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Old 02-15-2010, 09:32 PM   #1
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New wrangler advice

So I managed to find what looks like a good Wrangler located fairly closeby.
It's a 2000 Sahara Edition with Manual transmission, I've managed to get the seller down to $6200 it has 125,000 miles.

Almost forgot to mention it is a 4.0 6 cyl.

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Old 02-15-2010, 09:59 PM   #2
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Um, what's the question? Is this a good deal? Sounds like it. You rarely see 4.0 liters going for much less, and there's usually something wrong with them.

My WJ is a 2000 with 125,000 miles. Rust is starting to bubble in a couple of spots. Lots of creaks and rattles (nothing that noisy tires wouldn't cover). Engine seems fine. I guess what I'm saying, is you're buying a 10 year old car that's most likely been well used. Expect some things to be wrong. But it sounds like a good price for a collectible car, and it's got the right things: 4.0, sahara.

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Old 02-15-2010, 10:02 PM   #3
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Thanks Geoff, and yes I wanted to obtain some feedback as to whether it was a good deal. I opted to not have the hardtop which helped bring the price down.

The dealer replaced the transmission and it had the throw out bearing and clutch replaced within the last four years. The interior seems immaculate from the pics.
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There's a moment for all of us when we're about to buy a car: we've done all the research, we've looked at all the options, and we've made an emotional commitment. We can see ourselves driving this vehicle. And we look really gooooood.

Then doubt creeps in. "What if" scenarios start playing in our heads.

We all go through it. But at some point, you gotta buy it.

And then, almost guaranteed, three days later you'll see something better.

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Old 02-15-2010, 10:17 PM   #5
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Cheers Bud and very well said might I add!
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:29 PM   #6
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If your up north i would considered the hard top if your gonna be doing some winter driving... they are much nicer in the winter IMHO, i have both hard and soft and hard tops are harder to find and more expensive to buy so if you are going to want one you might as well get it with the Jeep to begin with, just my 2 cents
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I have a soft top, and it's not the winter that sometimes makes me wish for the hardtop. It's the noise. The heater has no problem keeping up with sub-zero temps, but in any weather with the top up, it's just really noisy, especially as you get up to highway speeds.

Also, as Geoff pointed out, Jeeps have a lot of creaks and rattles, they tend to rust in certain areas, but the 4.0 will last a good long time. I have a 1994, and there are so many loose bits rattling, especially with the potholes from this winter making the ride even more bumpy than usual. The good news is that it's 16 years old, has been punished at times off road, has made several long road trips, including an annual trip to Hatteras, and after 112,000 miles, I have spent very little beyond normal maintenance keeping her going. This has been one of the most reliable vehicles I've ever owned. She starts every time I turn the key. At this point, I expect things to start wearing out, and so far, I am amazed that some things are still going so strong.

So, I think it sounds like a good vehicle. I'd still haggle and try to get the price lowered, but you should look around your area at comparable vehicles to see what a similar vehicle is selling for first. I checked Kelley for this rig in my area, and here's what came up for private sale prices:

Excellent
$6,500

Good
$5,925

Fair
$5,200
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How much extra to include the hard top? That was the first thing I bought for my LJ, and I've never regretted it.
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Old 02-16-2010, 01:42 PM   #9
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Thanks for the valuable feedback.
I think he's asking $7000 with the HT, personally I don't mind the extra noise, my weekend or summer vehicle is a Lotus so I'm used to it.

Looking at other similar Wranglers dealers seem to have them listed at over $7800.
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Old 02-16-2010, 01:50 PM   #10
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$800 sounds high for a TJ hard top to me, but I have an LJ so I don't keep up with the TJ hard top costs.

Offer him $6700 with the hard top if you want it.
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Yeah I would say get the hard top because odds are you might want one some time down the road. I have a hard-top for winter and my soft top for summer. And I love how it looks both ways.

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