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Old 04-02-2009, 04:34 PM   #1
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Need Help Buying a Jeep: New vs. Old

I need some of your advice about buying Wrangler, I am trying to decide whether to buy a New JK either X or Rubi Unlimited (family) or a CJ5 1975 or less for no Smog req.

I am beginner 4x4er havenít been it 15 yrs. Also I am not very mechanical. I will probably only go 1-2 month, I figure I may get to more intermediate/adv later but prob take awhile. Mostly use it for mud, streams, trails, and some rocks.

If I buy new it will be both my dd (20min commute) and offroad, if I buy old it will only be offroad. I want to know the trade-offs for each. Cost, Repairs, etc...

BTW the only reason I am considering new is for the lifetime warranty so also I wanted to know if you can get any used wranglers with that same lifetime warranty?

Thanks for your help

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Old 04-02-2009, 05:33 PM   #2
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From what you are describing, you would be better off with a new one....you have to have some mechanical know-how if you buy an old CJ

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Old 04-02-2009, 05:34 PM   #3
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Oh i almost forgot...welcome to the forum
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:41 PM   #4
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The oldest jeep I would consider buying would be a 91 YJ with the inline 6. cj frames are weak as are the axles, steering, leafs, and motor (not to mention it is carburated). plus they are OLD and would require ALOT of high maintenance.

and this is a wrangler forums so my answer is a little biased

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Old 04-02-2009, 05:42 PM   #5
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thanks for the reply and the welcome. Regarding the mechanical piece is there a lot of work required constantly for a CJ? And TBH i probably would spend over $3K for an old CJ.
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first off, if your only desire of buying a new jk is the warranty, forget that. that warranty is not that great, and what happens if they get bought out or worse? that warranty is a lot of bs.

that being said you are now talking about the other side of the sepctrum. i love cj's, i'm a professional full time mechanic, and i don't have the time to keep one running. thats why i love my yj's and xj and mj. i like what someone said, 91-95 yj. fuel injected and reliable.

i'm not a fan of the new vehicles, way too computerized and way too much to go wrong.

oh yeah, rubicon though is the only way to go.
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You answered my question before i asked it you guys are good

Ok so if i go new and i plan on keeping this jeep for 8-10+ yrs basically until it blows up. Would i better off getting a rubi because dont really know how to upgrade it myself or is the additional cost truly a waste?
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nope, rubi is the only thing jeep has gotten right out of the box in a long time, and it took them long enough
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Yes the warranty is a big deal, so you think it is worthless because of the Chrysler fiasco.

Also someone told me that TJ generation is suppose to better because of the wheel base, is that true?

So you are saying that TJ Rubi is the best bang for my buck due to my lack of kung fu skills
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The Rubi is the way to go if you can afford it. The X model is nowhere near as capable as the Rubi but can be upgraded over time to be just as good as one. That being said you really don't need a Rubi as a beach comber. It has a bunch of goodies that don't do anything on sand.
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Yes the warranty is a big deal, so you think it is worthless because of the Chrysler fiasco.

Also someone told me that TJ generation is suppose to better because of the wheel base, is that true?

So you are saying that TJ Rubi is the best bang for my buck due to my lack of kung fu skills
i say the warranty is bs cuz of that, and they've hyped it up way better than it is. a powertrain warranty is just gonna cover the engine and trans, and the years down the road if that ever comes up they are guaranteed to worm out of it, lets see your maintenance records and so on. they are in business to make money, sell jeeps, but not fix them for free.

i'm a little old school, but i'd say a rubicon tj is a better bang for the buck than a jk.
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I ended up with a 95 YJ. I was able to find many well kept vehicles with under 100K miles (mine had 49K when I bought it). It's my DD so I chose a relatively stock vehicle but there are many out there that have already been rigged up. I'm new to this hobby too. I can tell you that the fuel injected YJ's are about as old as I myself was willing to go (who wants to tweak a carb every day?). If I open the hood on my YJ though it's still all pretty basic stuff. There's no rocket science and there's plenty of room to climb in and get dirty. I also have an Accord...I would never even consider turning a wrench on that thing except for changing the brakes and/or obvious stuff that was easy to get to.

My buddy got a JK (X model) about a week before I got my YJ. He went that route specifically for the warranty and a 7K off deal. He told me straight up after being in my ride for <1 minute that it felt 'authentic'. I would totally(!) love to have four doors for the family but I feel like I made the right choice in the end. From a financial perspective, I bought mine cash down. If I had gone the JK route I would have been making payments for quite some time.
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I have owned both new and old Jeep. The old one's will require some work. Also figure the the newest CJ rolled off the line in 1986. So ALL of the bolts are rusted in place. I have owned two CJ7's. Loved them both, but they always needed something done, tweak this tweak that etc. Nothing wrong with that, if you have the time energy and money.

As for the TJ's. like anything there are good deals to be found and not so good. The nice Thing about TJs is they are newer, they require less effort to maintain and wheel great in stock form. Get one with the rear dana 44 axle. Has metal drain plug vs. plastic one.

JK's are the new kid on the block.. They wheel great and ride nice and you can get some great deals on them right now. I know I would enjoy having a unlimited myself but not in the cards right now.

Thus I would look into a 2000 and up TJ, maybe even a rubicon, and if you need a bit more room for family.. the unlimited.. I have seen rubicon models priced really nicely around here.. under 15k, has stuff you may not need but well worth it if you find the right deal as it will be thousands to add that stuff to a base TJ.
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Thanks for your input i am really enjoying your discussion. you guys are giving me a lot to think about i am not sure what i am going to do yet.

But i think i am going to take the CJ off the table, because i think i wouldn't enjoy it much due to the constant maintenance

So now i am going to look into either getting a TJ or a JK, and i am going to re-evaluate this warranty thing too, jpdocdave tks for your input on that.

Lastly is there a big difference between the YJ & TJ?

Because i heard that the TJ has a better wheelbase is that true or is there other things to consider between those too.

If the YJ is a good option what is the earliest year i should consider?

This is a great forum BTW thanks for all the help
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Mines pretty old (98) but every time i go by the dealerships around here im so tempted to get a brand new 4dr all pimpppped! No $$ for that though and you really do get attached to your jeep no matter how old it is so.
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Just to put in my 2 cents, there aint nothing wrong with an old jeep. My dad drove around my carberated 82 J20 with a 360 V8 for years. Then i bought it after it sat for 3 years, rebuilt the carb, and drove it around for a year and a half without carb adjustment. Just get rid of the stupid electric choke. Only problem was its a gas guzzler. Then I bought my 98 wrangler. No regrets on either.

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