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Old 08-11-2014, 11:03 PM   #1
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My neighbor's Jeep

Well...my neighbor bought a Jeep a year or two ago and it has sat there ever since and I think I might buy it for a project...
I know nothing about Jeeps so please bare with me as I am here to learn

I am attaching a photo bucket link to a gallery of some pix that I took today for you to look at to help tell me what it is that I am looking at...

Here's what I do know...(what he told me)
It is a 1990 Sahara Wrangler, 4x4, automatic with the straight 6.
Mechanically, power steering pump started leaking, carb probably needs cleaning, and connector from gas tank and where you put gas in it needs replace. Leaks a little when I put gas in it.

The body appears to be very solid with almost no rust except in the drivers floor from water gathering there and puddling and just one small dent...
There are no rips or tears in the seats...
The top and side curtains appear to be in very good shape too...
The biggest thing I see is that is extremely dirty and there is a lot of what appears to be mold and/or mildew from sitting open in the weather...
All 5 tires seem to be in very good shape and all 5 match...
All the wheels are stock and all have the original caps in them...
It appears to be all there except for the side curtains as you can see...

I should probably say that I know nothing about Jeeps HOWEVER I have worked on my share of cars including mostly hot rods and Corvettes...
I have a fair amount of tools and yes, I know how to use them...

I can buy it for $2500...
What am I getting myself into here and what is it worth...?
Thanx for any help you can give me...Gary

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Old 08-12-2014, 02:39 AM   #2
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If your neighbor wants $2500, I'd say he wants a bit too much. Jeeps can be very deceptive when it comes to repairs, because as off road vehicles, one example can look like heck, but be unscathed and rust free underneath. Another example can look really great and be a suspension and driveline nightmare to repair, due to abusive off roading.

Old Jeeps can come to life with enough care, but how big is your budget and how much time do you have? Only you can answer that. I'd have a really good tech go over and through it for an estimate of repairs to know what to expect prior to buying.

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Old 08-12-2014, 02:52 AM   #3
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Like the 2five22 said looks can be deceiving. You have looked in all the obvious places now you need to get dirty. Look up under it in the hard to get to areas and search for damage, rust or worn out parts. If you dont really know what to look for get a good mechanic to check it over for you. Those rims show a lot of rust, any chance it spent a lot of time on the coast? You could contact your local Jeep club and ask them to look it over for you. Im betting they would do a better job than 90% of mechanics. Tell them you will buy the pizza and beer and I bet one or 3 will show up. Just don't be in a hurry to buy. If you really want one you can find the right one.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:32 AM   #4
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If it runs and drives right I would buy it. $2500 Jeep Wranglers are unheard of here in Florida. Nice ones are selling for 5-6k real nice ones even more. If you don't want it I will buy it.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:16 PM   #5
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Hows the underneath?
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Old 08-12-2014, 11:34 PM   #6
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I would say try to talk him down and check every nook and cranny
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:14 PM   #7
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Haven't got under it yet...I wanted to know if he was even in the ball park 1st...
Is there certain things to look for on these that are known problem areas...???
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Personally I would crawl under and look at all the suspension,as well as steering components look close at the track bar while someone moves the steering wheel back and forth to make sure it isn't wiggling at either end. 2500.00 aint a lot of money. But, it's a Jeep It can add up quick when you start upgrading. Oh Yeah, Welcome to the Forum!!! I lived in Chobee most of my life, and now I'm in Sebring.
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Old 08-23-2014, 06:56 PM   #9
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Today I drove It...

Well...today me and a buddy of mine whom is a mechanic started her up and took it for a spin...here's what we found...

After crawling in, around and under it we thru a battery in it and with a couple of squirts of brake cleaner up the air cleaner snorkel she fired right up...
It ran very smooth and there were zero knocking or ticking sounds...

