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Old 04-12-2009, 08:52 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Nervous about Bankruptcy? Supposed to be picking up JK tomorrow

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I have my deal to go through with tomorrow with a 09 4-door Rubicon, and I just got finished being blasted with headlines and news reports about the strong possibility of a complete Cerberus/Chrysler bankruptcy scheduled for 4/30. Of course, I have been staying up with this issue, but no one wants to board a sinking ship. I know everyone has their own feeling about this, and I am not a nervous individual, but I am still concerned about short and long term effects of this.

Will their be any local Jeep service/repair/maintenance/parts shops?

Who will swoop in and pick up the Jeep line? Will there be a merger or just a complete sell-off the lucrative Jeep line of vehicles only? I have a strong feeling that at least the Jeep line, especially the Wranglers will have a solid company willing to step in and take the reins as needed to keep this legendary and extremely loyal brand of truck around for decades to come.

I just don't want to have to travel to Mexico City or Korea to get warranty repair work completed.

Maybe this pending doom means I should negotiate a better deal tomorrow or just threaten to walk out. I know I definitely asking for both the Jeep Slush mats and the Freedom Top storage bag. I see that as extremely reasonable if you ask me. Who knows, I might buying one of the last Rubi's ever sold...... LOL....

Parts? Who needs OEM factory parts when we have so many 3rd party suppliers?

I wonder if our mighty government will honor our lifetime powertrain warranty?

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Mine is less than a year old. I don't worry about Chrysler. If they died tomorrow, I will still own my jeep and it will still be getting me around. Just like the ones built in 1999, 1989, 1979... Willys begot AMC begot Chrysler begets? I get to have my dream car no matter what happens to the plant where it was made.

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Hey AndyLA, Don't worry about it, they won't close, it will become a reorganization....Just because one goes bankrupt doesn't mean anything other then wiping out debt. If you or I did we'd still be here in the morning just without debt! Fiat is just waiting for them to clear their slate of all the debt and then will probably take over - Buy your jeep and have a good time and remember that alot of the parts on that truck are Mercedes!
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Hey AndyLA, Don't worry about it, they won't close, it will become a reorganization....Just because one goes bankrupt doesn't mean anything other then wiping out debt. If you or I did we'd still be here in the morning just without debt! Fiat is just waiting for them to clear their slate of all the debt and then will probably take over - Buy your jeep and have a good time and remember that alot of the parts on that truck are Mercedes!
LOL name one part that is Mercedes

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Old 04-12-2009, 10:58 PM   #5
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Also your warrenty is throught a seperat Office I found out and that your warrenty will still be honored if the do become the biggest loser
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The tranny, the steering pump...
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Old 04-13-2009, 05:53 AM   #7
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Hey guys- this notion has been hit on plenty. If Chrysler goes into liquidation (worst case, and unlikely), someone else WILL buy Jeep- it's a profitable brand with a name known the world over for bringing Americans to invade their country, and for being tough, dependable, and going anywhere.
On a sad note, the Compass might go away if that happens Sniff...
There will ALWAYS be someone to fix it, parts that stop being available via OEM suppliers would be made by someone aftermarket for sure, and some of the dealerships would stay open as other brands' stores.
In short, life goes on- buy a Jeep, and love it Mark W.
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Bankrupcy would be much better than a saleout. Like Duke said, they would just regroup with no debt.
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:53 AM   #9
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The thought of bankruptcy does not concern me merely bc it is Jeep. Now, if I owned a Durango or Chevy Cobalt, I may be concerned. Then again, I would never own those
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I am also looking to buy a new Wrangler. I am waiting to the end of the month to buy one though. If Chrysler files, I think the prices will come down considerably since everyone will be worried about the warranty, and parts. I will still buy, but I think prices will come down a couple thousand dollars.
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^ I've said it before, and will keep saying it- there is NO BETTER DEAL than EPP. Period. Short of stealing the damn thing, that's as low as prices will go.
The ONLY way to beat that is get incentives IF you have a DIRECT RELATIVE that works for Chrysler. Period. No month-to-month incentive can beat EPP unless they go into liquidation (UNLIKELY) and are practically giving them away.
Prices will not go down any. Buy now, and help Chrysler not have to file Chapter 11!
HAH... sorry- really tired of hearing that attitude- nothing personal, swamper, but that's just not going to happen- Mark W.
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Old 04-13-2009, 10:59 AM   #12
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LOL name one part that is Mercedes

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many parts are daimler now, every plastic peice inside and all the electronics and interior crap is all their doing.

and if they go bankrupt i agree with everyone, all it does is screw everyone they owe money to, and they keep making crappy vehicles. united air lines did it, bankrupt. all the stock holders and all the debtors got nothing, and then they opened trading under uaw at $30 . not really fare but thats what happens.
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OK, down I go at 4:30 to get it done. I am trading in a vehicle, so my net financed will be in the $15k range. Plan on doing 0% or possibly the 4yr option. Wish it was 0% for 5 years! :P I know that I will get a ton of use out of this Jeep and I am excited about it.

