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Old 09-04-2013, 11:04 PM   #1
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No security? ... No problem?

Today, I took my girlfriend for a ride with the Sunrider top and my windows open. It was a beautiful day.

We didn't go far, but I needed to stop in a CVS to pick up an eyeglass repair kit. Simple enough... 3-5 minutes at most.... Soooo, I pull up, we get out, with the top and windows still open and suddenly my girlfriend had "that awkward moment when you realize there is no security in a soft top Jeep".

I knew it was coming. Sooner or later she would realize that there really is no security in a soft top, especially a Jeep soft top.

Suffice it to say, she refused to leave the car in that condition. I explained that there were absolutely no valuables in the Jeep... nothing to steal, but she simply couldn't understand why I was leaving it open.

I explained that I had 2 convertibles before this, and that I generally left them open specifically because I would rather a thief look inside than to rip a $1000 soft top to open the door and look inside.

A Jeep however is another animal. People don't even need to cut the top to get inside, they just unzip it. To me, that's a plus. She didn't agree. That's why I didn't go with my original plan to get half doors. At that very moment, she realized I had no intention to close it refused to even leave the car at all.

Naturally, I didn't mention that Jeeps have even less security than she thinks. People can easily unbolt the doors, the windows, the top, the bumpers, the spare tire, the front hood... you name it. Gone in 60 seconds.

Rather than opening a can of worms and telling her how easily those things could be stolen... I caved. I closed the top, closed the windows and locked the doors, went inside and was back in the Jeep in 4 minutes. Pointless.

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Old 09-04-2013, 11:06 PM   #2
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You shoulda told her you locked the doors lmaooooo

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Old 09-04-2013, 11:13 PM   #3
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You shoulda told her you locked the doors lmaooooo
You know... that's exactly what I did. She thought I was joking, and wanted to sit in the Jeep.

So, I told her I would just close the windows... then lock it. She still freaked out.

When you think of it, even if there was a lunatic who would actually get inside by climbing in from the Sunrider... wouldn't he just unzip the window, then reach over to open the door? Pointless.
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:25 PM   #4
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It took me a while, but I finally figured out the following:
1- Leave nothing valuable in the Jeep
2- Have good insurance
3- Let go . . . . .
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It took me a while, but I finally figured out the following:
1- Leave nothing valuable in the Jeep
2- Have good insurance
3- Let go . . . . .
Amen. That's EXACTLY why I bought the Jeep. To me, that's liberating.
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It took me a while, but I finally figured out the following:
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3- Let go . . . . .
You forgot #4 never argue with a woman bc they always win lol
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:29 PM   #7
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So......why didn't you just leave her there for the four minutes . . . . . would have been easier than arguing and putting the top up.
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You forgot #4 never argue with a woman bc they always win lol
Rule #4 Never marry a woman who argues
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Rule #4 Never marry a woman who argues
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I would like to know what are you going to do next time? Any conclusions?
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I like double tapping the key FOB on my convertiable when I walk away with the top down, just to be a smart ass. That and to get that look from the wife, "Really".
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So......why didn't you just leave her there for the four minutes . . . . . would have been easier than arguing and putting the top up.
Because then he would have to constantly hear about it for the duration of their relationship, however long or short-lived that might be. Women logic.
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I like double tapping the key FOB on my convertiable when I walk away with the top down, just to be a smart ass. That and to get that look from the wife, "Really".
I still lock the jeep as I walk away. . . it sets the alarm and disables the engine. I know it may get trashed in some way while I am gone, but the odds are that the carcass will still be there for the insurance adjuster to look at! But maybe I would rather have it disappear completely so I just get to pick out a new one?
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I go a step further and leave my baseball cap on the shifter and usually a hoodie in the front seat. Some might call that tempting fate, I call it reinforcing faith in humanity.

But really dude, I would have just told her I don't ever put the top up when you're not there but if you want to sit in the car I'll see you in 5 minutes.
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Bahahaha
When I tell my wife I need some money, all she does is smile and say, "what does the Jeep need this time?"
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:46 PM   #16
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So......why didn't you just leave her there for the four minutes . . . . . would have been easier than arguing and putting the top up.
She wanted to shop too, so we would've ended up taking turns guarding the Jeep.

There was also a part of me hoping she would see how pointless it was to got through the effort to close it and lock it so she would agree to just go with the flow. If not this time... but in the future.

