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Old 09-26-2008, 02:54 PM   #1
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NEW Wrangler announced! Good? or bad?

chrysler announced this week that in 2010 they are going to release 3 new electric cars, including an ALL electric Jeep Wrangler. What are your thoughts?

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A waste of their R&D money. A hybrid or all electric Wrangler makes no sense to me.

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doesn't really matter to me
I'll have my 97 forever!
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:47 PM   #5
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A full electric wrangler
what happens if you are out in the boonies and theres no place to plug it in
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:52 PM   #6
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doesn't really matter to me
I'll have my 97 forever!
Good point, I'll have my 06 till im dead and buried in it.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:56 PM   #7
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A full electric wrangler
what happens if you are out in the boonies and theres no place to plug it in
Maybe they'll sell it with the optional "Solar Soft Top". Or a large dynamo with a handle coming out of the tub somewhere.
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Maybe they'll sell it with the optional "Solar Soft Top". Or a large dynamo with a handle coming out of the tub somewhere.
That would be where the G/F or wife would come in handy. Keep cranking Honey, it's allmost charged.
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None of your available choices were right for me. I think it's a good added vehicle to the Jeep lineup since it's not going to replace the present gasoline powered Wrangler. Only if it were replacing the gasoline powered Wrangler, which it is not, would I have a problem with Jeep bringing out any kind of a vehicle it needs to remain in business and competitive.
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Maybe they'll sell it with the optional "Solar Soft Top".
I would actually like that haha
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None of your available choices were right for me. I think it's a good added vehicle to the Jeep lineup since it's not going to replace the present gasoline powered Wrangler. Only if it were replacing the gasoline powered Wrangler, which it is not, would I have a problem with Jeep bringing out any kind of a vehicle it needs to remain in business and competitive.
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I first heard about this from the local jeep club forum I visit. I could actually see me buying one of those JEEP EVs as my daily driver and keep my tj for real wheeling.

it has a 400 mile range using both the elec motor and the small gas motor together... or just use the elec motor for 40 mile range (comuting to work, getting groceries, etc).

weekdays I'd use the just the elec motor and save a ton on gas... weekends I'd use the gas motor coupled with the torquey (nearly 300lb tq) elect motor to run the mild trails out at table mesa. I think it would be cool! unrealistic and never will happen and maint. prices would be stupid high along with the cost to replace the batteries... but cool!

bring a tow strap and a friend... don't need a winch on mild trails
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The key is going to be solar cell development and thin film flex cells, yea, eventually there will be the ability to build a soft top out of solar cells.
If you look at the USG solar map almost the entire country would benefit from something like this. It's not until you get into new york state and new england that the solar exposure becomes an issue. Between more efficient solar cells and more and better storage it will be interesting. As far as recycling and the current bunch of hybrids I sure would not buy one used then have to cough up $3K - $5k for a pack replacement. I was reading an article from the UofMich that they had developed a solar cell that even works in the IR range now and got a 9% improvement over standard cells. I'm not a big fan of the power companies concept of putting a huge solar array in orbit then beaming down microwaves to a receiving station on the ground, one accidental or intentional screw up in aim could take out a small town.
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what happens if you are out in the boonies and theres no place to plug it in
Point it Down Hill and use the "Regenerative Braking"
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A full electric wrangler
what happens if you are out in the boonies and theres no place to plug it in
Um, the same thing that happens when you run out of gas in the boonies?
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electric motors do have some good torque from what i have been told.
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An electric motors torque is only limited by the power that it can pull from the batteries. We had an S10 in High School that would start off in 5th and get to 55 pretty quick. The only down side was the used batteries we were using, they would loose charge real quick. Fun little truck though, no vacuum assist for the brakes, I think the graduating class after us crashed it.
Id buy an electric wrangler, fill the back seat with batteries and go race vettes.
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lol i choose yes however i dont really care about the gas as much as it being clean for the environment. Also with an electric motor it will do way way better offroading than a gasoline one. WHY? They have tons of low end smooth torque. Electric motors are rated at continuous power meaning the power they output at a frozen rpm safetly without overheating. Their peak power is much higher but you cant use it continuously for long periods of time. Gasoline engines are rated at their PEAK power on a 5 second dyno run. Understand the difference?

At last gasoline cars are only about 20% efficient vs the 70-80% efficiency of the electrics. This means your monies actually go where you want them to go, not the tailpipe.

Our current solar cells wont do crap about generating enough electricity for our cars even if you left them in the sun all day.
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I won't be ditching my rubicon to switch, but 100 years ago, most farmers wouldn't want to dump their steam powered tractors for diesels either.

Besides, how many people do "we" know that drive a jeep on the concrete only? I'm not one and don't get that, but hey, if that's what they want to do.
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steven, how would you like to have 150-200 lb ft of torque by just touching the pedal without having to redline the engine?
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steven, how would you like to have 150-200 lb ft of torque by just touching the pedal without having to redline the engine?
I would. But i think hes talking bout his love for his jeep. I personally wont ever sell mine, BUT I may buy an electric for a DD full time and go nuts on my first jeep with a big V8
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I have heard of this.. there is no plug-ins to charge it.. I think it is bad ass.. and the torque and hp is suppose to be 30% more than the current wrangler.. The batterey charges itself through the wheels and acts like an alternator.

no gas.. it would be relolutionary.. but I dont think it will actually be full electric..
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idk, but in 2 years if I have the cash it sounds good
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also dont forget that when you're at a light and your gasoline engine is idling, that fuel goes to waste. With an electric hybrid, that fuel is used to charge up the batteries. I doubt they wont put a plug. He clearly says that the first 40 miles are emissions free (meaning only running on the batteries). Those 40 miles come from the charged up battery. Bpowa, the hybrids are so far the best design, you use them for electric vehicles but let say you run out of electricity, you do have a back up tiny gasoline motor
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I would. But i think hes talking bout his love for his jeep. I personally wont ever sell mine, BUT I may buy an electric for a DD full time and go nuts on my first jeep with a big V8
I don't normally see Tripp's posts but noticed from you quoting him tht he thought you had to redline the Jeep engine to see max torque... that's just the opposite, the Jeep sees peak HP at high rpms but not torque which is available throughly the engine's rpm range from about 1200 to around 4400 rpms where the torque curve is fairly flat.
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A lot of "green" ideas are crap. Battery powered cars are one of them. First, they are not zero emissions, they only displace emissions to the local electric plant unless you are charging off solar at home. Second, electric car batteries are just like the battery in your cell phone. After 3-5 years they don't hold a charge well anymore and need to be replaced. Those battery banks cost THOUSANDS of dollar to replace, making it basically a disposable vehicle after 5 yrs. Lastly, those old batteries are hugely toxic to the environment. I personally would rather deal with gas powered polution than millions of old car batteries and the toxic chemicals from them. I'll be glad to keep my Wrangler as is. However, I would be interested in seeing a CNG powered Jeep or conversion kit. I can live with $2 a gallon CNG.
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Lastly, those old batteries are hugely toxic to the environment. I personally would rather deal with gas powered polution than millions of old car batteries and the toxic chemicals from them.
Yup. I can't remember where I was reading it, but I did read that the Toyota Prius, despite its "green" reputation, is actually one of the worst cars for the environment just in the way its built (the battery, mainly). Ironically, they listed the Jeep Wrangler as one of the most "eco-friendly" cars for the same reason.

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