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Old 12-12-2012, 01:04 PM   #1
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Never Wheel Alone

Here is another grim reminder why you should never wheel alone. This woman was very lucky, her boyfriend was not.

Snowstorm survivor made video to say goodbye to her boys - TODAY News

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This is a great story and should be moved to general discussion. This is a reason why I carry one of these, alone or in groups:

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$20 a month is nothing to dying in a snow drift.

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hadnt seen the inreach before. looks nice.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:41 PM   #4
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This is a great story and should be moved to general discussion. This is a reason why I carry one of these, alone or in groups:

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$20 a month is nothing to dying in a snow drift.
I use spot connect, it clips to the loop at the center of the top of the windshield, and I keep a few sets of spare batteries in the glove compartment.

It also posts a link on FB, so if I ever were to be in trouble people on FB would see it. One time my wife accidentally clicked the wrong message & I had 20 calls in a few minutes... Felt dumb, but it was good to see so much response. I know my friends will call each other & figure out a solution.
This was a message I sent off when I was in distress a few weeks ago (driving through NE... it's distressing)
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I'll probably switch to the inreach for the two way message capability this year.

Btw, the inreach is only $9.95 for the basic plan which gives you 10 or 20 messages a month... more than enough for most situations. I pop off spot messages here & there and doubt I've ever gone over 5 a month.

I had to use my spot for real once in the backcountry, had a rider with a broken back on a day we were filming, and it worked better than I would have ever imagined. They had people there pretty quickly, and they changed plans as they saw our signal move toward the trailhead... impressive.
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Very moving story!! Thanks for the post.
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Yeah, the $10 plan is all you really need in emergencies. I like the unlimited canned messages. I have mine set up to let my wife know when I arrived, when I am done and heading home for the day, and the third for delayed, no emergency.

I also have mine set up to send in position tracks every 10 minutes. This is also unlimited on the $24 plan. This way she (or my kids or anyone else I give permission to) can log into the website and see where I am. I also travel a lot internationally, so I can send messages and positions even when abroad.

I work for a mobile telematics company that offers the same type of product although cell based. Having the security of the Iridium system is much better.
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thread should have been called "Never wheel alone while stupid"

"without water, blankets, cold weather gear"

Hey, we've got 4 wheel drive, we can do anything....
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Yeah, the $10 plan is all you really need in emergencies. I like the unlimited canned messages. I have mine set up to let my wife know when I arrived, when I am done and heading home for the day, and the third for delayed, no emergency.

I also have mine set up to send in position tracks every 10 minutes. This is also unlimited on the $24 plan. This way she (or my kids or anyone else I give permission to) can log into the website and see where I am. I also travel a lot internationally, so I can send messages and positions even when abroad.

I work for a mobile telematics company that offers the same type of product although cell based. Having the security of the Iridium system is much better.
Summer before last my wife was working on the upper Colorado doing photography(she's a teacher, this was a summer gig), and we would meet in Silverthorne each afternoon & ride home together. No cell service, so we had the canned messages programmed for everything from "on time" to "2 hours late" in 30 min increments as it took her almost an hour to get from where she finished shooting to cell service.

She'd also send "having a good day, nice & sunny" to "crappy weather, yuck" The canned messages were way handy.
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Here is another grim reminder why you should never wheel alone. This woman was very lucky, her boyfriend was not.

Snowstorm survivor made video to say goodbye to her boys - TODAY News
Thanks for sharing Tom, good reminder
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:14 PM   #10
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First mistake was not having blankets, heat pads, water, snacks and warm clothes. Second mistake was leaving the vehicle. I have been told many, many times...never, ever leave your vehicle if you get stuck. I wonder what kind of tires they had?

