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Old 05-26-2013, 09:13 AM   #1
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Naked Wrangler Off road capability.

I'm on the practical/ utility side when it comes to mods. I only want to spend on upgrades when it is absolutely necessary.

so how well does a stock wrangler perform on trails? just those "normal trails, aint no crazy crawling, though.

anyone go off road with few or no lift/ mods? what is the limit of a wrangler(non-rubi) in that case then?

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Old 05-26-2013, 09:29 AM   #2
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You will be pleasantly surprised and blown away how capable they are stock.

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Old 05-26-2013, 09:30 AM   #3
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Tell you what, I will let you know today. As we have some good trails here with good flex spots and challenging hill climbs.

The only thing done to my YJ is removed sway and track bars, and has 235/75R15 tires.

However, a stock Wrangler should have quite a bit of potential depending on your driving ability and how you want to push it.

You will likely want to lift your wrangler for some added ground clearance and then run a little bit larger and more aggressive tires to help with biting the dirt.

If you are just purchasing an old wrangler, the best place to start is by performing general maintenance and preventative maintenance.
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A friend bought a slightly banged up TJ to fix and sell some time ago. He took the stock TJ to an off road area to test it out when he was done. Test was a success. We were all impressed and reminded how capable a stock TJ is.



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Old 05-26-2013, 11:11 AM   #5
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The other day I went wheeling with a few folks on a local trail. The fella behind me had a stock JK and he did real well. I only had to pull him over a couple obstacles that he high centered on due to the low skid plate.

I ran a stock CJ5 for years and never got stuck or high centered. (but I stayed off the rocks, and still do) I always picked my lines and went.

A stock Jeep is very capable, a properly lifted and properly set up Jeep is darn near bullet proof.
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Old 05-26-2013, 06:12 PM   #7
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Well I am done wheeling for the day. It was pretty muddy at our park in a few places, and so I went on dry ground around some of those. People with lifted, locked, and 35" duratrac's and MT/R's were getting stuck.

A few of the rutted obstacles I had to get just a little bit more speed going up the hill (we have hill climbs up to 150ft here) and then I would make it. I felt myself bounce a couple of times when hitting on the skid plate, but nothing major.

Overall, my 23yr old, stock 4.2L 5 spd Jeep Wrangler on street tires did an awesome job and I never once had to get pulled or pushed by anyone.

I also want to point out that removing the track bars, and disconnecting the sway bar to help with flex is of MAJOR help. Also, so is knowing how to drive in tough situations off road.

I will post some pictures in my thread later.
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Old 05-26-2013, 07:00 PM   #8
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Yesterday I took my stock height 2013 JKU to a place with a group of guys with built up rigs. There were a couple of bypasses I took but I followed everyone pretty much everywhere. I have Ace Rock rails & the EVO protek skids. Those were 2 of my function mods I wanted first. I also swapped my stock SRA's for Rubicon take off tires that are the same size, just better tread pattern. I never got stuck. I did have to change my line a couple of times, but nobody had to pull me anywhere. I probably won the best use of skid plates award, but I had a blast. Another 2.5" of ground clearance would be awesome, but it is not in the cards right now. A stock Jeep will do quite a bit. I did however suffer 2 small wounds. First was I dented the steering stabilizer & second was I dented the passenger side front bumper. Luckily the dent is where I am going to stubby the bumper anyways. Here are some pics one of the guys took of me.







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Stock Wranglers do OK. Jeep used to test them on thje Rubicon Trail. The YJ, the TJ, and the JK Wranglers have all been over that trail in stock trim. With really expert drivers, stock Jeeps sustain minor damage on such a trail.

There is of course a huge difference between an SE model on stock LT205R15 tires (about 27" diameter) and a Rubicon on LT245R16 tires (about 31"). The 2" extra clearance means a lot fewer dings on suspension and powertrain pieces.