So down the road we go, keeping in mind that all of the tires were a tad low, some more than others...she drove pretty darn nice...
Brakes seemed pretty decent...steering seemed to be tight and it didn't wonder...
The exhaust looked mostly fairly new but it has an exhaust leak somewhere around half way back...not a big deal...
We drove around the block and up and down the road a few times...

All in all I was kinda impressed...
I also found out that he has the three missing roof side and rear panels and they are all in good shape too...

He said it needed the carb "adjusted" and I have read on here that these carbs weren't great and most guys swap them out for Webers...maybe someone can shed some light on that...
Anyway...the carb seemed to work fine but we'll see...

We made a deal for $2000...he wanted $2500 and I offered him $1800 and he was havin' no part of that...I don't see how I could go wrong...

Here's what I know for sure that it needs other than a good cleanin'...
I would love some suggestions on the best place to buy these things

MAYBE a carburetor...

Gas filler tube is leaking...???anyone???

Battery (I can handle that LOL)

Power steering return leaks...no big deal

There is a rubber molding strip about an inch wide that runs across the front between the hood and the windshield that needs replacing...???help???

It also suffers from the sloppy tilt wheel syndrome and I will be addressing that soon...no big deal...

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I will be paying him and bringin' her home this coming week...heck, it's right next door! I can literally see it out the window from where I am sitting right now on my couch! Kinda weird! LOL

Thanx for any advice guys as I have never owned one of these things and it is all new to me, I really appreciate it
Also, I plan on posting progress pictures and reports of the massive clean up and fix up as I go along...
But remember, this is a low budget thing as I intend on flipping it...also it is SO original my plan is to keep it that way...no lift kit or big tire for this one...sorry
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Haha... Flip it... The bug will bite you as soon as you get it in the driveway. You'll keep it, lift it, and drive the snot out of it! Mark my words!
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Old 08-23-2014, 09:02 PM   #11
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As far as parts. Rockauto has a ton of YJ parts at a very reasonable price
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Old 08-24-2014, 12:40 AM   #12
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You can also search this forum for the guys parting out jeeps also. Like the windshield trim and the gas tank filler, should be rather easy and cheap to replace. Look on craigslist for other parts you need too, theres also usually some jeep used parts dealers advertising on CL too.
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Gas filler tube is leaking...???anyone???

morris 4x4 i just replaced both of mine for the same reason. very easy to replace and pretty cheap
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Haha... Flip it... The bug will bite you as soon as you get it in the driveway. You'll keep it, lift it, and drive the snot out of it! Mark my words!
I am actually more of a hot rodder...never really wanted a vehicle that is cold in the winter, hot in the summer and wet when it rains...kinda why I am not into bikes...

I mean absolutely no offense...perhaps if I lived somewhere other than Florida where we have no hills and the woods are just boring, HOT sand and scrub palms...
Perhaps if I still lived in Maine (my home state) I could enjoy a Jeep a lot more...

Truth be known, my wife has always told me that she would like to have one so the 1st mission will be to let that play out to get that out of her system My wife, whom I love dearly, won't put the window down because it will mess up her hair and because it is too hot out not to have the a/c on will soon realize when she comes out of the grocery store to find a seat full of water because it rained while she was in there...will soon realize that it is not for her...
If she ends up liking it...we will keep it...
If not...it will be sold to pay for a paint job for my 72 Nova SS...

Thank you very much for all of your help and suggestions....I look forward to sharing this little project with all of you!

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Congrats, you done good on this one! And nice Nova.
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Congrats, you done good on this one! And nice Nova.
Well thank you Gil We will see how it cleans up...
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On the windshield seal. You have to fold down the windshield to replace it. I would be prepared to clean and fix any rust you ancounter under there. There might not be much, but it would be easier if you had a plan to clean it up and seal it up with some sort of rust coating.

The big pain is folding the windshield back up. I had to use a ratchet strap and felt like I was gonna break something.
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On the windshield seal. You have to fold down the windshield to replace it. I would be prepared to clean and fix any rust you ancounter under there. There might not be much, but it would be easier if you had a plan to clean it up and seal it up with some sort of rust coating.

