Cliff ran Poison Spyder into bankruptcy. The court sold off the Poison Spyder name to a couple in California. The fake press release where Cliff shakes hands with the new owners is just BS propaganda. Cliff left a lot of people holding the bag. I wish the new owners of Poison Spyder all the success in the world. I would distance myself from Cliff as much as possible. He is not trustworthy and does not pay his bills. Right now he is trying to get people to pay ahead for wheels that he doesn't have. Kind of scary judging by his past. He is trying to finance his wheel company on his customers backs. Kind of like a ponzi scheme. I hold two judgements against Clifton Slay personally. One for $8722.07 plus intrest dated May 13 2008. The second one Dated July 30th 2009 in the amount of $44,571.02 plus intrest. Consider this a waring for anyone doing business with Clifton Slay.