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Old 04-27-2008, 11:11 AM   #1
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NYC and Jeep, bad mix?

Hello everyone. I'm a newbie here and have always wanted a wrangler. I'll be moving to New York soon (most likely in Queens) and need a car to get around. I'm a med student, so I'll need a reliable car to drive to around to the hospitals in queens/brooklyn/bronx. I know from reading that Wranglers are generally reliable, especially the 4.0 I-6. Am I crazy for wanting to get a wrangler for NYC? Anybody here from NYC can give me any advice on what it's like to own one?

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Old 04-27-2008, 11:41 AM   #2
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Its AMAZING!!!!
there's no better car for snow, well except some 4wd trucks, but those are huge and a pain in the summer. I would suggest full doors, but either a soft top or hard top will be fine. The soft tops actually heat up very quickly. Also the 6Cyl heats up VERY quickly it heats up twice as fast as my mom's for taurus, but then again its almost double the size haha.

I would suggest not getting wide tires though, make sure to get skinny ones and put some weight in the back for traction.

and lastly manual is the way to go so you can downshift instead of brake, and it helps to reduce the skidding a lot.

the only bad thing is that if you do go into a skid you WILL spin, since the jeep's wheelbase is so short

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Old 04-27-2008, 11:44 AM   #3
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For nyc you will want hard top and full doors for security and you will want a auto because of all the stop and go traffic,
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They manuever great, which will come in handy when you are wedging yourself into a parallel spot on trying to stuff yourself into a parking garage and if you can't find a parking spot you can stick it in 4wd and just park ontop of a rice burner.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:33 PM   #5
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I work in NYC on and off, I usually use NJ transit and PATH but do drive in every once in a while to pickup and deliver my servers and other network gear. I use both my TJ's and my XJ.
Rule one, I never leave anything in the soft top TJ, I don't even lock it, in fact I even leave the front windows unzipped or even the top down so anybody who wants to can stick their head in to see nothing is there. I have locked the tail gate with the top down, most of the crud over there is too stupid to look under the dropped top behind the seat or under the rear seat where they would find my strap, shackles, gloves and small flat tool box. Curbs and sidewalks don't bother me getting around double and triple parked azzhats. Taxi cabs, BMW's, mercedes and limos tend to give me a wide berth once they see the steel bumpers and body damage I have around the fenders .
The downside, no real security in the soft top when in NYC for car jackers, when I'm home in PA it's a different story with the .45 under my shirt but I only worry about that in philly.
Personally I would get a hard top and full doors if I lived over there.
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:35 PM   #6
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Hmm... Most of the ones I've seen around here are soft top with 1/2 doors. Can I buy aftermarket hardtops? Are the doors swap-able?
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:27 PM   #7
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doors swapable, aftermarket hard tops are REALLYY expensive i would suggest www.craigslist.org
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I live in NYC and I have a hardtop which I choose mostly for security.

But you will find out that the Wrangler will outperform most SUV's in bad/inclement weather,easy to park especially when parking is tight.

And you will see alot of them,the other day I saw a "Scrambler"...and I pulled up beside the guy driving..honked and waved...I haven't seen one of those in a long time.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:56 PM   #9
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There are about 4 or 5 hard tops on craigslist in north jersey. Just watch the years, depends on what you get and what year. I think 97-2000 are the same, maybe 2002, not sure. If you can find one with hard top and full doors go for it, it's easier to get a new soft top and half doors, not to mention cheaper, then a hard top and full doors. I know alot of people that change hard top and full doors on april 1st for half doors and soft top then switch back in October.
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I live in NYC and I have a hardtop which I choose mostly for security.

But you will find out that the Wrangler will outperform most SUV's in bad/inclement weather,easy to park especially when parking is tight.

And you will see alot of them,the other day I saw a "Scrambler"...and I pulled up beside the guy driving..honked and waved...I haven't seen one of those in a long time.
Not to mention you can park them ON TOP of snow banks which is a good reason to not shovel your parking space, in fact shovel snow into it, it will keep them lousy parking slot stealers outta your spot after you shoveled it out..
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i think its actually cheaper to buy a used hard top, then soft top, b/c u need tons of extra stuff like door surrounds, and windows and things that dont usually come with them, idk just my experience, the best thing to buy if a soft top with full doors, then you can buy a hard top, no extra hardware needed and there's no reason for 1/2 doors, just take the fulls completely off!
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i think its actually cheaper to buy a used hard top, then soft top, b/c u need tons of extra stuff like door surrounds, and windows and things that dont usually come with them, idk just my experience, the best thing to buy if a soft top with full doors, then you can buy a hard top, no extra hardware needed and there's no reason for 1/2 doors, just take the fulls completely off!
Yea, thats true, I picked up a couple of extra half top uppers for spares at a swap meet as well as a frame and mounting hardware.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:50 AM   #13
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Hey I've lived in NYC my whole life, and I actually just bought my '98 wrangler...they don't get stolen that often, (I checked with some police friends), but they do get stuff stolen out of them. I just installed my Tuffy center console, it's a beast, so anything you have you should put inside a lockable container like that.