I had a lady once help me out of a snow drift by squirting bleach on my tires....I didn't beleive her at first, but after she squirted the bleach on my tires and I pulled out of the drift....I thought...DAMN!!!
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haven't heard the bleach trick before
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Sadly, I expect to see this sort of thing becoming a more common occurrence. It wasn't really that long ago that most "off-roading enthusiasts" had some sort of background or experience in the great outdoors. Since Jeep introduced 4 doors to their line-up sales have grown exponentially and their primary demographic has changed drastically. Most people buying Jeeps today have no business taking them off-road as they don't have the knowledge or experience to do so. Personally, I carry everything I would need to survive quite comfortably for 10 days (even longer not so comfortably). I also carry not 1, but 2 PLB's. Call it overkill but when the battery goes dead on one or it simply doesn't work for whatever reason, I've got a back-up. Of course we always have 2 fully charged cell phones but as we all know those are worthless most of time.

Forums like this are a great place to meet and learn from those who do have experience but let's face it most people buying Jeeps today are not on these forums. I do occasionally wheel alone but I know my limitations and I don't do things or go places I would when wheeling in a group.

Twice this year I came across 2 separate vehicles (both were alone) that got themselves into a predicament they weren't getting themselves out of. Both were in places they had no business being considering how their vehicles were equipped. If I or someone else hadn't happened upon them they could have easily met with the same fate of the couple in the story posted by Tom.

People see these commercials on TV and videos on-line and think they can drop by their local Jeep dealer, pick up a Jeep and head out to conquer the wilderness. As I said, in the beginning of this post sadly we're going to see this happening more frequently.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:25 AM   #13
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Great post Tom!
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Sadly, I expect to see this sort of thing becoming a more common occurrence. It wasn't really that long ago that most "off-roading enthusiasts" had some sort of background or experience in the great outdoors. Since Jeep introduced 4 doors to their line-up sales have grown exponentially and their primary demographic has changed drastically. Most people buying Jeeps today have no business taking them off-road as they don't have the knowledge or experience to do so. Personally, I carry everything I would need to survive quite comfortably for 10 days (even longer not so comfortably). I also carry not 1, but 2 PLB's. Call it overkill but when the battery goes dead on one or it simply doesn't work for whatever reason, I've got a back-up. Of course we always have 2 fully charged cell phones but as we all know those are worthless most of time.

Forums like this are a great place to meet and learn from those who do have experience but let's face it most people buying Jeeps today are not on these forums. I do occasionally wheel alone but I know my limitations and I don't do things or go places I would when wheeling in a group.

Twice this year I came across 2 separate vehicles (both were alone) that got themselves into a predicament they weren't getting themselves out of. Both were in places they had no business being considering how their vehicles were equipped. If I or someone else hadn't happened upon them they could have easily met with the same fate of the couple in the story posted by Tom.

People see these commercials on TV and videos on-line and think they can drop by their local Jeep dealer, pick up a Jeep and head out to conquer the wilderness. As I said, in the beginning of this post sadly we're going to see this happening more frequently.

I think this general trend is common in many sports & activities though now.

People seem to have an elevated sense of acceptable risk level, or a decreased sense of that risk anyhow. We see stupid & crazy nonstop on TV, and we see people living more " on the edge"... and folks want to get in on that.

I see this same general trend in sledding (a sport than can easily kill you) kayaking (a sport that can kill you even easier), downhill mountain biking, and a few other high risk things I do. People come out & think they can do what someone else is doing, without the years of background that the other guy has which allows him to do it safely & in a calculated manner.
If my wife drops a cornice that's 50', I can nearly guarantee some yahoo guy who is watching will go try, despite not having the skill she has. Often they get hurt, and we end up helping them.

I think it's the same kind of thing in this sport, we see people going some crazy places & just assume since we've got the "same vehicle" we can do the same, forgetting all the preparation & experience that guy has.

I think it's going to keep getting worse, as the jackass/ nitro circus watching crowd (hey, I watch those shows too) gets out there they want to push & they will continue to, imo.
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There are Jeep owners that shouldn't wheel alone. I've gone days without seeing another rig, just my own dust.
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thread should have been called "Never wheel alone while stupid"

"without water, blankets, cold weather gear"

Hey, we've got 4 wheel drive, we can do anything....
Yeah exactly. I wheel alone all the time in extreme places, but I carry survival gear with me everywhere I go. If I was stuck in a snowstorm for 4 days the worst that would happen to me is I'd get a bit hungry.

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