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Old 02-16-2010, 12:03 PM   #31
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I drove back to the apartment from the house this morning at six without having slept any with a mild hangover, in the snow, with one eye open, and sunglasses on. Nothing bad happened. It was great!
On a side note, ordered my Rock Krawler lift bits yesterday, and I can afford it- I consider that a nothing bad happened kinda day Mark W.

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Old 02-19-2010, 10:25 AM   #32
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I went skiing in Vermont this week. The poor jeep set dejected and wanting in the parking lot while my son's troop from WMA enjoyed a week of skiing. I got back in and drove home and nothing bad happened. We had a lot of fun though...

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Old 02-19-2010, 01:32 PM   #33
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Hi. My name is Rick and I drive an '07 Wrangler.

I got up this morning and it was blowing snow all over the place. Told the wife to not bother making my lunch I needed to go right away. So I went. Only the second time I've been able to "really" use the 4WD. Wohoo! Nothing bad happened except for the poor lil' Honda that tried to keep up. I think he' spun out behind me which is better than in front of me right?
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Dang "change oil" light came on again today; seems like this happens at predetermined intervals or something....

And while driving to work this morning, a pickup truck in front of me was meandering all over his lane and then made a panic stop halfway in our lane and the oncoming lane; so I swerved off the road and Baja'd around him.
Net result, nothing bad happened today.
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Drove my Jeep to the beach today...got up in the sand and watched the Atlantic Ocean surf for a while...left the sand without getting stuck...picked up some "beach pizza" and fresh clam chowda for tonight's supper...drove home in 40 mph crosswinds...nuthin' bad happened at all...
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We were out in the woods yesterday enjoying the snow. Came across an elderly couple in an XJ that was stuck on a hill, sideways on some bad ice.
Got them unstuck and on their way (barely escaping death?) and nothing bad happened.
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I drove 350 miles in my 07 Sahara Friday and Saturday. 250 of them were straight highway miles and the other 100 were back winding country roads. And I am proud to report that absolutely NOTHING happened. I got where I was going without a hitch
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Two feet of snow in the Western MA hill-towns yesterday and the road over the mountain was in rough condition. I put the jeep in 4wd high and drove over the mountain. The jeep tossed around a lot but made it up and down the mountain with not much sideways travel. While on the drive over the mountain nothing bad happened.
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Nothing happened during our winter storm in Central Texas this week. Now have 28,000 miles on my 08, and still love driving it every day.
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ok ill bite we went to the desert over the weekend. was very nice a little windy but not too bad. drove all the way out there, offroaded, came back and still nothing happened! yay! im still waiting everytime i shift the transfer case for that little plastic piece to break but still nothing happened. im happy
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ok ill bite we went to the desert over the weekend. was very nice a little windy but not too bad. drove all the way out there, offroaded, came back and still nothing happened! yay! im still waiting everytime i shift the transfer case for that little plastic piece to break but still nothing happened. im happy
Give it time....that little plastic piece will surprise you when you least expect it. That is why there are three in the bottom of my glove box.
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I have 35" tires with stock front dana 30 drive shaft with 16500 miles and I havent regeared yet. Oh almost forgot nothing bad happened during the morning interstate commute.
35s and dana 30 with 67000 sofar.
Nothing bad ... yet
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ok ill bite we went to the desert over the weekend. was very nice a little windy but not too bad. drove all the way out there, offroaded, came back and still nothing happened! yay! im still waiting everytime i shift the transfer case for that little plastic piece to break but still nothing happened. im happy
What desert?
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^ Ocotillo Wells. best place to offroad imho its got a little of everything. jk'n i know your right its bound to happen i really need to get some replacements im just lazy and hate going to the stealership. maby i can get some from online.
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Give it time....that little plastic piece will surprise you when you least expect it. That is why there are three in the bottom of my glove box.
Although nothing bad has happened yet, do you have some sort of detailed write-up on how to install the dreaded clip of doom?
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^ thats true we really should have a how-to or something so the next time it happens to someone they dont have to put up a post asking why they cant shift their transfer case. i mainy just want a picture of what this clip of doom looks like and where its at.
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^ thats true we really should have a how-to or something so the next time it happens to someone they dont have to put up a post asking why they cant shift their transfer case. i mainy just want a picture of what this clip of doom looks like and where its at.
All in favor of a sticky say "aye".
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^ i say aye x2 cause i just went under my jk to check out this "piece of doom" and when i figured out which one it was i went to just grap it a little and part of it just broke off. so i figured what the hell i can make this better. i started by taking off the arm from the tranfer case, 10 mm wrench, simple stuff. then when i was going to remove the arm from the cable end the little "piece of doom" disintegrated upon removal. now to find something to replace the "piece of doom". i looked in my tool box and found a brass round fitting peice fit right into the cable end. it looks like a ball with a big hole in the middle and the ends cut off. then i took a little strip of sheet metal and bent it around the pole that is on the arm from the tranfer case. now put that round strip on the pole then put the end of the cable on the pole get the round brass fitting piece and put that on the pole finally put a C clip on the end to keep it all on there. i put the arm back on the transfer case and i was done. if anyone wants pics i can get some later i just put it back together with out thinking about pictures. it works quite well no slop at all feels just like stock but now with metal intead of the plastic "piece of doom" im happy
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^ i say aye x2 cause i just went under my jk to check out this "piece of doom" and when i figured out which one it was i went to just grap it a little and part of it just broke off. so i figured what the hell i can make this better. i started by taking off the arm from the tranfer case, 10 mm wrench, simple stuff. then when i was going to remove the arm from the cable end the little "piece of doom" disintegrated upon removal. now to find something to replace the "piece of doom". i looked in my tool box and found a brass round fitting peice fit right into the cable end. it looks like a ball with a big hole in the middle and the ends cut off. then i took a little strip of sheet metal and bent it around the pole that is on the arm from the tranfer case. now put that round strip on the pole then put the end of the cable on the pole get the round brass fitting piece and put that on the pole finally put a C clip on the end to keep it all on there. i put the arm back on the transfer case and i was done. if anyone wants pics i can get some later i just put it back together with out thinking about pictures. it works quite well no slop at all feels just like stock but now with metal intead of the plastic "piece of doom" im happy
Your explanation about the "piece of doom" disintegrating is why I have 3 in my glove box. If anyone goes wheeling without one of these little plastic gismos, they are just asking for trouble. I am curious to see your mod though. The ones that I have seen so far are destructive in that they drill out the pin on the lever and replace it with a bolt. This one sounds like it works without destroying anything or permanently modifying it.
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^ yep that is the point exactly. i always make my mods like that when ever possible. i will get some pictures today cause it is a pretty good idea if i do say so myself. the peice of doom is a ticking timebomb in everyones wrangler most of all people like me that are in a dry climate like the desert. my jk lives there all winter so the dry is hell on plastic. i dont get why jeep made this peice out of such a crappy plastic but it really needs to be metal. let me go see if my jeep is cool enough to work on it.
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ok so i got some pics. first is my "kit" for replacing the piece of doom. from left to right it is: washer, C-clip 1/4" (i think i dont know how to size these), the brass fuel fitting (more pics to come), and last is the strip of sheet metal i bent round to fit on the pin and inside of the brass fitting.