The driver makes the most difference.
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Old 05-26-2013, 08:55 PM   #10
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I have a stock 2013 JKU Sport with Stock 32" tires and it has done everything I've asked it to do without any issues. I drove over the Santa Ana mountains for 6 hours in 4Lo with the AC on. It didn't even blink.
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If anyone can tell you what a stock jeep can do, itd be me. My 2012 4 door Sahara has been stock for a long time (it isn't now). I've done things in that jeep that I never would of imagined I could do. I've always said to myself "Yeah, I'll drive over that when I have a lift and tires". Yeah right. I've kicked the hell out of 90% of the trails that I've been on, and were talking blues here, not your greens. I've shut up plenty of rubicon drivers on the trail as well. The Jeep doesn't need to be "modded" to such an extent to be able to do extreme things, it's just needs to be "tuned" (if I can say that.). Let me explain, while everyone on my trail runs has 35's and 3" lifts, I air down, disconnect, and watch my footing and gas. I turn the wheels a certain way, and I give a certain amount of gas to allow the BLD to do its thing, while at the same time I'm watching these guys begin to cry inside knowing that I can take my stocker where they can barely take their modded jeeps. Sorry for the rant, I was into a similar argument about stock jeeps earlier this week. Bottom line, off roading in a Wrangler is a science. There is no set in stone way to do it, you just need to understand and gain experience, and you will conquer anything in your way, one way or the other.
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Old 05-27-2013, 04:18 PM   #13
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The pics you put up are they wheeling in Ft Hood?
I was there way back in the day.
Did a lot of wheeling with Uncle Sams Jeeps(Lght Vehicle Driver)
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:18 AM   #14
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The pics you put up are they wheeling in Ft Hood?
I was there way back in the day.
Did a lot of wheeling with Uncle Sams Jeeps(Lght Vehicle Driver)

No you can not wheel on Fort Hood anymore.

These are from Brazos Valley Off Road Ranch in Bryan,TX
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How would a stock jeep do in the sand? Not sand dunes, just local beaches where they advise 4x4 only? Its usually pretty un packed and all over the place
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How would a stock jeep do in the sand? Not sand dunes, just local beaches where they advise 4x4 only? Its usually pretty un packed and all over the place
You'll be fine. Air down to 15 or less, 4wdlo, and have a blast. You might scratch your belly a little but not a big deal. There are tons of stock jeeps at our local over sand beach.
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While I didn't drive mine on the beach this weekend, our park has lots of loose sand and fine fine sandy gravel. I do not have off road tires, and I was running at 45psi, 4lo, pretty much coasted right through.
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We took a buddy with us on the trails this weekend in his bone stock 13 Moab 4dr. we left it at camp for the "probable body damage" trails but one hill in particular impressed us all. very steep uphill with loose rock, a frontier on 35's locked in the rear had to air down to make it up and my 37's were throwing rocks. I was just in front of the moab and got to the top and got out expecting to have to do some pulling. he was right behind me.

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We took a buddy with us on the trails this weekend in his bone stock 13 Moab 4dr. we left it at camp for the "probable body damage" trails but one hill in particular impressed us all. very steep uphill with loose rock, a frontier on 35's locked in the rear had to air down to make it up and my 37's were throwing rocks. I was just in front of the moab and got to the top and got out expecting to have to do some pulling. he was right behind me.

Tweak, where did you go wheeling at?

Also, do you carry this horse head around in your bronco often? lol
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I have had my bone stock 2002 Jeep Wrangler Sport on some basic trails and have had no issues what so ever. These things were designed to be capable as basic right off the lot rigs. Upgrades do help with some of the more extreme trails, however basic to intermediate trails, with a good driver and a good line a stock Jeep will go most any place you want to take her...
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No you can not wheel on Fort Hood anymore.

These are from Brazos Valley Off Road Ranch in Bryan,TX
Hey I'm in Bryan also, I live off of Leonard rd....I've never heard of this place and am extremely new to riding trails....but I've got the bug!
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Hey I'm in Bryan also, I live off of Leonard rd....I've never heard of this place and am extremely new to riding trails....but I've got the bug!
I sent you a PM
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Tweak, where did you go wheeling at?

Also, do you carry this horse head around in your bronco often? lol
wait a minute....who is this! Im pretty sure I took that picture!

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