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Old 01-05-2012, 11:04 PM   #1
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night vision.need help. cool idea. will it work

so i live in one of there areas where whenever you find something fun to do there will always be someone to call the police. rich stuck up snobs. anyways my fun is wheeling and in a lot of cases im sneaking around at night blacked out and at times it gets a little tough to see.
my idea is night vision. one of my buddies had a back up cam that showed up on his flip out screen/radio. could i wire up a home security camera with infared lights to that instead of the back up cam. or do they maybe make this already that wouldnt cost me a crap load. havnt seen anything like this on here and i thought about it last night trying to get away from the rangers. yes i succeeded..lol but any help would be great and im sure there would be a lot of interest in this.

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Pretty much any camera that will pick up infrared will work for what you want, just use the backup system, mount the camera on the front, and use as large as you can get infrared emitters to light everything up.

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just wanted to add that the places i am wheeling are not private property nor prohibited. i would just think night vision would be sweet and be a little more courteous to the people around by not having my lights bouncing everywhere
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Yep, infrared is invisible, they might hear ya but they won't see ya.
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ive seen them where they have the infrared lights built into the camera. do you think i would need to add more to light up the area
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You could use the mygig lock pick so the camera works while in drive

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Yeah, you probably don't want to use one of the backup cameras, look for a cheap security camera, they will have a wider field of view. If it was me, I would find a large emitter and house it in a light mounted on the bumper and put the camera either where you can mount unmount it, say on the dash or hood. That way you could throw the camera on for night riding, flip a switch to light up the emitter, and take the camera off when done for clean up and security.
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could you elaborate on the lock pick. couldnt i just bypass the reverse switch and put in a toggle
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ive seen them where they have the infrared lights built into the camera. do you think i would need to add more to light up the area
I've got a back up cam with the built in emitter. No good for more than a dozen feet really. You are going to want one of the big ones for security to have any chance to use it far enough. Think about it for a second. Does your back up light cast as much as your head light? Same sort of thing.
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Yeah, you probably don't want to use one of the backup cameras, look for a cheap security camera, they will have a wider field of view. If it was me, I would find a large emitter and house it in a light mounted on the bumper and put the camera either where you can mount unmount it, say on the dash or hood. That way you could throw the camera on for night riding, flip a switch to light up the emitter, and take the camera off when done for clean up and security.
that is where i was thinking of going with it. i wouldnt use the back up cam. all the ones that ive seen have the fish eye lens and i could definitely dee myself hitting a tree or something. lol no good.
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I've got a back up cam with the built in emitter. No good for more than a dozen feet really. You are going to want one of the big ones for security to have any chance to use it far enough. Think about it for a second. Does your back up light cast as much as your head light? Same sort of thing.
yea i can understand that. i mounted flood lights for my reverse. much better but i see your point.. would it need to be a specific type of camera.
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Most cams actually run around 9v - 12v but come with some kind of AC adaptor to plug into the wall. If you check specs it should be pretty easy to find something close enough to 12v that you can put in a vehicle. Only cam I've tried so far is the back up one I set up. It's OK but not great.
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Security 36 LEDs 6mm Lens 1/4 IR CCD Camera Black

thats the camera

https://www.google.com/#q=infrared+l...w=1152&bih=773

and lights. i found these at first glance and not bad for prices. what do you guys think?
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Those would probably be ok. Would be worth a shot for the price, if it doesn't give you a good enough view upgrade...
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Good start. What are you going to use for a monitor?
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cool. i think this is something im going to do. hopfully i can get it to work. now i need to find a monitor
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idk yet. i was thinking something small like u suggested that i could mount to my dash or wiring it to a flip out monitor from a radio/ cd player
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If where you are wheeling is legal, why are you concerned about someone calling the police?
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If where you are wheeling is legal, why are you concerned about someone calling the police?
I was driving from pheonix to El Paso once and pulled over to look at the stars for about 20 minutes in BFE and somebody who lived in the vicinity called the police on me. They didn't hassle me or anything, but there's places where it happens
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If where you are wheeling is legal, why are you concerned about someone calling the police?

where i go is legal and some of the places i have permission from the authorities to go however, when they get bugged by someone that calls them to complain they will have to respond and their attitudes when annoyed can change quickly. id just rather save them the hassle and be less intrusive to the neighbors. its really none of their business but like i said they are filthy rich and think that everything concerns them.
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omg that is crazy. i want that exact same thing but dont want to shell out $3500 for it. lol i would probably forget to turn my headlights back on when i hit the pavment..
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I was driving from pheonix to El Paso once and pulled over to look at the stars for about 20 minutes in BFE and somebody who lived in the vicinity called the police on me. They didn't hassle me or anything, but there's places where it happens
i love looking at the stars
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I was driving from pheonix to El Paso once and pulled over to look at the stars for about 20 minutes in BFE and somebody who lived in the vicinity called the police on me. They didn't hassle me or anything, but there's places where it happens
exactly, if i had a nicke for everytime this has happened i'd have at least a sockfull of nickels to swing at these aholes' heads:

- pull off somewhere to take a needed nap to continue driving,
- some idiot calls cops that " a suspicious person is parked with lights off"
- cop comes up and instead of finding i'm just resting, decides to be a total prick and leaves his bright spotlight on my face for 20 minutes as he fks around with my drivers license checking my background -which is SPOTLESS, then finally finishes up and makes me leave anyway,

so now i've gotten NO fking sleep.

yes i'm bitter and burnt over this. i have some sleep and driving issues and i know what my body needs, but people freak out at a parked car sometimes. i'm talking at side roads, strip malls, store parking lot, restaruant parking lot, that's where this crap has happened to me.
one was a mcdonalds parking lot at 3am and adjacent to a truckstop, but i didn't wanna get in the bigrig's way so i used the mcdonalds.

ergg...
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man, this isn't cheap but it isn't that expensive either , and looks really good/useful.