The big pain is folding the windshield back up. I had to use a ratchet strap and felt like I was gonna break something.
Thanx for the tip!
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Well here's where I'm at right now...
Got several hours (a couple days) into cleaning it up...presently at the rubbing compound stage...I don't know if you can tell from these pix but it is making a huge difference in this ugly azz color as it hasn't been even washed in years, let alone have any wax on it...
The cowl is rubbed and the hood is not...



Mechanically I have been replacing dried out and cracked vacuum lines and MAN! there are a lot of them! Sheesh!!!
I also replaced the water pump...pretty easy one to do...
Seems to run pretty good but it does not like to idle when it's cold however runs great after it's warmed up...prolly needs the choke adjusted....any advise on this...???
I will keep you guys posted as long as there is interest Thanx!

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Looking good!
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Looking good!
Thanx! It will look pretty decent after this (rubbing compound) we will wax it...
It's running pretty good now too
She will be good to go after a couple more weeks
Wish I knew the paint code for this color....????? anybody...???
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Some progress pictures

Well...been working on it for a few weeks now off and on in my spare time...
It is FAR from done however it is far enough along to show some progress pix...
Other than the obvious, I have tuned it up, changed the oil, new battery, water pump, alternator, horn, steering wheel and replaced about 100 leaky vacuum hoses...oh ya...fixed the sloppy tilt steering wheel...

Thanx for all of the advise I have received here as I know absolutely nothing about Jeeps and you guys have made it a little easier...










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Well...been working on it for a few weeks now off and on in my spare time... It is FAR from done however it is far enough along to show some progress pix... Other than the obvious, I have tuned it up, changed the oil, new battery, water pump, alternator, horn, steering wheel and replaced about 100 leaky vacuum hoses...oh ya...fixed the sloppy tilt steering wheel... Thanx for all of the advise I have received here as I know absolutely nothing about Jeeps and you guys have made it a little easier...
I've been using some stuff cAlled tr3 it's in a silver can. It worked amazing on my jeeps my YJ is 25 years old with factory paint and it makes it shine. Then my XJ looks great with it also. But once a year I also wash clay bar, wetsand with 3k then buff with my meguiars professional stuff. Then the rest of the year I hit it with the tr3.
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I've been using some stuff cAlled tr3 it's in a silver can. It worked amazing on my jeeps my YJ is 25 years old with factory paint and it makes it shine. Then my XJ looks great with it also. But once a year I also wash clay bar, wetsand with 3k then buff with my meguiars professional stuff. Then the rest of the year I hit it with the tr3.

We rubbed it with rubbing compound to clean it, has been sitting a couple years and it was pretty bad...haven't waxed it yet as I may wrap it camo...haven't decided...and if I do, I don't want wax on it...
(BTW...I have a sign shop and can wrap it myself cheap)
Don't know if you read the thread but I have never owned a Jeep before...bought this one strictly to fix up and sell...

What do you guys think about wrapping it to sell it...yes or no...???
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No on the wrap IMHO. I wish I could find a $2000 Jeep. Hope you get to enjoy it before you sell it.
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It's great to see an older Jeep that hasn't been heavily modded and that has been cleaned up!

Great job!!

Please don't wrap it.
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I appreciate what ya'll are sayin about the wrap as I prefer my stuff to be pretty much original however I live in a small country town (redneck) 35 miles to the nearest town and camo rules here (for them) we will see...Thanx!
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Nice project!

My thought is don't wrap (I love that classic color) you can always offer to throw the wrap in for X more (not all Jeep enthusiasts will want it, choice is a bonus).
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Progress Pictures

Well...it's been a while and I did quite a bit to it...
Got her sold...they pick it up this week...
I got $6500...

















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WOW man that's all I can say!!! Great flip! You did some nice work n it. Couldn't believe the wheel clean up.

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