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Old 01-27-2007, 09:25 PM   #1
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Smile Ok, so I want one!

So here's the deal. I'm wanting a Jeep really bad for a daily driver, and am just looking for advice and tips on what to get and what not to get. I mainly need one to get me from point A to B - nothing special.. but I'd like to have a LITTLE fun in between. Coming from the car scene, I'm completely new to off-roading and all the vehicles that are included with it, and I know very little about the different versions of Jeeps. I'm looking at spending around the $5k (or less) mark for an older Wrangler and I'm just looking to see what you guys would suggest given my situation. I'd like something with decent gas mileage, so I've been considering a 4cyl. But would buying a 4cyl. and getting into the Wrangler world make me wish I had gotten a 6cyl? Any help and/or advice would be greatly appreciated guys - Thanks for your time!

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Old 01-27-2007, 09:33 PM   #2
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already with a stock wrangler you can drive through areas that most people won´t believe.

if you just want to drive alone or with a friend a wrangler is ok. if you want to carry much thinges and have a family then i would buy a bigger jep like a cherokee. thre is not much room i a wrangler. most non-wrangler-drivers laugh about what we name a "trunk".

if you have a 4cyl wrangler you wish you had a 6cyl. if you have a 6cyl you´ll begin to thing about a V8 engine swap after some time.. an engine couldn´t be big enough...
but i thing the 6cyl is a very good and long-living engine with enough power (if the gearing is right and the tires aren´s too big). a friends 4cyl wrangler ha sa bit too small engine in my opinion. you always need much RPM and thats not the typical way to drive a jeep.

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Old 01-27-2007, 09:54 PM   #3
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Thanks nicholas, I know what it's like to get something and then to wish it had a little more... or this option added to it. I'd like to try and make the best decision I can for this situation. I don't need a very roomy vehicle, and I love the open nature sharing part that the Wrangler has to offer. Are the 4cyls. very dependable motors? Reliablitly is also another factor I would like to throw into this..

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Old 01-27-2007, 09:59 PM   #4
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make a test drive with a 6cal and then with a 6cyl. then you can answer your question by yourself.
i don´t want to say bad things about the 4cyl. some people like it.
i prefer driving with less RPM and much torque on low RPMs. it´s a jeep and not a small asian car that needs very much RPM.

but everybody might have another opinion about that. so test it out and make your own decision.
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4cyls are quite dependable. mine's got 155K on the clock and still running like a champ! taken care of, they will last well over 200K. but the same goes for the 4.0L and it does have more power. the only place the 4 cyl lacks is keeping highway speed. 'round town, it's just fine! and mileage is about the same. i get about 16-18 running 31'' tires, and guys with the 4.0 get 14-16.
I love my 4-banger, but if i were to do it again, i'da waited til i found one with a 6 cyl.

for what you are looking to spend, i'd look at getting a very late model YJ. you should be able to get a nice 95 YJ with a 4.0L for what you are looking to spend. with enough searching and waiting, you might be able to get a TJ with a 4.0L. The major differnce in the two(other than the goofy looking headlights of a YJ) is that the TJ has coil spring instead of leaf springs. they also made some changes to the interior to make the TJ more comfortable and more people friendly.

you might go out and find a couple of each that are for sale...even if they are out of your price range, and test drive them. that will give you an idea of whether you like the YJ or TJ better. then go from there.