First Mate gives every mariner the power to see at night like never before. The worlds first waterproof, hand held, high-performance maritime thermal night vision camera available for $2999,


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If the neighbors call 911 and report a Jeep with headlights as suspicious,




then what are they going to do when they see/hear a Jeep that's blacked out?





The police will be getting dispatched in either scenario. However, in the latter scenario they'll probably be out of the holster when they contact you because a blacked out Jeep truly equates "reasonable suspicion".

I'd just carry on like normal, make nosy Linda call the police every night until they just refuse to respond for her absurd 911 calls.

"Ma'am we've been out there several times. He's not breaking any laws. It's regrettable that his activities bother you, and I sympathize. However, there is nothing I can do. Feel free to bring a civil case against him if you think you have one. Good night." - Officer Friendly


It's fairly common for people to use the police as an instrument to harass their neighbor, or gain personal satisfaction after losing an argument, fight, or pissing contest with said neighbor. I refuse to validate those complaints, because once you do... you become the go-to tool.


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Look up your state statute for harassment:

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Arizona Revised Statute 13-2921. Harassment; classification; definition
A. A person commits harassment if, with intent to harass or with knowledge that the person is harassing another person, the person:
1. Anonymously or otherwise contacts, communicates or causes a communication with another person by verbal, electronic, mechanical, telegraphic, telephonic or written means in a manner that harasses.
2. Continues to follow another person in or about a public place for no legitimate purpose after being asked to desist.
3. Repeatedly commits an act or acts that harass another person.
4. Surveils or causes another person to surveil a person for no legitimate purpose.
5. On more than one occasion makes a false report to a law enforcement, credit or social service agency.
6. Interferes with the delivery of any public or regulated utility to a person.
B. A person commits harassment against a public officer or employee if the person, with intent to harass, files a nonconsensual lien against any public officer or employee that is not accompanied by an order or a judgment from a court of competent jurisdiction authorizing the filing of the lien or is not issued by a governmental entity or political subdivision or agency pursuant to its statutory authority, a validly licensed utility or water delivery company, a mechanics' lien claimant or an entity created under covenants, conditions, restrictions or declarations affecting real property.
C. Harassment under subsection A is a class 1 misdemeanor. Harassment under subsection B is a class 5 felony.
D. This section does not apply to an otherwise lawful demonstration, assembly or picketing.
E. For the purposes of this section, "harassment" means conduct that is directed at a specific person and that would cause a reasonable person to be seriously alarmed, annoyed or harassed and the conduct in fact seriously alarms, annoys or harasses the person.
See bold above.

My advice is to let Linda call the police on you a few times. Document the dates, times, and incident numbers. Then make your own call and have her fat gucci ass charged.
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exactly, if i had a nicke for everytime this has happened i'd have at least a sockfull of nickels to swing at these aholes' heads:

- pull off somewhere to take a needed nap to continue driving,
- some idiot calls cops that " a suspicious person is parked with lights off"
- cop comes up and instead of finding i'm just resting, decides to be a total prick and leaves his bright spotlight on my face for 20 minutes as he fks around with my drivers license checking my background -which is SPOTLESS, then finally finishes up and makes me leave anyway,

so now i've gotten NO fking sleep.

yes i'm bitter and burnt over this. i have some sleep and driving issues and i know what my body needs, but people freak out at a parked car sometimes. i'm talking at side roads, strip malls, store parking lot, restaruant parking lot, that's where this crap has happened to me.
one was a mcdonalds parking lot at 3am and adjacent to a truckstop, but i didn't wanna get in the bigrig's way so i used the mcdonalds.

ergg...
it happens a lot. especially around here where the officers dont have too much to do. they get bored and jump to any oppertunity. i dont reaaly like being at home to much cause of how active i am so when im not at work im usually just driving around or JUST SITTING in a parking lot on my phone looking for something to do. next thing i know 2 cruisers pull up spotlights on and of course right in my face. its very irritating.
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man, this isn't cheap but it isn't that expensive either , and looks really good/useful.


First Mate gives every mariner the power to see at night like never before. The worlds first waterproof, hand held, high-performance maritime thermal night vision camera available for $2999,


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all of flirs stuff is really cool. maybe someday ill be able to afford. im 21 making 500 a month if im lucky. driving a jeep that gets 8-10 mpg doesnt help. thats where most of it goes..lol
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If the neighbors call 911 and report a Jeep with headlights as suspicious,




then what are they going to do when they see/hear a Jeep that's blacked out?





The police will be getting dispatched in either scenario. However, in the latter scenario they'll probably be out of the holster when they contact you because a blacked out Jeep truly equates "reasonable suspicion".

I'd just carry on like normal, make nosy Linda call the police every night until they just refuse to respond for her absurd 911 calls.

"Ma'am we've been out there several times. He's not breaking any laws. It's regrettable that his activities bother you, and I sympathize. However, there is nothing I can do. Feel free to bring a civil case against him if you think you have one. Good night." - Officer Friendly


It's fairly common for people to use the police as an instrument to harass their neighbor, or gain personal satisfaction after losing an argument, fight, or pissing contest with said neighbor. I refuse to validate those complaints, because once you do... you become the go-to tool.


Another option:


Look up your state statute for harassment:



See bold above.

My advice is to let Linda call the police on you a few times. Document the dates, times, and incident numbers. Then make your own call and have her fat gucci ass charged.
yea i can completely understand that. i almost never know who exactly the person that complains is though. would they be required to tell me if i asked....either way though i still think it would be something really cool to do.

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