Hopefully before it gets dark, I will have a pic of my new ride sitting in my garage.
(for all of you picture seekers --- hell it is stock for heaven's sake, don't get too excited! LOL)

I am going to ask about throwing in the Freedom Top storage bag.....how should I handle this request? I was going to say, "I didn't haggle with you on the prices, and I have been completely professional...I have one request for a toss-in and that is the Mopar storage case for my freedom top" ---

Any suggestions? Do they sometimes just surprise you with 'freebies' --- or is that just wishful thinking???
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^ sounds good, i wouldn't expect any freebie suprises though. go about it like you said. and they'll still realize they have the sale and say no. at least get some free car washes or something.
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Man, that's harsh..... LOL

I guess I could add it to the price of the Jeep at the time of purchase?
Should I add the case and the slush mats, can I do this and anything else to think about?
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Ask them for a certain percent off on mopar accessories. Some dealership will do it if you buy them the first day and sometimes as far as the first year....
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Cool Our government

I have heard that our government () will step in to make sure all warranties, parts etc...are all covered. I would not worry about buying a new Jeep!!
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socialized warranty repairs that would be great....um yes, your check engine light is on, and it runs rough...ok, we can see your jeep in 4 weeks @ 12 o'clock on thursday.....oh you have to work......next appointment isn't for 9 weeks then.
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many parts are daimler now, every plastic peice inside and all the electronics and interior crap is all their doing.
Daimler never made any plastic pieces for any of the Chrysler products. I love it how people come on these boards thinking they know everything about Jeeps, and every other vehicle there is. I worked for Mercedes for 5 years and I can tell you there is not 1 single Mercedes part on your Jeep Wrangler.

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Daimler never made any plastic pieces for any of the Chrysler products. I love it how people come on these boards thinking they know everything about Jeeps, and every other vehicle there is. I worked for Mercedes for 5 years and I can tell you there is not 1 single Mercedes part on your Jeep Wrangler.

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haha, you're right, there isn't one single mercedes part on any of my jeeps.

daimler owns chrysler....the styling cues, and manufacturing has been directly changed, and determined by daimler on all chrysler vehicles. not saying the plastic panel rolled out from germany, it came from their super intelligent brains determining how to update the jeep brand.
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Dailmer only owns 19.9% of Chrysler. Only reason they still own that much is because of the "like" products that the have in common are still being made, (i.e. Motor/Trans Chrysler 300) which is Mercedes developed. They had absolutly no part of the Jeep Wrangler.
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I Think all you dumba@%'s are hilarious!!!!!!!I just wanted to see how far that would go!!!! I riled you Alabaman's up! How ficken funny! At least they don't put crappy plastic fenders on their cars!!!!!!Or is there something I'm missin in your five years of experience?
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your saying daimler had nothing to do with this?



here's the admittedly daimler 300 to verify similarity

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They Had everything to do with that! Chrysler just made it cheap!
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On May 8/98, Chrysler merged with Daimler/Benz (36 billion) making Daimler/Benz a 57% Stock holder (thus making them IN CHARGE), they never owned or currently owned anything of 19.9% Recently Daimler/Benz DUMPED Chrsyler and let them fall, Thus, allowing what is currently happening......Their balanced sheet sucked! Do I need to continue?

Buy your jeep and have fun with it, someone (Fiat) will pick up there broken bones and start over.......
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LOL.....well got her home tonight........dark as @$!@ for photos....but I will sneak into the garage and see what I can work out in a few minutes.... :P
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That's great!
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I can tell you that it is not the products as much as the people working at these dealerships that have screwed up this company. My experience was horrible at the dealership and I intend on sending a letter straight to the owner of the dealership today.
The manager not once, never --- even introduced himself and totally ignored me throughout the entire process. When calculating my trade-in, when I was telling him all of the extras and add-ons I had done, he just walked off like an arrogant jerk.

The finance guy kept trying to screw me around and tossed in a "secret" $1200 warranty I never asked for....then the sales guy didn't even know how anything worked, nothing on the JK. Not how to take the tops off, how the NAVI functioned or even where the drain plugs were....just felt like I was at an auto auction and not a dealership.

I have no regrets with my Jeep purchase, but I know exactly why they are facing bankruptcy. People deserve to be treated better...
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Yeah- I know how that goes, amigo. I'm sure I made some folks feel like that when I first started. At LEAST I could figure out a TOUCH SCREEEN navi- der! And I'd just show them how to do what anyone would know how to do- point stuff out as I saw it! BS is a wonderful thing
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On May 8/98, Chrysler merged with Daimler/Benz (36 billion) making Daimler/Benz a 57% Stock holder (thus making them IN CHARGE), they never owned or currently owned anything of 19.9% Recently Daimler/Benz DUMPED Chrsyler and let them fall, Thus, allowing what is currently happening......Their balanced sheet sucked! Do I need to continue?

Buy your jeep and have fun with it, someone (Fiat) will pick up there broken bones and start over.......
Do a little research they CURRENTLY own 19.9% of Chrysler.

Thanks have a great day.

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