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Old 10-31-2013, 07:43 PM   #1
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One reason I change my own oil.

Alright, I don't want to make this into a thread bashing a store but I had to post.

So, I'm on my way home from work today and I come upon a nice looking SUV in the middle of the road with it's emergency lights on. As I pulled up, I saw the rear of the drive shaft laying on the ground.

I pulled over to help and the lady said she didn't know what was wrong, it "just stopped". She said she the only thing that had been done to it was that she took it to [national oil change store] a little over a week ago. I crawled underneath her nice 2012 GMC and slid the driveshaft out from the transmission side. I noticed the rear of the drive shaft snapped off just forward of the rear differential.

Looking at the rear of the differential, I could see that the fluid filler cap was missing. Our buddies at [national oil change store] forgot to put it back in and the rear differential had totally siezed up.

I'm sure glad I have my Fumoto valve and change my own oil.

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Sucks, but thats why they have disclaimers stating its ultimately your responsibility to check everything

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Old 10-31-2013, 11:45 PM   #3
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Same reason I change my own oil and other maintenance. I've heard way to many stories of this kinda stuff happening.
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:31 AM   #4
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With all the bad rap these oil changing chains get and the rip off's they are known for, I can't believe people still use them. I typically change my own, but I let the dealership do it during the free maintenance period.
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I guess this is what you get when you go to some place and the service the advertise is just cheap and fast.
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And why was it off? Because they were trying to sell a diff change on a near new vehicle. Really? There are more cars on the road that have never had a diff fluid change and have never had a problem because of it, but they're going to try to sell this service on a near new vehicle I hope the store pays for the repairs without too much grief.
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I used an oil change place locally, not a big chain but it was tied to a local truck stop, and while watching them change the oil on my wife's car, I saw the top guy place a filter in front of the tire, the bottom guy ignored it and drained the oil. After a period of time the bottom guy called for a fill and the top guy grabbed the filter and put it back in inventory. While I was watching this I called the cops and told them what I saw. The reporting officer claimed it was not an issue he could act on, but in the mean time the press arrived and I voiced my concerns to them. When the owner arrived and and threatened me with arrest if I didn't leave, I invited the reporter to a lot across the street to inspect the filter that was on the car for him to judge if it had been changed. When the store owner heard that he politely invited me into his office to "settle" this. He agreed to refund my money for this and any other oil change done at his shop that I had a receipt for, and I had all of them. He also agreed to do a proper service of her car and I would admit that this possibly was a honest mistake. The oil change facility was sold to a major chain less than 3 months after that incident.

Now when I buy a vehicle I buy the lifetime oil option and have the dealership change my oil. My dealership allows customers to watch any of the service done on their vehicle, so I feel comfortable with this arrangement. I also have my oil tested every 6 months and the dealership gladly provides me with a sample while I watch. (This is a holdover habit from when I owned a trucking company.) I know not all dealerships are as accommodating, but I got lucky here in Santa Fe.

I can change my own oil and I have in the past when needed, but I am not a person that enjoys this type of work and I'm willing to pay for the service. Each time I have it serviced, I visit the rack and do a visual inspection of my own. When I have a question, they bring over a mechanic and it's checked properly by him and not the oil change guy.
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All you got to do is give someone a shirt with a logo of the shop on it and now they are professional Mechanics lol . People now days are only there for a pay check not many take any pride in there job all talk they can do this they can do that be lucky if they can tie there own shoes I see it every day . You are better off doing things yourself . You can't do any worse than the so called pros will do shame the laddie got stuck it could have been worse .
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While traveling with my brother-in-law, about 300 miles from home, he notices his oil pressure gauge begin to drop steadily. He pulls over, oil sprayed all over the back of his van. I look underneath and the filter is gone. He just had his oil changed before we left and they never tightened the filter. Took a little while but it finally fell off. On our way back to a gas station for more oil, we saw the filter on the road. Lesson learned... always check their work!
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I do my own work when possible for two main reasons:

1) the pride of doing it myself
2) I live by "if you want something done right, do it yourself"
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2) I live by "if you want something done right, do it yourself"
What if you're retarded?

Kidding, Barm, just kidding...
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What if you're retarded? Kidding, Barm, just kidding...
Joe: Peter, I'm not retarded. I'm handicapped.

Peter: Well now you're just splitting hairs.
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Joe: Peter, I'm not retarded. I'm handicapped.

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Haha...of course you know I meant no offense...
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It's all good bro.
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This reminds me of a time before I had my Jeep took it into one of those places and they had a rather attractive blonde doing the interior vacuuming and the tire pressure. Well she was bent over vacuuming my car and the tech in the other bay was attempting to pour oil back into his car. Well his attention was completely fixed on her posterior and he wasn't even close to the funnel, pouring it all over the engine and then shouting from under the bay indicated the tech under there was getting an oil shower. I busted out laughing and the manager asked me what was so funny. After I told him he shook his head and said he was going to have to move her inside cuz none of them can function worth a crap with her out there.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:12 PM   #17
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I let our dealer service department change the oil/filter on our Jeep for one reason: It is totally free 4x per year, not even a "miscellaneous shop supplies" surcharge.
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I used an oil change place locally, not a big chain but it was tied to a local truck stop, and while watching them change the oil on my wife's car, I saw the top guy place a filter in front of the tire, the bottom guy ignored it and drained the oil. After a period of time the bottom guy called for a fill and the top guy grabbed the filter and put it back in inventory. While I was watching this I called the cops and told them what I saw. The reporting officer claimed it was not an issue he could act on, but in the mean time the press arrived and I voiced my concerns to them..
Wow so you called the cops and the press on a minimum wage mechanic cause he screwed up. Man I would hate to be your mechanic/barber/lawn mower guy, etc.. Talk about over reacting.

With this mentality I should call the cops every time McD's screws up on my order in the drive through. Curse them.. Every Single Time..

Why didn't you just let someone at the shop know they neglected to put a new filter in. Would have saved a whole bunch of time and heart ache..
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Sounds like they were scamming the public to me and yes the cops/press/whoever could make it right should have been called. If it would have been an honest mistake and not an intentional scam then the top bay tech would have pointed out the mistake and made sure the filter was replaced. The service technicians have no incentive to not replace the filter. Management that tracks the number of oil changes they perform along with how many filters they have to order to replenish inventory have the incentive of higher profit margins if they don't have to order more filters.
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Sounds like they were scamming the public to me and yes the cops/press/whoever could make it right should have been called. If it would have been an honest mistake and not an intentional scam then the top bay tech would have pointed out the mistake and made sure the filter was replaced.
No I totally agree, I should have called the cops numerous times when McD's has Scammed me out of my Cheeseburger. Instead I went in and talked to someone like a civilized adult and had the problem resolved without issue. I think in the future though I will just avoid that hassle, and just call the cops and have them arrest the drive through person cause they scammed me out of a cheeseburger.. Better yet maybe I should Sue them.
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A cheeseburger not making it into your bag won't show up in inventory control. Performing 1500 oil changes a month and not ordering 1500 replacement filters will. Management already knew what was happening at the shop.

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