top heavy. Without a lift they are actually pretty short. BUT they can roll due to such a tight turning radius.
Gas. Depends on what size tank
Drawbacks. Space! Very small vehicles
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First Welcome to the Forum.

Wranglers are not top heavy, but with the short wheel base you have to be a little more cautious in turns.

Mine has a 19 gallon tank so you can do the math. The mileage is terrible but they are worth it.

I really cannot think of a single drawback. I have the 06 LJ so I have a little more cargo room than the standard wheel base, but if you put the back seat down, you will have plenty of room for the necessities.

As far as being a good first "vehicle" (not a car) I think it is an excellent choice. I wish that my daughter would have wanted one. They come with a built in roll cage, they are not fast and according to many members of this forum who have been involved in serious accidents (one being hit by a semi) they are safer than most vehicles on the road today.

Good luck with your search and when you find something, post it up here.
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I received a XJ on my 15th birthday. That would be a 1999 Jeep Cherokee sport straight 6. It lasted a good long 5 years. Every since I entered the Jeep world I've had my eye on a wrangler!!! Well, I turned 20 and decided I would sell my XJ for a TJ. So, I did. I now have a 1998 TJ manual. I live in Mississippi gas is on average about $2.70. It takes me about $40 to fill up. Space is VERY limited! As far as it being top heavy. Nope!!! I've done some crazy things in my wrangler and we still haven't rolled. I will say that you want to either invest in a hard top or hard doors. I have half doors and a soft top. That means I have all plastic windows. That zip. And the zippers will wear out. I had to purchase a back up top for those rainy days. I guess it's just a personal preference. Keep in mind that not all jeeps come with air conditioner. Mine doesn't have it. But my heater is HOT!!! Having a Jeep is a very expensive habit. keep that in mind! Having a Jeep is a love affair!!! Good luck! Keep us updated!!!