My goal is simple. Within the next 3 years, to slowly get he so used to it that I can get another Jeep with half doors.

It won't be easy. I bought some Bestop Element tube doors, with no windows. For some reason they come with locks and keys... talk about pointless.

Let's see what she thinks when I show up at her house with no doors for that matter. Knowing her, she'll still ask to put the top back up, in case a bird craps on her seat while she's shopping.
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I would like to know what are you going to do next time? Any conclusions?
Take the doors off and leave them home before I get to her place.
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I like double tapping the key FOB on my convertiable when I walk away with the top down, just to be a smart ass. That and to get that look from the wife, "Really".
The goofy thing is it's just the Sunrider part, which is more than 6 feet off the ground. Who on earth is going to climb in from there, when they can just unzip the windows?

She simply couldn't grasp how pointless it is to bother closing it.
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I just called my insurance agent today to see how much lowering my comprehensive deductible to $0 would be... Boy was I surprised, and happy, to learn that it was going to cost me a whopping $8 more a month...
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Wasn't this thread about security of the Jeep??
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:31 AM   #22
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I would have left her in the Jeep, went in and get what I needed. It takes longer to argue the point to some one than to do what you went there for in the first place. I've had the same argument with my wife.

Edit: sorry didn't read the part about she wanted to shop for something too. I still would have just walked in. But having a girlfriend is alot different than a wife. My wife understands it's my Jeep and all other arguments are irrelavent.
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:33 AM   #23
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For what it's worth, when I closed the deal on my Jeep, the dealer tried to sell me on Mopar Hood Locks, that cost $500. The advantage he said was that it would match my ignition key.

I passed on that, because I felt that paying $500 to protect my engine wasn't worth it. I said "even if my battery is stolen, it would only cost me $100"... so it would have to be stolen 5 times before it was cost effective. His only response was that it would protect me from other engine damage.

Although I don't think people randomly open hoods to cause damage, I did assume he would try to push me to buy wheel locks as a lot of Jeep dealers do. He didn't ask, but I wonder how many people use them? If nothing else, for the spare, which can be removed in 30 seconds without a jack.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:48 PM   #24
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I leave glove and center console unlocked also. Nothing of value in the jeep. I leave my sunglasses on the dash and they have never been stolen.
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For what it's worth, when I closed the deal on my Jeep, the dealer tried to sell me on Mopar Hood Locks, that cost $500. The advantage he said was that it would match my ignition key. I passed on that, because I felt that paying $500 to protect my engine wasn't worth it. I said "even if my battery is stolen, it would only cost me $100"... so it would have to be stolen 5 times before it was cost effective. His only response was that it would protect me from other engine damage. Although I don't think people randomly open hoods to cause damage, I did assume he would try to push me to buy wheel locks as a lot of Jeep dealers do. He didn't ask, but I wonder how many people use them? If nothing else, for the spare, which can be removed in 30 seconds without a jack.
I've been called crazy more than once by a few people for putting wheel locks on... For me, it's just peace of mind... I'd rather spend $50 on wheel locks than a few hundred on a new wheel/tire.
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I use the rampage hood locks, work well. You can get the mopar key one that fits ignition switch for about $125 on amazon. Im also slightly paranoid. I have wheel locks, gas cap lock, tuffy stereo lock, and tuffy cw lock under seat that I rekeyed with a cam lock, built a permanent trunk. So yea, i like locking stuff up. Had my tire carrier cover stollen. Damn thieves need their arms amputated imho.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:50 PM   #27
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I frequently leave my doors off my XJ so I built myself a couple lockboxes out of ammo cans. Cost me all of about $30 for one with lighting and about $15 without.

Weld a small tab inside, drill a hole in the top and put a mailbox lock in it and voila, you can even bolt them down easily.

Pics are from one in my pickup (hadn't welded the tab in yet), but you get the idea.









I won't leave my EDC in it, but my phone and other small stuff I will. Won't keep out a determined thief obviously but it definitely deters theft and people can't just snatch it up real quick.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:05 PM   #28
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i work in the ghetto ... the key is leave it wide open with nuttin in it LOL.... so far no issues....
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I had to train my daughters not to lock the Jeep even when the top is up. Although cutting is not needed, most idiots will slice the top thinking that's the way in. Don't leave anything, don't lock anything.
I also told them that the locks are for when they are in the vehicle, to keep someone from snatching the door open on them.
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