But it's pretty much the same as any other car, don't leave things blatantly lying around inside that look expensive.

The worry about security is NOTHING compared with the satisfaction you get from owning a wrangler.

P.S. mine is manual, and I still love having her in NYC, traffic/security/whatever else comes my way...
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:56 AM   #14
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Oh, and I also have my metal "insta-trunk" which is very small, but you can keep a small tool set, some flares, tow strap, and stuff like that in there...It keeps things out of sight, and secure, plus I can still have my back seat
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:07 AM   #15
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...they don't get stolen that often
Somehow that doesn't sound very reassuring. hahahahhaha
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:23 PM   #16
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well compared with other vehicles...for a while I had an '89 Toyota Camry, which was one of the most stolen cars in america, just because it was so easy. but Jeeps get stolen less then other cars, I'm pretty serious about security, and if I've found a way to make my wrangler work for me, then I'll bet you can too!
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:06 AM   #17
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Great. Thanks for the advice guys. I'll keep searching for hardtops. I've found a couple, but they're mostly 4 cylinders. Seeing I'll be doing mostly city driving, it shouldn't be too bad right? I'll also be driving it from Houston to New York, so maybe a 4 banger would save me some gas...
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:28 PM   #18
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haha, are you really driving from Tx to NYC? I am doing the exact opposite, in NYC and driving down to Houston, coincidences are neat that way.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:56 PM   #19
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hahaha. Are you driving the jeep?
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:08 PM   #20
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Just had another thought. The hardtops are pretty heavy right? And installing/removing would really be a 2 man job wouldn't it? Chances are, I'll be living alone in a tiny apartment. Which means if I get a HT, it'll probably stay on even if the sun's out because I can't remove it by myself. I'll be missing 1/2 the fun! Maybe a soft top is the way to go if I'm living alone? But then there's the security issue....this is driving me nuts. I've been thinking about it for weeks now. hahahhaha
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Old 05-02-2008, 01:01 AM   #21
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get a 4door with the FREEDOM TOP!
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Old 05-02-2008, 03:25 AM   #22
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Yupp...I'll be driving my baby down, I just went and got her new Goodyear Wranglers (30x9.5)
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Old 05-02-2008, 03:47 PM   #23
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I think the only thing to worry about is security
always leave your doors unlocked, and never leave anything in that someone could take (phone, IPOD, cd deck, etc)
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Old 05-02-2008, 06:15 PM   #24
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Get a good alarm system and you should be good to go.I live in the Bronx and there must be at least 10 Jeep Wranglers ranging from a YJ,TJ and three JK's in my neighborhood.

If anything with gas being $3.85 around here,the thieves are more likely to steal the gas,unless you have a gas lock.Than the stuff inside of your Wrangler............................
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Old 05-02-2008, 07:03 PM   #25
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I live in Brooklyn and work in all five boroughs. I have both tops, hard for the winter and soft for the Spring, Summer and Fall. I do have an alarm with a sensor only b/c I leave the top down in the Summer. It's only a $30- addition to my alarm.

The Jeep is great in the city. It's small enough to find parking and the 4X4 is a must have in the winter.
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What kind of gas mileage do you get in NYC traffic? I'll be commuting from manhattan to queens/brooklyn/bronx.
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At $3.80 per gal. From Mon - Fri I spend about $45 a week.
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have you ever calculated your mpg? I know wranglers weren't built to be fuel efficient and I accept that. Just trying to get an idea of how much I should budget for fuel.
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At $3.80 per gal. From Mon - Fri I spend about $45 a week.
I spend $46.00 a day driving my junk M-F
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Yea gas would be your biggest cost I think. NYC us not cheap. Dont forget insurance. I moved from VA to NY upstate (100 miles outside NYC is upstate go figure) Anyway it was just shy of tripled. This is a very lawyer heavy state so be prepared for significant insurance premiums. Plus gas in NYC is always 20-30 cents higher than NJ
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