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http://www.jeep-classifieds.com/35949_jeep-ad.html
This is about what im lookin for take away all the racks on top and back.
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:33 PM   #12
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Nice lookin Jeep, personally those are the exact racks I'm lookin to save up for! bout $1600 worth of racks (top and back with back bumper) on that thing, plus the front bumper and all... for $7000... I got ripped off!!! lol
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lol we all do sometimes i know i have and im only 14
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I'm 16 as well and got my Jeep a couple months ago. It's an 04 TJ Sport and I love it! As said above Jeeps are probably less top heavy than any other suv due to the lack of a hard top. They do have a short wheel base so it does demand respect at highway speed. My Jeep has a 19 gallon tank that costs around $40 to fill up from the fuel light being on and lasts me about a week and a half puttering around too and from school, to work, friends houses, a couple trips to nearby city (15 miles away), etc. I think I'm getting around 15mpg. The only drawback I have seen is gas mileage. My suggestion: get a job if you can to help pay for gas or insurance. I work 20+ hours a week at $10/hr and am self sufficient gas wise. In VA I'm not allowed to drive more than one non family member till I've had my license for a year so the lack of space is a non issue for me. Definitely have a mechanic check out whatever you are thinking about buying THOROUGHLY. if the seller has a problem with it, then I wouldn't want to do business with then anyways. I'm not sure what your price range is but Wranglers in my area are EXPENSIVE. All dealers around here are charging $16k-18k for Jeeps with near 100000 miles on them. To put that in perspective my sister just got an 08 Chevy Aveo for less than $8k with 3000 miles on it. My 04 jeep was $11000 with 62000 miles on it and that's after searching for 2 months and talking the seller down. I was lucky to find that deal. I'd suggest searching auto trader and Craigslist. Definitely try to get a soft top with hard doors. Best combo. And learn how to put yo and fold down the top correctly to prevent damage. Finally I drove a 97 ford expedition till I git my jeep. Hated it but it had 4 wheels and rolled. Don't do anything stupid of immature in your Jeep please! It makes the rest of us 16 year olds look bad and makes the adults say "I told ya so"!
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ya, we do... But, I hope you have success in finding a nice one! good luck! and keep us posted on the search! and of course if you ever have questions along the way, we are all here for some support
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I'm 16 as well and got my Jeep a couple months ago. It's an 04 TJ Sport and I love it! As said above Jeeps are probably less top heavy than any other suv due to the lack of a hard top. They do have a short wheel base so it does demand respect at highway speed. My Jeep has a 19 gallon tank that costs around $40 to fill up from the fuel light being on and lasts me about a week and a half puttering around too and from school, to work, friends houses, a couple trips to nearby city (15 miles away), etc. I think I'm getting around 15mpg. The only drawback I have seen is gas mileage. My suggestion: get a job if you can to help pay for gas or insurance. I work 20+ hours a week at $10/hr and am self sufficient gas wise. In VA I'm not allowed to drive more than one non family member till I've had my license for a year so the lack of space is a non issue for me. Definitely have a mechanic check out whatever you are thinking about buying THOROUGHLY. if the seller has a problem with it, then I wouldn't want to do business with then anyways. I'm not sure what your price range is but Wranglers in my area are EXPENSIVE. All dealers around here are charging $16k-18k for Jeeps with near 100000 miles on them. To put that in perspective my sister just got an 08 Chevy Aveo for less than $8k with 3000 miles on it. My 04 jeep was $11000 with 62000 miles on it and that's after searching for 2 months and talking the seller down. I was lucky to find that deal. I'd suggest searching auto trader and Craigslist. Definitely try to get a soft top with hard doors. Best combo. And learn how to put yo and fold down the top correctly to prevent damage. Finally I drove a 97 ford expedition till I git my jeep. Hated it but it had 4 wheels and rolled. Don't do anything stupid of immature in your Jeep please! It makes the rest of us 16 year olds look bad and makes the adults say "I told ya so"!
ya, I agree with all this! As I said, I'm 16 too, so please let's not make a bad impression as young Jeep drivers, be responsible in the Jeep, it is a very capable machine if used correctly. Just think about what you do in it. Take your time on turns, stray from super high speeds (mine tops out at around 75 on the highway anyway), and definitely respect it.
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youve already made a mistake looking into buyin a jeep.. NEVER my friend NEVER say the word car referring to a jeep.. even SUV doesnt cut it.. a JEEP is a JEEP

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1. Is a Jeep Wrangler topheavy although it has a ragtop?

there is hardly any difference between a soft and hard top as far as weight goes.. also what renegade said.. the short wheelbase is what confuses people, the jeep is not top heavy.. how can it be? theres nothing to it.. just gotta take turns slower..

2. How much is it to full up the tank?

most jeeps are 20 gallon tanks.. 20 X price of gas.. you should be worried more about gas mileage.. if your not gonna be doing a TON of road trips.. then dont worry about it

3. What are the drawbacks with a jeep?

only drawback i can think of other than what everyone else said (limited storage) jeeps are VERY expensive in a sense that you just wanna make it better than the guy's next to you.. even in highschool (always had to have the nicest jeep in the lot )

4. Is a jeep a good first vehicle?

uhm duh? best of both worlds.. winter = decent vehicle for bad weather.. still the shorter wheelbase makes it very fun to drive on ice.. just gotta get use to it.. and by fun i really do mean fun and then in the summer.. nuff said no top no doors no worries... i learned to drive with my jeep.. and yes it was my first vehicle.. and still my fav outta my 2.. (even tho my baby is back home)


find a jeep you like.. dont pay extra for parts you dont want on there to begin with.. trust me.. theres always nice jeeps for sale somewhere.. just take your time and look.. also look more into what is under the jeep too.. wish everyday that my parents woulda paid a lil extra for the d44 rear-end when they ordered the jeep from the dealer.. keep in mind they bought it not thinking i was gonna lift it and crap.. but just find a good base to build from if thats what your really interested in.. (i6, d44 rear, hard/soft top combo, and yes hardtops are great for winter)

save up your money.. for a lil more you could probably find a nice rubi by the time your 16.. then youd have a great starter jeep
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ya, I agree with all this! As I said, I'm 16 too, so please let's not make a bad impression as young Jeep drivers, be responsible in the Jeep, it is a very capable machine if used correctly. Just think about what you do in it. Take your time on turns, stray from super high speeds (mine tops out at around 75 on the highway anyway), and definitely respect it.
It makes me so mad when I see adults say "you spoiled kid getting a jeep when you're 16 you're so spoiled. You're going to total it within a year, blahblahblah...." because I actually AM responsible and earned my jeep! (Not accusing anyone on wranglerforum etc etc) .

