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Old 09-27-2012, 12:19 PM   #1
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Cool New(8months) tie rod already loose?! No way!

I've tried doing my research far and wide across the www, and all I can find is if its loose, then it is worn, replace it. I can grab the tube and twist the whole assembly back and forth pretty easily with my hands. Full new tie rod assembly and stabilizer 8 months ago, 1k-2k miles maybe, and taken down a bumby dirt road a couple times( I've been busy I know I'm slacking) but nothing extreme. I am no mechanic but I try and get in there and fix what I can but with steering I don't want to mess around. Is the part worn already or should I say defective? Or can I just tighten it back up?

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:22 PM   #2
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Your clamps holding your tie rod are loose. When you move that tube you are adjusting your toe. It really isn't safe to drive, take it somewhere if you haven't done an alignment before.

I wouldn't drive it unless you tighten that down.

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:30 PM   #3
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What do you mean "twist the tube?" Is the tube spinning, or just is the whole tie rod rocking back and forth? If it is just rocking back and forth, that is normal because the tie rod ends are not fixed, they are supposed to move.
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Here is a video of normal movement. If a part is actually spinning, then something is loose.

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Old 09-27-2012, 01:37 PM   #5
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It is rocking back and forth, or like in the video, wiggling. Only mine is wiggling twice as much. I am not driving it, but when I last did, and what caused me to investigate was when going straight or even sitting parked when turning the wheel to either direction the first inch or 2 was nice and tight then became quite loose after passing a certain point.
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:40 AM   #6
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:32 AM   #7
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That joint is missing the rubber boot. Water and dirt have gotten into it. Ya.. its probably shot now.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:01 PM   #8
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I know we all need to start somewhere with wrenching abilities. Who incorrectly changed it in the first place?
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Old 09-30-2012, 01:05 AM   #9
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Hard to believe it's all grimy and rusted after a 1 k miles, definitely not defective. Just no rubber boot.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:38 AM   #10
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Checked under there not long ago and saw the boot was still there, maybe a week no boot I would say. Still shot? Was it a poor install that caused the boot to come off after that short period of time and miles? If so mechanic is going to have to take all charges on this one.
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:24 PM   #11
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Sinergy (sp?) sells boots.....nice red ones....
You can save it if it has a grease fitting. Pump it up and purge that old grease out...stay out of water or mud holes or dust and dirty roads or pavement... til you get a boot back on it or replace it.
1) Remove the wheel, use jack stands, work safe
2) remove the cotter pin and loosen the nut til it's almost off
3) take two (2) good sized hammers
4) Swing and strike the forging that the rod end fits into hitting it on each side of the Tie Rod end at the SAME TIME ... Whack it good !!
The tie rod will fall out of the hole and hang on the nut...Takes just a few minutes, no special tools, no irritating "pickle fork" or puller needed...
Been doin it for over 40 years.... works for me. "BH"
PS: better take some measurements before you do this if you plan to put it back where it was ...
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Can't save it if its allready loose.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:28 PM   #13
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Ohhhh, I thought it was just dirty and the boot got ripped off......
OK , Throw it away and buy new....
Better change all of em, so ya got grease fittings.
The life of Jeeperz..... Yep, I need to do mine too, I like grease fittings and grease guns, since I bought these new Vehicles...All my grease guns just hang there with no purpose.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:42 PM   #14
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The looseness was just the twist it is suppose to have, the extra twist was because of the missing boots I believe. I buddy of mine told me how to test if the joint is actually worn by seeing if I am able to actually move the entire rod up and down which made sense when I got down there and did it. I don't believe it is which is good, It seemed very tight in the joint itself and I wasn't able to move it a bit. What are your thoughts on this Baby Huey?

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The looseness was just the twist it is suppose to have, the extra twist was because of the missing boots I believe. I buddy of mine told me how to test if the joint is actually worn by seeing if I am able to actually move the entire rod up and down which made sense when I got down there and did it. I don't believe it is which is good, It seemed very tight in the joint itself and I wasn't able to move it a bit. What are your thoughts on this Baby Huey?

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Thank You !!
As far as the Jeep goes....I guess it's your call. If you can get a new boot and you can clean that one up, go for it..
You might check a Auto Parts and see if they have new boots avail.....
Good luck there Pal..... JN

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