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Old 03-24-2012, 12:06 AM   #1
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Newbie with a hard top question

Hey all, so I'm right in the middle of purchasing my first ever wrangler, and I'm hella excited! I'm very confident on the purchase but one worry comes to mind for this purchase. The wrangler I'm buying is a 2004 Wrangler X and it has a soft top, I'm worried about the security of this for any belongings like radio, speakers etc, so I started looking into how much hard tops were. Needless to say, they are quite pricey, so my question is, does anyone know a place that sells hardtops at lower than normal prices? Or if I were to stick with the soft top, is there anything I can do to give me more peace of mind? Also are there any additional huge pros and cons to hardtop vs soft top?

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Why not buy one that already has a hard top instead?

Or you might find one on Craigslist.

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Why not buy one that already has a hard top instead?

Or you might find one on Craigslist.
X2. Not to mention you have to add the harness and washer plumbing and switch. If the jeep came from the factory with just a soft top.
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The only reason I am not jumping at the hard top is because the soft top has lower miles and has some goodies along with it such as it being lifted already and new tires and stuff. Are there even any differences between the soft or hard top?
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Noise mostly but practicality plays a role too.
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:19 AM   #6
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Practicality, as far as what?
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:01 PM   #7
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The soft top is easier to take off where the hardtop you're working around a 500 pound piece of fiberglass,but its more quiet so its just up to you if you want to work harder to keep your cab quiet go hardtop but if sound isn't an issue go soft top
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The only reason I am not jumping at the hard top is because the soft top has lower miles and has some goodies along with it such as it being lifted already and new tires and stuff. Are there even any differences between the soft or hard top?
Being lifted already is not necessarily a plus. Do you know the vehicle, personally driven it for DW, getting a guarantee? Also lower miles as strictly a weekend wheeler vs more miles on the highway with little if any stress on the running gear is something to ponder.
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:37 PM   #9
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Well I'm meeting the guy this Monday to have it checked out and drive it. What does DW mean? And according to the seller, he only took it off road a handful of times but nothing crazy. And I'm not worried about the noise, I love road noise. I was just asking for like, security reasons, obviously, and like insulation during the summer or winter. We'll see how everything goes on Monday.
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Well I'm meeting the guy this Monday to have it checked out and drive it. What does DW mean? And according to the seller, he only took it off road a handful of times but nothing crazy. And I'm not worried about the noise, I love road noise. I was just asking for like, security reasons, obviously, and like insulation during the summer or winter. We'll see how everything goes on Monday.
DW = Death Wobble: Uncontrollable shaking sometimes associated with worn front end components or improperly installed lifts. It sometimes is induced by reaching a particular speed or hitting a bump. In extreme cases, DW oscillation transferred from the front end components up to the steering wheel can literally rip the steering wheel out of the driver's hands resulting in loss of control and possible accident.

There are tons of posts about DW on the WF. Do a search and you can find everything you might want to know.

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Oh wow didn't even know about! Thanks for letting me know about that? Is the only way to see if it has it is by driving it? or are there any physical indications that could show it's present?
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Oh wow didn't even know about! Thanks for letting me know about that? Is the only way to see if it has it is by driving it? or are there any physical indications that could show it's present?
Here you go:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/dia...les-78034.html

Great reading, and pictures too!
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Nobody's going to steal your shitty factory radio and speakers for the effort it would take to do so, so I wouldn't worry about the soft top. Otherwise, only leave things in the vehicle that you'd be comfortable losing, and remember that a hardtop and locks is no real impediment to people who really want to steal things, only to the opportunist thief.
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Well, i don't know about the fiberglass top being 500#. In reality its probably no more than 125#, but its bulky. I used to take my old YJ's off by squatting in the back, balancing it on my head and palms, backing it off the vehicle and leaving it on some sawhorses. I only did this a few times because it is a PITA by yourself, and once I had the back flip up, upsetting the balance to where I almost dropped the dang thing on the garage floor. I have a softtop now and my security is to leave the vehicle unlocked and not have anything valuable inside. I do Club it though to deter vehicle theft. Some folks say that a manual transmission is a really good theft deterrent too.

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Gota look around. Took me 3 months to find my hardtop and i found it in 2 diffrent pieces..

Had to go to MD to get my hardtop with a broken rear window got it for $300 Than had to spend another $200 on a rear window.. Got the whole top for $500...

Lol and for the record a hardtop is not 500lbs... 150-200 lbs max..
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Cause no one would break a window for anything valuable left in a vehicle...........
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Is the Freedom Hard top really heavy? Like 125 lbs that trainsktg mentioned? Or is that just older ones. I was thinking the Freedom hardtop would be lighter or at least less bulky since it comes in 3 sections.
Is it possible to store it in the back if you need to haul something large with the top off? or would you need to take the top off at home and head back out for what you're hauling. Scenario: You're out shopping and find a bookshelf or long piece of furniture you need to strap in without a top. I know having a soft top has been very handy in these situations.

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