here is more of the brass fuel fitting i got from when i replaced the fuel pump on my friends volvo and had this left over. the outside diameter is 1/2 inch. i have no idea what to call this thing so if someone knows please fill me in.




next is the installation order. start with an emty pin. i took these with the arm still on the transfer case only cause i didnt want to take it off again just for pics. i would for sure say the arm being taken off so its easier to work with. its only a 10mm wrench and it was off quick.



first put the washer on.



then put the round srtip of sheet metal you made. this could also be done with a small piece of tubing cut to the rigth length but i didnt have any so just bent up this peice.



when you look inside the cable end you will see that one side is a little bigger than the other put the bigger side facing out. heres a pic so you know what i mean its kinda blurry but the larger side is facing the camera.


then put the cable end on the pin over the round round peice you made.



then after the cable end is on put the round brass fitting peice in the pin. i dont have a picture of this step cause it would just fall out while the arm is on the transfer case but this is what it looks like with out the cable end on so you can see the order.



finally put the C-clip on the hold it all together.



reinstall the arm onto the transfer case and your done. climb out from under the jeep and into it check the motion of the tranfer case lever to make sure it is all smooth. if it is then you are all set.
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^ well the last picture was supposed to be this one not the one above. its too late for me to edit it. oh well

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i have no idea what to call this thing so if someone knows please fill me in.
It's a compression ferrule.

Nice write-up.

jk'n --- can you post a pic of the clip of doom, off the Jeep and properly installed too?
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couldnt that also be done with two washers and a c-clip?
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im guessing the hole in the cable ring is bigger than the stud it attaches to since you needed the tappered brass fitting? but if you sleeved the stud to bring it to the same dia as the cable ring then two washers and a c-clip... in other words why do you need the tappered brass fitting?
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im guessing the hole in the cable ring is bigger than the stud it attaches to since you needed the tappered brass fitting? but if you sleeved the stud to bring it to the same dia as the cable ring then two washers and a c-clip... in other words why do you need the tappered brass fitting?
Doesn't look like it.
Just a sleeve, two correct washers, and a clip. He was just working with what he had on-hand at the time and his PHD in Ghetto Engineering...

I'm guessing that the plastic piece is purposely designed to be a weak link to keep something else from breaking if one were to force the lever. USAntigoon could probably give us an engineer's perspective on that.
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my geuss was they used that plastic cause it would have less friction than another plastics but didnt realize it would dry out and break alot easier than the other plastics. yes the cable end is larger than the pin thats where the "clip of doom" went. the sleeve idea would almost work but the inside of the cable end has a big side and a small side so the sleeve would only be touching the the small side. thats why i used the compression ferrule (thanks hill) to fill in the big side and the sleeve i made fills in the small side. there is zero slop and you would never know it was there by working the transfer case lever. yea my masters in ghetto engineering has gotten me out of a lot of problems. it my not look great but atleast its not going to desintegrate on me out in the middle of the desert. i would get you pics of the clip of doom but mine fell apart into a hundred peices. it would be really easy for someone with a lathe to shape a piece that would fill in the space for the clip of doom and then put a clip on the end to keep it in place. i think that this will for sure be a recall issue one day when a lot of peoples clip of doom desintegrates and they cant shift their transfer cases.
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I know a good fabricator with a lathe; I'll get around to prodding him to make something.
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i bet there is some random hardware parts store part that would work with the washer and a cclip and all for under $1...
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i bet there is some random hardware parts store part that would work with the washer and a cclip and all for under $1...
Probably.
What I think he's describing is a tapered bearing. If you brought the clip into a bearing house and talked to one of the old farts, I bet they'd hook you up.
Or we can make a slick billet one...

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