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Old 12-05-2013, 11:33 AM   #1
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New jeep cherokee

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I don't think the new Cherokees look bad but I think they look just like the new Ford Escape, Honda CRV, Hyundai Santa Fe, and on and on and on. I think Jeep will sell a bunch of them but I don't think most of them will ever leave the pavement.

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I actually like them. I had to drive a Chrysler 200 with one of the new autos and I didn't like that so I am hoping the Cherokee is not the same.

It felt like a motorcycle, whining then shifting, dropping maybe 1K rpms then back up. I swear I thought I was riding my 2 stroke quadracer again.
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I think they're a hideous looking cookie cutter SUV not worthy of the Cherokee name.
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Fiat is going to ruin the Jeep name
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One day I would like to have two Jeeps sitting in the garage.

That new Cherokee certainly will not be one of them.
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I'm not fond of the looks of the front end.

It's not a bad crossover in that it's more capable on rutted dirt roads than others in the segment.

It's not really worthy of the Cherokee name. But there hasn't been a vehicle worthy of that name since 1983 when they went away from a body on frame, V8 equipped, 1/2 ton chassis.

If I needed a 4 door daily driver with room for stuff, I'd much rather have a JKU than a Cherokee or Grand Cherokee (or any other SUV/crossover).
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I'm not fond of the looks of the front end.

It's not a bad crossover in that it's more capable on rutted dirt roads than others in the segment.

It's not really worthy of the Cherokee name. But there hasn't been a vehicle worthy of that name since 1983 when they went away from a body on frame, V8 equipped, 1/2 ton chassis.

If I needed a 4 door daily driver with room for stuff, I'd much rather have a JKU than a Cherokee or Grand Cherokee (or any other SUV/crossover).
I agree on the death of the real cherokee, but I accept this one as much as I did that abomination that everyone loves from the 80s/90s
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I agree on the death of the real cherokee, but I accept this one as much as I did that abomination that everyone loves from the 80s/90s
At least the XJ kept solid axles front and rear. Though they were puny toothpicks that would break with stock 28" tires.
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I like my XJ but not so much the new Cherokee and all its fuglieness
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If they had to use a newer-ish body style, they should've taken the Patriot's lines and made it larger. The Patriot at least kind of has the old XJ's lines.

I want to like the KL, but it just looks too much like everything else and it's car-based...There isn't much "Jeep" in it..
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Somebody on another forum said they just saw a Rav4 with a Jeep emblem on it.

I lol'd.
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I sat in it today and was not a fan of the shoulder room, but while in there I saw a lot of nice things. I hit my head getting out of it, so it is definitely smaller than the Grand Ch. I would not be interested in buying.
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Built on the new Dodge Dart platform witch is a rebadged Maserati. It looks ok but not a real Jeep.
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Built on the new Dodge Dart platform witch is a rebadged Maserati. It looks ok but not a real Jeep.

There is nothing quite like following GM's oh-so-successful playbook to automotive dominance...
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i would have to saay i aabsoulutly hate it,,---but i did see a trailhawk yesterday that looked good,,,,but i miss the old jeeps !!!!

we had a patriot back a few years ago, it was pretty nice got 30+mpg,s and went anywhere on road you put it..passed every 4x4 on a black iced hill that that tried to make it up and ours was a fwd,,,,lol
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:37 AM   #17
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I like it, seems to be a success to help Jeep overall. The high gas mileage may help Jeep keep the Wrangler like it should be.

Jeep Cherokee helps Chrysler sales growth as car sales rebound
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It will never last like my 2000 XJ
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If anything the Commander is more of a spiritual successor to the XJ than this thing they're calling a Cherokee. At least based on body appearances, I dont know too much about it.



Still, I personally don't like the way new Cherokee looks but from a business standpoint I can see where it will do well in the ever changing market. Although that being said I feel like in more recent years 4x4's have made a significant comeback in terms of sales.


Edit: Also if they're going to bring anything back, bring back the Comanche

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I think they're a hideous looking cookie cutter SUV not worthy of the Cherokee name.
The old Cherokee is gone...ya it was perfect for it's time, so buy a 4 door Wrangler JK and get over it.
I think the "new Cherokee" is just what Jeep wants it to be, if you're in that market go buy a CR V or the others you mentioned. If you really need a crossover type then buy the new "Real One" The Cherokee... it'll do stuff those others you mentioned can't even dream of!!!! There's still "only one"!!! I drove a Trailhawk with the V6 and it is a bit impressive. The more they sell the more Wranglers they can make for us!