Also Jeeps are chick magnets...just sayin :P they love it in the summer with no top or doors

Edit: also unless you are just completely opposed get the 5 speed instead of an automatic. Not only fun to drive but you feel pretty pro when you are one of the handfull of people that can drive standard in your high-school
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It makes me so mad when I see adults say "you spoiled kid getting a jeep when you're 16 you're so spoiled. You're going to total it within a year, blahblahblah...." because I actually AM responsible and earned my jeep! (Not accusing anyone on wranglerforum etc etc) .

Also Jeeps are chick magnets...just sayin :P they love it in the summer with no top or doors
hey now.. i didnt start tearing up my jeep until AFTER my teen years were up

jeeps are chick magnets regardless of the season.. summer or winter
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Thanks to everyone, helped alot and im absorbing everything that yall veteran jeepers are tellin me. Its pretty cool how YOU let me learn from YOUR mistakes and not mine.
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It makes me so mad when I see adults say "you spoiled kid getting a jeep when you're 16 you're so spoiled. You're going to total it within a year, blahblahblah...." because I actually AM responsible and earned my jeep! (Not accusing anyone on wranglerforum etc etc) .
Ya, I know what you mean... I actually worked and saved up to pay for the Jeep. Also, I get my own mods, and help out with repairs and gas as much as I can. But, as long as I do good in school, my parents take care of insurance and help me with gas and repairs.

AND I know better than to drive like a madman in the thing, cause I fishtailed ONCE when I had my permit with my mom and my best friend in the vehicle making a right turn on wet asphalt and ended up on the median. Thank god we didn't roll, I was able to control it (more or less) and we fishtailed around twice (making an s with the back wheels), and hopped up onto the median. That's when I truely realized what I had and how I must think about what I do... not just on the Jeep but in anything

and I agree with getting the 5spd... it's awesome driving a manual
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may I just add that the fishtailing was my mistake going too fast round a right hand turn trying to stay in the same lane to beat the light... nooot goooood
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ill take that into consideration.

How often do yall go off-road?
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I'm 16 and got a 1985 jeep cj7 with a 258 I6 and a T-5 transmission. It's awesome and I plan on rebuilding it in the spring, which will be a sad time for me because I won't be able to drive it for 2 months. Lol but nevertheless jeeps are
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ill take that into consideration.

How often do yall go off-road?
I use to go 6 times a year cause I had no money.. the closest park is a hour and a half away then I did two snow runs every year.. That was when I had no money persay.. Then I got another Job and starting working alot and had the money to go more often but only maybe made it out 3 times..

Most go way more than that but I lived in NYS so legal oppurtunities are null and void
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Oh well that wont be a problem with me i live in alabama i can go basically in my back yard
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Yeah I recently got a jeep tj as my first vehicle (don't call it a car) and it is much more fun to drive than any other car or truck...
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sounds like jeeps are the best thing on the road. and in the mud
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I'm 15 and drive a 93 xj I LOVE it I got a job an bought it with my own money. I try to pay for everything I can but it isn't always possible. I would have anything but a jeep in the future! The fishtailing is like the only problem I have had, I love to throw it around when it is wet but I did have one time where it got out of my hands and did a complete 180 across two lanes between a median and a power pole and ended sideways in someones driveway. Otherwise I have learned to control it like perfectly. And I off-road whenever I get the chance! It will be the best thing that you ever drive!! Good luck with your search!
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Jeeps may not be the best things on the rode but they're close.

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