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Old 12-09-2007, 06:17 PM   #1
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Hey, here in Nebraska it gets real hot during the summer and can snow like no other in the winter. Right now i own a 2002 mazda protege5 hatchback with a bunch of mods, lowered etc. anyways I love the car in the summer when i get 30 mpg, but now that its winter, im really really tired of it. Anyways im starting to love jeeps because they are the perfect car for NE, take the doors and top off in the summer, and have that 4x4 in the winter. Anyways i have a couple things to ask you all...hopefully you can help me out...

1. How do jeeps do on gas??? im looking at a 02 with v6
2. Any certain things i should look for when buying?
3. Any info would be great...

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Old 12-09-2007, 06:27 PM   #2
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1: Jeeps have Inline 6 cyl not V6.... and if your worried about gas, a Wrangler might not be the vehicle for you. A stock Wrangler can get ~20mpg... and if it has larger tires and a lift, a lot less.

2: Definitely look for rust or a bent frame.

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1: Jeeps have Inline 6 cyl not V6.... and if your worried about gas, a Wrangler might not be the vehicle for you. A stock Wrangler can get ~20mpg... and if it has larger tires and a lift, a lot less.

2: Definitely look for rust or a bent frame.
well gas milage isnt a big concern. If i keep it stock 20mpg is good enough. also im a rookie on jeeps, didnt know there was a difference between v6 and inline 6? are the motors reliable??
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1. How do jeeps do on gas??? im looking at a 02 with v6
2. Any certain things i should look for when buying?
3. Any info would be great...

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Hi Brandon, welcome!

To answer your questions:
1. Jeeps are not all that good on gas 15-18mpg, and an 02 would have in I6 not a V6 (thats on the 07 and 08)
2. The main things I look for on used jeeps are the same you would for any car with one addition, I tend to stay away from heavily modified jeeps, and actually prefer bone stock which usually means it has seen little if any off road abuse. There are also a lot of modified ones out there that were not done right if you know what I mean

3. Don't buy the first rig you see, take your time and shop around.

4. Don't be afraid to ask more questions here, there are lots of folks with lots of accumulated knowlege here
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Ya dude, going from 30mpg to a Wrangler is going to be a shock. A I6 X/Sport might get close to 20, but I would bet 18 if your coming from a modified import since youll be hitting the gas pretty hard looking for power that isn't there. A modified Wrangler with new gears, or a Rubicon, is going to get lower. If your looking at a Wrangler, figure your going to get half the gas mileage you get now, and then you wont be as shocked. Wranglers are great all weather vehicles, but they deffinatly hurt the wallet with mods and gas.

Might want to consider a Dual Top wrangler. Nothing beats the convenience and flexibility in summer than a Soft top, but a Hard top is a GOD SEND in winter

EDIT: just saw your post. The inline 6cyl, 4.0, has been around since the 70s I believe. Very torquey motor and extremely reliable. I broke EVERYTHING on my old 97, but the motor refused to quit. Jeeps arent known for the best transmissions, but they will last if you take care of them. You have a modified import? Dont count on keeping your Jeep stock. wont happen.. sorry bud. In fact, your gonna dump every dime into it. Just Empty Every Pocket. Also, like I said, count more on 15-18 than 20. Some people get 20s, but its not that common, and has a lot to do with the lack of HP and throttle useage. Inline 6 and V6 is just like it sounds. An line 6, the cylinders are all in a straight line, and a V6 has 3 pistons on each side, creating a V. Inline 6s produce low HP, but VERY high torque. A Jeep wont beat a civic off a stop light, but it will climb up a house if you ask it to . Deffinately stay away from modified Jeeps if can, they are usually beat on. Look at the skids for offroad damage, look at the steering box under the front bumper, look for rust and frame damage. If your getting a soft top, look closely at the windows. Scratched up windows suck, and they are expensive.
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:33 PM   #6
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thanks..keep the help coming! i really want to buy a stock one, but i hate doing all the mods on my own. in a way though, a stock jeep has less chance of being beat up before i get to it so thats always a plus. the 02 im looking at is lifted with 32's and 88k miles. I think i might try and find something stocker!!! haha
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Ya dude, going from 30mpg to a Wrangler is going to be a shock. A I6 X/Sport might get close to 20, but I would bet 18 if your coming from a modified import since youll be hitting the gas pretty hard looking for power that isn't there. A modified Wrangler with new gears, or a Rubicon, is going to get lower. If your looking at a Wrangler, figure your going to get half the gas mileage you get now, and then you wont be as shocked. Wranglers are great all weather vehicles, but they deffinatly hurt the wallet with mods and gas.

Might want to consider a Dual Top wrangler. Nothing beats the convenience and flexibility in summer than a Soft top, but a Hard top is a GOD SEND in winter
My neihbor use to have a hard top, and had 3 people lift the top off which wasent bad, but now he has a newer jeep with a soft top which he says sucks to take off compared to the hard top.
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Yeah, I'd be looking for a stocker w/ both tops and the 6 speed manual, or at least go 03 or newer for the 4 speed auto, it'll help some with the mileage..
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:47 PM   #9
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i just pulled the carfax of the 02 im looking at...looks great. no problems. how does this deal sound....02 Wrangler Sport...88k miles....10k pricetag???