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Didn't another thread cover all this... But yes I curse it and it's pathetic existence.
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Get a 1976 model! Thats a true american cherokee worthy of the jeep name
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Get a 1976 model! Thats a true american cherokee worthy of the jeep name
Hey Tom, didn't you get the message?
It was cool to drop the V-8, go from a full frame to a unibody, get as small as a car, and go from a 2 door to a 4 door.

But if you take that mini SUV family hauler / grocery getter and call it a car crossover instead of a unibody and its no longer a Jeep.
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But if you take that mini SUV family hauler / grocery getter and call it a car crossover instead of a unibody, make it front-wheel-drive, give it an independent suspension and its no longer a Jeep.
ftfy

But seriously, the XJ has been credited in many sources as being the quint-essential SUV of the 20th century. It was worthy of the name and despite being unibody, it was the spiritual successor of the original Cherokee in form and function.

The KL is not the spiritual successor to either the SJ or the XJ in form OR function. It'll be a fine vehicle for what it is, but it isn't an XJ replacement. The JKU is still the closest thing we've got to that and it'll probably be the closest thing we ever get to it.
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But seriously, the XJ has been credited in many sources as being the quint-essential SUV of the 20th century. It was worthy of the name and despite being unibody, it was the spiritual successor of the original Cherokee in form and function.

The KL is not the spiritual successor to either the SJ or the XJ in form OR function. It'll be a fine vehicle for what it is, but it isn't an XJ replacement. The JKU is still the closest thing we've got to that and it'll probably be the closest thing we ever get to it.
My last post on this topic because my opinion is in the minority. Calling the XJ the successor to the sj is simply wrong if for nothing else then the 2 door to 4 door move in my opinion. I feel as strongly about this as people who think the JKU is not a successor to the tj.

Like you think of the new cherokee, I think the xj is a fine vehicle in its own right, but not a successor to the sj. As much as you like the solid front axle, I like the full size. As much as you hate coil over, I hated losing the 2 door v8. Especially when the 4 door continued on for almost 10 more years as a full sized, V8 powered machine with a real frame.

In the end, if more people bought sjs, the French designed xj would never have been called a Cherokee and the sj would have stayed around longer. Likewise, if more people bought the old xj, the new one would be called a patriot and the xj would still be selling.
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My last post on this topic because my opinion is in the minority. Calling the XJ the successor to the sj is simply wrong if for nothing else then the 2 door to 4 door move in my opinion.
You're aware that the XJ was available as a 2-door as well, right?



By that same logic, the JK isn't the spiritual successor to the TJ because a 4-door is available, and neither are successors to the MB because they don't use inline 4s.

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Likewise, if more people bought the old xj, the new one would be called a patriot and the xj would still be selling.
That's not true either. The Wrangler is one of Chrysler's best selling vehicles. It's their ONLY vehicle that continued to sell well while they were going thru their financial issues a few years ago, and they're still going to neuter it in 2016...
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My last post on this topic because my opinion is in the minority. Calling the XJ the successor to the sj is simply wrong if for nothing else then the 2 door to 4 door move in my opinion. I feel as strongly about this as people who think the JKU is not a successor to the tj.

Like you think of the new cherokee, I think the xj is a fine vehicle in its own right, but not a successor to the sj. As much as you like the solid front axle, I like the full size. As much as you hate coil over, I hated losing the 2 door v8. Especially when the 4 door continued on for almost 10 more years as a full sized, V8 powered machine with a real frame.

In the end, if more people bought sjs, the French designed xj would never have been called a Cherokee and the sj would have stayed around longer. Likewise, if more people bought the old xj, the new one would be called a patriot and the xj would still be selling.
I'm a fan of the SJ as well.

My whole issue is that the SJ never went through any evolution. From the Kaiser days, all the way through AMC's tenure, and into Chrysler, the sheet metal never changed. The 1991 Grand Wagoneer had the exact same sheet metal stampings as the 1963 model. Sure, there were some minor tweaks over the years but what really killed the SJ is that no one ever bothered keep it modern.

Do you know why the 80's Grand Wagoneer used the vinyl wood stickers on it? I was told by the head of the Wrangler product line that the dies for the sheet metal stampings were so horribly worn out from decades of over use that they couldn't make a straight body panel. Slapping the vinyl on the body covered up a ton of imperfections so they didn't have to make new stamping dies.