wow, that was really long and probly didn't really help at all. sorry.
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If I had it to do over again, I'd go 6 cylinder. But for what I use my jeep for, a 4 does nicely. Just a forewarning. You ARE going to end up spending a lot more on your wrangler after you buy it. It is just the nature of the beast. Dependable but HIGHLY modifiable. And you will want plenty of those mods.
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Old 01-27-2007, 11:07 PM   #7
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Thanks for the replys guys. I should definitley test drive some of and see what the differences are for myself. I'll be using it mostly for highway useage, but what is that you say about the 4cyl. having difficulty keeping highway speed? Is there a good site that shows the years of models and differences of the Wranglers? I hate to bog you guys down with small questions.
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Old 01-28-2007, 12:49 AM   #8
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Get the 6. The Jeep 4.0 is known for its reliability. If you get the 4 banger, you'll wish you had the 6. Especially if you add tires, bumpers, armor, winch.... Plus the gas mileage really isn't that big of a difference. Get a 4.0 with a 5 speed. That should work out nicely. Look for an early 90's YJ. I would try to find one that is bone stock. You'll get the best deal on it, and it won't be beaten to crap. My 2 cents.
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:22 AM   #9
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I'd go with a TJ, mainly for the headlights and interior mods mentioned earlier. The inline 6 is known to be one of the most dependable and long lasting engines around. There is a place called webejeeping, website is
http://www.webejeeping.com/
and he is located in north alabama, which means you are most likely not anywhere near here, but he sells only used jeeps and 4x4. Try finding someone like this in your area, even if you have to drive an hour or so.
I didn't buy from him, but I did test drive a 86 CJ-7 and hated it, and then a 98 TJ and loved it. I found a TJ elsewhere I liked better, but the guy at the used jeep place was very helpful and knowledgeable.
Big differences in the YJ and TJ are:
The dash and center consoles are different.
The wheel wells are different. This means that some aftermarket fender flares may or may not fit with or without cutting your jeep. Just something to think about, considering all factory fender flares fade.
I wrote a paper about this, here are the highlights:

The YJ Jeep was the next step in Jeep history. A total of 632,231 were produced from 1987 to 1995. This was the first Jeep to bare the name Wrangler.
The main difference in appearance was the rectangular headlights.
Most of its inspiration came from the Jeep Cherokee, not the CJ’s. The YJ provided less ground clearance and more comfort. This new style prompted some Jeep purists to interpret the YJ as a “yuppie Jeep" upon the model's introduction.
The YJ eventually improved upon the I6 engine with a fuel injected 180*horsepower 4.0*liter I6 variant.
The roll cage was extended in 1992 to allow for rear shoulder belts, and anti-lock brakes were added as an option in 1993.
An automatic transmission option for 4-cylinder Wranglers came in 1994 along with a center, high mounted third brake light.

The TJ is the Jeep of today. It started production in 1997, and will end in 2006.
Improvements in on-road capability are due to the Quadra-Coil suspension.
Improvements in off-road capability are due to improved ground clearance and more aggressive approach and departure angles.
Dual air bags were introduced and round head lights returned.
The I6 engine was improved to a 4.0 liter, with 180 horse power.

Hope this helps and doesn't make you fall asleep reading it
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Old 01-28-2007, 12:59 PM   #10
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Thanks guys, that clears up a lot of the questions I had about the differences in jeeps. I'd like another straight 6 (my current car has a straight 6) to add to the family. But they do seem to be quite rare. I'll definitely be keeping my eyes open for one and maybe steer away from the 4cyl. just incase I get into some serious moding in the future. Thanks for the advice fellas!
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I'd go with a TJ
For 5k, he's not going to find a TJ.
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Old 01-28-2007, 01:48 PM   #12
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It's gonna have to be an older one I believe. Remember I'm not wanting an immaculate vehicle. Something older, so I'm guessing I'll be going with a YJ.
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For 5k, he's not going to find a TJ.
If you were in Southern California, you could. I got mine for around that, although it's a 4 cyl. While I was shopping prices, I found several (14) '98 - '00 TJ's for between $4500 - $6000, about 1/2 were 6 cyl's. (just this past summer '06)
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i had a yj with the 4.0 and 3:07,s on 31" tires (5spd)17-19 mpg
now have a tj 4.0,3:73,s, 32"tires (5spd) 17-19 mpg!
p.s.-the ax5 trans. in the 4 cyl. is weak
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:57 AM   #15
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I found a YJ that I'm going to look at in a few days.. I posted up a new topic in the YJ section

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