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Old 05-01-2011, 11:18 AM   #1
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Well I will be going up to NAU next year for college (Mechanical Engineering). Just some background info...I race motocross and have always loved engines, offroading, having fun with motorized vehicles! I currently own a 2007 F150 XL..here are some pics...


(without the leveling kit)

However, it is 2WD (always been a big dissapointment for me), and has a V6 (which for a heavy f150 is slow as dirt). I love my truck, but next year I will be encountering a lot of snow, and will be doing a fair amount of offroading as well as hauling my dirtbike around (I would get a hitch mount for it that I can roll the bike up on perpendicular to the jeep). The big factor for me is...automatic or manual. I am highly leaning towards the manual, as I love manual (it is so much fun and way more interesting). If I wasn't going to be going on trails I would get a little Subaru WRX STI.

I will most likely be getting a used 04-09 (it would be in EXCELLENT condition, just like we bought my F150). Budget is probably about 18,000. Anyways...if you guys have any input on the transmission, any recommendations, etc let me know. Sorry for the long post. Thanks!

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Old 05-01-2011, 10:32 PM   #2
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maybe I am posting in the wrong sections, but I can't seem to get any responses on any of the forums?

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Old 05-02-2011, 03:34 AM   #3
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im getting a jeep wrangler 2 door this fall. i cant wait. been wanting a jeep since the new models came out last year.. wowowoowowwo the fall better hurry up. and this year the 2012's will have a new better engine.
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Still looking for some feedback on my main question...manual or automatic? Personally, I would really like a manual
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:26 PM   #5
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I say manual. If you can drive a manual, you'll want a manual. I have a manual and wouldn't do it any other way unless I had an injury or some such thing that precluded me from driving a manual.

But, maybe take a look at these threads and see if they cover most of your questions . . . .

1. Auto vs Manual
2. automatic vs. manual
3. Manual or Automatic...??
4. auto or mannual
5. Automatic or manual
6. automatic vs standard
7. Auto or Manual which one do you prefer?
8. Manual Vs Automatic
9. Automatic vs Manual Transmission
10. Manual or Automatic
11. transmission preference
12. Automatic or Manual
13. 6 speed manual vs. 4 speed auto
14. Sold the jeep manual or auto?
15. Manual vs Automatic
16. STD vs AUTO
17. Transmission question... Basically 5spd VS. Auto
18. Auto vs Stick
19. Manual vs Automatic for Rock crawling??
20. 6 speed vs auto?
21. auto or manual?
22. Stick or auto
23. Auto vs Manual
24. Manual or auto
25. 6 speed manual or 4 speed auto

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I say manual. If you can drive a manual, you'll want a manual. I have a manual and wouldn't do it any other way unless I had an injury or some such thing that precluded me from driving a manual.

But, maybe take a look at these threads and see if they cover most of your questions . . . .

1. Auto vs Manual
2. automatic vs. manual
3. Manual or Automatic...??
4. auto or mannual
5. Automatic or manual
6. automatic vs standard
7. Auto or Manual which one do you prefer?
8. Manual Vs Automatic
9. Automatic vs Manual Transmission
10. Manual or Automatic
11. transmission preference
12. Automatic or Manual
13. 6 speed manual vs. 4 speed auto
14. Sold the jeep manual or auto?
15. Manual vs Automatic
16. STD vs AUTO
17. Transmission question... Basically 5spd VS. Auto
18. Auto vs Stick
19. Manual vs Automatic for Rock crawling??
20. 6 speed vs auto?
21. auto or manual?
22. Stick or auto
23. Auto vs Manual
24. Manual or auto
25. 6 speed manual or 4 speed auto

thanks a lot!!
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:19 PM   #7
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What years have these features?? HSA and anti-stall??
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What years have these features?? HSA and anti-stall??
Hill Start Assist has been standard since 2009. It might have been available as an option before that. The anti-stall has always been there.
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Hill Start Assist has been standard since 2009. It might have been available as an option before that. The anti-stall has always been there.
dam =( well maybe a manual wont be good then since I can't afford an 09+...to be honest no manual = no jeep for me though
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dam =( well maybe a manual wont be good then since I can't afford an 09+...to be honest no manual = no jeep for me though
Is HSA a deal breaker? It's nice and all, but a lot of folks turn it off. Some people absolutely hate it.
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Is HSA a deal breaker? It's nice and all, but a lot of folks turn it off. Some people absolutely hate it.
ohh, i haven't read up on it much, just heard some people talk about it, if its one of those things that necessary to climb a hill in a manual then it seems like it'd be something I need, if not then no its not a deal breaker at all
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ohh, i haven't read up on it much, just heard some people talk about it, if its one of those things that necessary to climb a hill in a manual then it seems like it'd be something I need, if not then no its not a deal breaker at all
No no. All it does is sense whether you're stopped on a hill, and, if so, keep holding the brakes for a few seconds after you release the brake. It therefore "solves" the age old "rollback" problem that happens when you're trying to take off from a stop with a manual transmission on a hill. Hence, hill . . . start . . . assist. Totally unrelated to offroading or performance.
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No no. All it does is sense whether you're stopped on a hill, and, if so, keep holding the brakes for a few seconds after you release the brake. It therefore "solves" the age old "rollback" problem that happens when you're trying to take off from a stop with a manual transmission on a hill. Hence, hill . . . start . . . assist. Totally unrelated to offroading or performance.
hmm, well i guess i could see where that could come in handy, is it still fairly easy to climb hills with a good stick driver?
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hmm, well i guess i could see where that could come in handy, is it still fairly easy to climb hills with a good stick driver?
In 4lo, absolutely! Most of the time you never even have to touch the gas! Just release the clutch.
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hmm, well i guess i could see where that could come in handy, is it still fairly easy to climb hills with a good stick driver?
To be clear--it doesn't help you climb hills. When you're moving, it is entirely inoperative.

The HSA only kicks on when you come to a stop, facing uphill, and then take your foot off the brake to get going again. It stops you from doing that little "rollback" that manual transmission vehicles do when gravity works against them while they work the clutch/gas. It then goes back to being completely inoperative. This annoys some folks because if you're quick with the clutch/gas you may have to pull against the brakes for a moment before they release to get going.

I suppose in theory HSA could be helpful if you were creeping up some steep offroad climb, pause for a moment, and then had to get going again. It might also be handy if you were towing a heavy trailer, stopped at an uphill facing stop light, and then had to get going again. But in my time on this forum, I've never heard such a story mentioned. And for that matter, you could always just use the parking brake for those situations. Manual transmission vehicles have been encountering those scenarios for decades without problems.

It's neat, but it's no big deal believe me. Let's put it this way, if you offered me $100 in exchange for turning off my HSA forever, I'd take the $100. The anti-stall is cooler.
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thanks a lot for the replies guys! I'm really looking forward to hopefully getting a manual jeep in the next six months

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