The XJ was a fine vehicle in its own right. And yes, you could get a 2 door model. But it was a compact, light duty unibody Jeep. It was a significant departure from what the Cherokee was originally. In my (not so) humble opinion, Kaiser and AMC should have done more to modernize the SJ platform over the years to keep it relevant in the market. And, when AMC designed the XJ, they should have not given it the Cherokee name. But you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and guess which one will fill up first.

The old Cherokee is long gone. Both of them.

But, if this new Cherokee keeps the money flowing into the coffers at Jeep and that keeps the brand alive and viable so that they can continue to sell a solid axle Wrangler, I'm fine with the sacrifice.
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I don't understand why folks think that the new Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, or any other Jeep vehicle is going to keep funding solid-axle Wranglers, when the Wrangler has continually been one of Chrysler's top selling vehicles even without the new Cherokee. If anything, Chrysler/Fiat are going to unify the Wrangler into this stupid single-platform concept they've got going on, which they've already hinted at. Front-wheel-drive independently-suspended Wranglers, here we come!

Also I'm not really sure how the XJ was a compact SUV, considering pretty much every SUV of the era was about the same size, and the XJ pretty much kicked off the post-modern SUV era. Many "full-size" SUVs were designed and built to directly compete with the XJ--the Explorer, the Yukon/Post-K5 Blazer/Tahoe, a myriad of import SUVs in that segment, etc. It wasn't until SUVs seemed to get into a size race with the 'Burban, Expedition, Excursion, that the XJ started to look "compact"..But compared to those, so did everything else...
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I don't understand why folks think that the new Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, or any other Jeep vehicle is going to keep funding solid-axle Wranglers, when the Wrangler has continually been one of Chrysler's top selling vehicles even without the new Cherokee. If anything, Chrysler/Fiat are going to unify the Wrangler into this stupid single-platform concept they've got going on, which they've already hinted at. Front-wheel-drive independently-suspended Wranglers, here we come!

Also I'm not really sure how the XJ was a compact SUV, considering pretty much every SUV of the era was about the same size, and the XJ pretty much kicked off the post-modern SUV era. Many "full-size" SUVs were designed and built to directly compete with the XJ--the Explorer, the Yukon/Post-K5 Blazer/Tahoe, a myriad of import SUVs in that segment, etc. It wasn't until SUVs seemed to get into a size race with the 'Burban, Expedition, Excursion, that the XJ started to look "compact"..But compared to those, so did everything else...
It's not that the other vehicles will fund the Wrangler. But a brand with one offering, even one as popular as the Wrangler, isn't worth it to run. The overhead of a brand identity is huge. Having a wide variety of offerings under one brand helps distribute the costs of maintaining the bureaucracy. There's also the "I'm a fan of the brand but I can't fit a Wrangler into my life so I'll buy some other kind of Jeep" crowd out there. Giving them alternatives to the Wrangler helps keep the brand identity strong. If you keep the Jeep name brand relevant by offering the types of vehicles people want, you keep the brand that much more alive. And the more you do that, the easier it is to keep the Wrangler division focused on making the Wrangler.

On the other hand, if you drop all the other Jeeps there's no reason to keep the brand name alive. At that point you fold it into Chrysler. Now you have a Chrysler branded model instead of a Jeep branded model. And then it's easier to justify morphing the Wrangler into an independent suspension crossover vehicle.
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Is it even a matter of what people want? Or is it a matter of what they're willing to give people?

I'm sure people would have wanted a Patriot with at least one solid axle, a true 4WD system and something better than the 2.4L. But that isn't what happened, and they still sell like mad. Is it brand loyalty? No. It's the fact that it's pretty much the cheapest "SUV" you can get.

And I'm fine with that. I understand that they have to sell vehicles to keep the brand alive.

However, you don't take your centerpiece names--Cherokee, Wrangler, etc, and sacrifice them on the alter of "practicality" all for the sake of selling vehicles. Especially when, as it is now, the Wrangler is already one of Chrysler's top-selling vehicles and they're already talking about the next generation sharing parts with the car-based KL.

If Jeep dropped all other vehicles except the Wrangler, they'd probably still do pretty decently, considering they've sold 1+ million JKs in the last 7 years. If their profit is anything like it is on the WK, $10,000+ per unit, that'd be $10,000,000,000 PROFIT off of just JKs alone in the last 7 years.

You have to wonder how these companies find themselves in trouble.

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