does have 3inch lift and 32's?
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depending on the gears that it has and transmission you'd be looking at ~15mpg. But $10k doesn't seem too bad on price.
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Do intake help much on gas milage with jeeps?? are there any mods that do??
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Not much, but if you are thinking about having both tops, keep looking, it'll be out there!
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Do intake help much on gas milage with jeeps?? are there any mods that do??
Very little to none. The only reason to get an intake kit would be because you got custom fenders that wouldn't allow you to reuse your stock air box.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:30 PM   #15
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what do you guys think about the jeep posted in the link provided??
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:56 PM   #16
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Looks pretty good. Like I tell everyone else looking for a new ride.... an investment in an hour of a good mechanic's time is the best money you will spend on your heep. Don't buy someone else's problem.
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i just sold my heavily modified import for a jeep too and ive never even driven one!
gonna be a shock!
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i just sold my heavily modified import for a jeep too and ive never even driven one!
gonna be a shock!
if my insurance wouldent be so high, i would be getting a WRX. AWD!!!!
i actually know the owner of a local suby dealer too, so i could get a great deal, but insurace for me is outragous! oh well. i want to sit high in a jeep and cruise in the summer with the doors and top off!!

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Looks pretty good. Like I tell everyone else looking for a new ride.... an investment in an hour of a good mechanic's time is the best money you will spend on your heep. Don't buy someone else's problem.
First off i gotta see if they can get me approved for a loan and take my car as a trade without losing too much on the trade. if they can get me approved with the same amount car payments. im deffinitly going to test drive it more then once, have it checked out 100%, and make sure they do a full detail etc.

now i gotta start looking for mods. want a sound bar or some kind of upgraded system, have $1500 in my car which i love to death. other then that, i like it the way it looks so it might not change much. oh yea i want a light rack on top?
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Test drive it, then crawl under it, check all the steel for deep scratch marks, usually indicates it was off roaded. It's lifted, get behind it and see if the axles are centered, if the lift was done right it got new trackbar in front and relocation or new track bar in the rear, if you lift a jeep the axle moves to one side, trackbars re center the axles.
Look at the sway bar, look for disconnects on the 10" long 'pins' that connect the sway bar to the axle. If it's a manual drive it and feel the gears, take it off the paved road onto dirt and see if the 4 wheel drive works, put it in 4hi then put it in 4lo.
If you can get full doors and hard top first, full doors and soft top second. You can always find a hard top and add it to the full doors, putting together a soft top from scratch can be a minor PIA. The soft top consists of surrounds that attach to the roll bar sides, brackets for the soft top frame, a bar across the back window and brackets to hold that bar, it keeps the bottom of the rear window sealed.
If you can find a local jeep club and hang out there for a while.
While you are underneath look between the engine and transmission, look for oil, could be a leaky rear main seal. Look at the coolant, see if it's rusty, pop the oil filler cap and see if the cap has rusty brown sludge on it and take a flashlight and look into the valve cover to see how much if any sludge is in there.
I picked up a 97 a couple of years ago that had broken sway bar pin that I spotted right off on my visual and I knew if I made left turns it would get really really bad sounding noisy, so I did a bunch of left turns and they dropped the price $1000 I replaced them both with JKS quicker disconnects the next day after I got it home.
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Test drive it, then crawl under it, check all the steel for deep scratch marks, usually indicates it was off roaded. It's lifted, get behind it and see if the axles are centered, if the lift was done right it got new trackbar in front and relocation or new track bar in the rear, if you lift a jeep the axle moves to one side, trackbars re center the axles.
Look at the sway bar, look for disconnects on the 10" long 'pins' that connect the sway bar to the axle. If it's a manual drive it and feel the gears, take it off the paved road onto dirt and see if the 4 wheel drive works, put it in 4hi then put it in 4lo.
If you can get full doors and hard top first, full doors and soft top second. You can always find a hard top and add it to the full doors, putting together a soft top from scratch can be a minor PIA. The soft top consists of surrounds that attach to the roll bar sides, brackets for the soft top frame, a bar across the back window and brackets to hold that bar, it keeps the bottom of the rear window sealed.
If you can find a local jeep club and hang out there for a while.
While you are underneath look between the engine and transmission, look for oil, could be a leaky rear main seal. Look at the coolant, see if it's rusty, pop the oil filler cap and see if the cap has rusty brown sludge on it and take a flashlight and look into the valve cover to see how much if any sludge is in there.
I picked up a 97 a couple of years ago that had broken sway bar pin that I spotted right off on my visual and I knew if I made left turns it would get really really bad sounding noisy, so I did a bunch of left turns and they dropped the price $1000 I replaced them both with JKS quicker disconnects the next day after I got it home.

Wow, your the man!!! im going to print this post out and when i go look at it. im going to check all of the above!!! thanks again everybody...any more info is still appreciated.

another question? whats the avg any of you are paying for full coverage insurance??? or a general idea? are jeeps bad for insurance??

Im 21 and a man, so you know how that goes.
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Not really sure, I pay about $2500 for 4 jeeps myself, two TJ's, 1 XJ and 1 ZJ.
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500 a month for full coverage and gap insurance on a Rubicon, but I am also on the state automotive insurance company. It would drop in half if I was on a regular private company.

seems like a nice Jeep, just check the rear axle and see which one it is. 32s are too big, but its still deffinatly a lot nicer to have the dana 44 rear end, than the toothpick 35. The dana 44 will have a steel drain plug, and the 35 will be a rubber plug.
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Not really sure, I pay about $2500 for 4 jeeps myself, two TJ's, 1 XJ and 1 ZJ.
You do know what question is coming next, right?
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You do know what question is coming next, right?
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